FAI Junior Cup 2011/12 [Archive] - Page 11

Aldo

06/12/2011, 7:49 PM

Depends what he was sent off for? there is a chance the red card could have been rescinded by the referee after the game. Especially since it was at local level. If Tralee played him illegally it will cost them the game. I cannot see how a manager or secretary would take a chance on playing him.
Tralee Dynamos keeper was sent off in previous round for a head butt on a Spa Road player. It was a straight red and not a second yellow. Tralee then played a league game a week later with out the keeper thinking he was suspended for that match and not for the next round of the FAI Junior cup against Shannonside. The keeper played in this game and as a result of an objection by Shannonside , Tralee have been thrown out of the competition and rightly so. A club who claim to be big should know the correct rules and if they don't then they should off made sure by asking someone .

realcelt

06/12/2011, 8:07 PM

Tralee Dynamos keeper was sent off in previous round for a head butt on a Spa Road player. It was a straight red and not a second yellow. Tralee then played a league game a week later with out the keeper thinking he was suspended for that match and not for the next round of the FAI Junior cup against Shannonside. The keeper played in this game and as a result of an objection by Shannonside , Tralee have been thrown out of the competition and rightly so. A club who claim to be big should know the correct rules and if they don't then they should off made sure by asking someone .
What do u mean by a club WHO CLAIM TO BE BIG should know the correct rules...It sounds as if you are a bit happy Dynamos have been thrown out.Tralee Dynamos are a big club.And from what I was told it was a genuine mistake from them.They did not need to play their keeper if they knew he was suspended as they have a further 2 guys who would slot right in.Its a costly mistake by them but life goes on!

buddygeary23

06/12/2011, 8:48 PM

So are shannonside now home to sherriff yc in the 5th round since tralee were thrown out?? Heard also that is was a member of a team in kerry that tipped off shannonside about the sending off

The Ref

06/12/2011, 9:15 PM

RULE 78. MISCONDUCT BY PLAYERS
1. Including the automatic suspension incurred, the overall suspension imposed on any player receiving a direct red card shall be for:
a) at least one match for denying the opposing team a clear goal-scoring opportunity (particularly by
deliberately handling the ball);
b) at least one match for unsporting conduct.
c) at least two matches for serious foul play (particularly in the case of the use of excessive or brute force);
d) at least three matches for assaulting (deliberately pushing, pulling, striking, butting, elbowing, punching, kicking etc. Touching is not an assault) an opponent or a person other than a match official;
e) at least six matches for assaulting by spitting at an opponent or a person other than a match official.
f) at least 12 months for assaulting (deliberately pushing, pulling, spitting, striking, butting, elbowing, punching, kicking etc. Touching is not an assault) a match official.

realcelt

06/12/2011, 9:37 PM

So are shannonside now home to sherriff yc in the 5th round since tralee were thrown out?? Heard also that is was a member of a team in kerry that tipped off shannonside about the sending off
Not too sure wat happens now.Either Shannonside get to play Sherriff or else Sherriff get a bye in the 5th round I think.There would b a lot of people willing to tip someone off if it meant it was going to have a bad affect on Dynamos.An awful lot of jealousy and bitterness in the league cause Dynamos are successful.

buddygeary23

06/12/2011, 10:29 PM

Probably but not successful on this occasion

nononsense

06/12/2011, 10:44 PM

do Shannonside get to play Sherriff so??
If Tralee have been thrown out (and it looks like they have been) then, yes, Shannonside should be at home draw against Sherriff.

Second

06/12/2011, 11:23 PM

As far as I know.. Shannonside can't be put back in as the draw would then be null and void.. Stupid I know but I think that's the rules.. Sherriff will just get a bye..

nononsense

07/12/2011, 9:51 AM

As far as I know.. Shannonside can't be put back in as the draw would then be null and void.. Stupid I know but I think that's the rules.. Sherriff will just get a bye..
On what do you base that conclusion?

realcelt

07/12/2011, 10:18 AM

Probably but not successful on this occasion
I dont think they were trying to gain anything by playing a suspended player,they didnt need to!

realcelt

07/12/2011, 10:19 AM

On what do you base that conclusion?
I have also heard that Sherriff will get a bye as the draw has already been made and shannonside were knocked out already!

Longshanks

07/12/2011, 11:34 AM

I have also heard that Sherriff will get a bye as the draw has already been made and shannonside were knocked out already!

if thats the case then why lodge an appeal? I mean if you aint gonna benefit from lodging an appeal why do it, unless you are out to get the team who beat you?

realcelt

07/12/2011, 12:31 PM

if thats the case then why lodge an appeal? I mean if you aint gonna benefit from lodging an appeal why do it, unless you are out to get the team who beat you?
I know.It doesnt make any sense really!

