Barstoolers Love-In

[Straightstory]

Dion Fanning at it now in the Sunday Independent. Dreadful article

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/withdrawal-symptoms-kick-in-but-at-least-we-have-jim-white-2672635.html

In his defence, he lives in London. However, he's only got that job because his Daddy is editor of the paper. As far as I know, he's never written anything about the League of Ireland or or ever been to a club game here.

[Rasputin]

One guy actually has to get a bus if he wants to go to a game:shock:
If he goes to Shams games maybe Mypost could give him a lift in the flying saucer?

[TiocfaidhArmani]

Easily humankind's finest creations...

I can't believe he used the word Shels in vain like that.
You can't be a fan of Shelbourne.


You're telling me I'm not a Shels fans? Just as I made the arsey comment about the cost of my season ticket at Celtic to someone who called me a bar stooler without knowing me, do you know me enough to make that claim? I've went to my first game at the RDS against Rovers when Ray Treacy was their manager and I've been going whenever I can ever since. I played in the fans v legends games last summer at Tolka, perhaps you played in it as well, I was the sexy left back that day ;)

See what I mean though, LOI fans just throw insults and have this