KnowItAll

07/12/2011, 12:57 PM

Shannonside FC V Sheriff YC this Sunday kick off at 2. So obviously if a club, beaten in a competiton appeal a decision before the next round is played, the beaten team replace the offending team. easy really. it only gets complicated if the next round has been played. Remember it happened to pike 2 years ago. they had got to something like the quarter finals before they were kicked out after an appeal from a team they haad beaten 2 or 3 rounds before, if memory serves me correct, the team they were supposed to play got a bye, maybe someone from pike might comfirm

ponyobrien

07/12/2011, 1:10 PM

As far as I know.. Shannonside can't be put back in as the draw would then be null and void.. Stupid I know but I think that's the rules.. Sherriff will just get a bye..

St.Michaels were beaten by Pike Rovers 2 years ago but were reinstated to the competition after Pike were thrown out on appeal. Again it was for an illegal player, so surely the same rules would apply for all clubs.

soccer8

07/12/2011, 1:22 PM

St.Michaels were beaten by Pike Rovers 2 years ago but were reinstated to the competition after Pike were thrown out on appeal. Again it was for an illegal player, so surely the same rules would apply for all clubs.

Can someone shed some light here surely if Tralee Dynamoes played an illegal player in the game against Shannonside....Shannonside will be awarded the tie????

Longshanks

07/12/2011, 3:30 PM

St.Michaels were beaten by Pike Rovers 2 years ago but were reinstated to the competition after Pike were thrown out on appeal. Again it was for an illegal player, so surely the same rules would apply for all clubs.

I was hoping the Pike/St Micheals wouldnt affair wouldnt be brought up again....dont want to go through that again....and if it is to be discussed can it be done with a level of maturity with no name calling?!!?!?

Round Tower

07/12/2011, 5:13 PM

St.Michaels were beaten by Pike Rovers 2 years ago but were reinstated to the competition after Pike were thrown out on appeal. Again it was for an illegal player, so surely the same rules would apply for all clubs.

In this years FAI senior cup, was Sherrif not thrown out for playing an illegal player after they beat Shellbourne, and Shellbourne was re-instated so i expect the same rules would apply to the Junior cup.

brownetube

08/12/2011, 3:53 AM

shannonside have already been reinstated, i know the sheriff team well and they had a hotel for sat night booked in tralee and they've now cancelled it and hav made alternative plans to travel to limerick. as faras i know tralee dinamos hav been advised by the fai not to appeal as this case is very "black and white" and they would not have a hope. on another note the secretary or management or who ever checks these thing at tralee dinamos out should hang there head in shame, how could they not no the player is suspended for the next round its obvious its a national cup so why on earth would he miss a league match.. id say shannonside cant believe there luck!

whynot?

08/12/2011, 2:38 PM

When is the FAI 6th Round draw held? The 5th Round was out before the 4th round was played!

theboywonder8

08/12/2011, 9:02 PM

They player in question was legal on the day pike played st michaels,but he was illegal in the area stages,st michaels were reinstated after like beat them,not the other team who he played against in previous round,it's a long story and as longshanks said,enough said about it,water under the bridge,surprised to hear the fai told Tralee not to object,they would normally grab the cash.sherrif will take a lot of beating this year,

ponyobrien

09/12/2011, 6:03 AM

They player in question was legal on the day pike played st michaels,but he was illegal in the area stages,st michaels were reinstated after like beat them,not the other team who he played against in previous round

That can't be right. Surely St. Michaels must have had a grievance from their tie. I don't see how they could appeal otherwise.

the truth

09/12/2011, 8:47 AM

Specifically for the benefit of boy wonder; the facts are that the player in question was illegal on the day as it was not a year and a day since he played his last professional game. although it was exactly a year and a day since he played his last LOI game the arbiter ruled that as he had not been reinstated to junior status he was still a professional player. if this explanation is not clear to the boy wonder I suggest he contact the Pike sec for a reading of the findings!!!!!!!!!!!

theboywonder8

09/12/2011, 10:23 AM

Oh it's clear alright,as I said not going there,now move on,it's done,could be a lot of teams will lose home advantage the weekend with the weather that's around the country.

Longshanks

09/12/2011, 11:15 AM

I see Ballina Town are playing in Tramore at 12 noon?

Longshanks

09/12/2011, 11:21 AM

nononsense

09/12/2011, 1:12 PM

Athenry v Fairview looks the tie of the round to me.

Athenry have won the connacht cup 4 out of the last 5 years and Fairview were FAI winners 2010. can anyone else highlight some potential tasty ties?
Longshanks, you have your Fairview mixed up. This is not Fairview Rangers from Limerick, the 2010 winners. They were knocked out in a previous round. I think this Fairview is from Cork.

theboywonder8

09/12/2011, 1:18 PM

It's deco not the fai record holders,

balls

09/12/2011, 1:32 PM

saint michaels away to landen utd in dublin should be a tasty game. Landen are meant to be going very well this season so huge test for saints on the road. Pike balla the all limerick 5th round tie should be a decent game also

Longshanks

09/12/2011, 1:59 PM

@nononsense & Boywonder

ooops

el nino coro

09/12/2011, 2:45 PM

Longshanks, you have your Fairview mixed up. This is not Fairview Rangers from Limerick, the 2010 winners. They were knocked out in a previous round. I think this Fairview is from Cork.

Yes indeed it is fairview from cork and athenry will win that game comfortable as fairview are no where near the top teams in cork!

xpskid

09/12/2011, 4:15 PM

Moyross v Kinsale : Game switched from Moyross to Shelbourne Park. Sat.2pm.

qwertyui

09/12/2011, 6:16 PM

What's Shelbourne Park Like?

Nunugget

09/12/2011, 6:26 PM

Anybody have any insight on Castlebar Celtic players to watch or the likes?

theboywonder8

09/12/2011, 6:53 PM

Not 2 bad,it's level anyway.

buddygeary23

10/12/2011, 9:29 AM

Anyone got any info on castlebar Celtic? Playing them tomorrow.

ponyobrien

10/12/2011, 9:35 AM

Anyone got any info on castlebar Celtic? Playing them tomorrow.

Have a read through their thread http://foot.ie/threads/150618-Castlebar-Celtic-FC/page12, you might find something of interest there.

thomas72

10/12/2011, 5:19 PM

Moyross 1 kinsale 1
Kinsale won on pens.

WOrst team iv ever seen from cork and iv seen some bad ones zero football players had time on the ball and they just hoofed it anywhere mostly out to touch moyRoss a 3rd division team passed them off the field says It all. MOyross were poor first half but 2nd half and extra time kinsale barely made it out of there owe half.

rightboy

10/12/2011, 8:01 PM

Hightackle can you explain your post as I was lead to believe the home league make the fixture as far as I know saints had a full training session today and were ready to play bit it would be interesting to hear your conspiracy theory !

republican

10/12/2011, 8:06 PM

bansha celtic (tsdl) v knockavilla (cork) is also not on until next weekend and dont worry hightackle saints wont have to buy an fai like some others :)

rightboy

10/12/2011, 8:17 PM

Hightackle u need to get out a bit more and don't be so bitter but at least when you make a post a least try and back it up silly stuff really !

rightboy

10/12/2011, 8:27 PM

balls

10/12/2011, 10:02 PM

As I said hightackle you need to explain as far as I'm aware the fai make the draw/ date and local league make the fixture who have landen signed from loi as I believe they have a lot if ex cherry orchard lads playing for them now so I hope it's not news of the world stuff make it up as you go along

It was on the front page of target in the star during the week that robert bayly ex shamrock rovers and bohs center mid has signed with landen in the league of ireland off season. Dont know if he eligible to play fai junior but if he is will take some stopping. good central midfielder,very fit, scores goals and only 23

nononsense

10/12/2011, 10:03 PM

How did st micheals get the fai cup v landen utd off this weekend this is gone passed a joke.the fai council sound just give them a fai cup and it can go back to a level playing pitch
If you were aware of the rules of the competition you would understand.

nononsense

10/12/2011, 10:05 PM

bansha celtic (tsdl) v knockavilla (cork) is also not on until next weekend and dont worry hightackle saints wont have to buy an fai like some others :)
Bansha v Knockavilla was called off because of a protest. Bansha now play Coachford on Sunday 18th.

republican

10/12/2011, 10:35 PM

txs nononsesse i never knew there was an appeal was just going by next weeks fixtures on tsdl website txs for clearing that 1 up for me. hightackle you made an ape of yourself again hahaha go asleep now for a few weeks :)

Jofspring

10/12/2011, 11:09 PM

It was on the front page of target in the star during the week that robert bayly ex shamrock rovers and bohs center mid has signed with landen in the league of ireland off season. Dont know if he eligible to play fai junior but if he is will take some stopping. good central midfielder,very fit, scores goals and only 23

He would be a savage player for any junior team. Is it worth only having a player for a few months though if he is only oing to leave soon after.

theboywonder8

11/12/2011, 10:18 AM

Of course it is,why wouldn't it be,isint that what yellow is doing at the boro sure,????

theboywonder8

11/12/2011, 10:25 AM

High tackle you're some man for one man,haha,and I wouldn't take any notice if I was you of fairkop,he is only a coward hiding as usual,with he's snakey remarks,by the way surely the ot team will win it this year will they?????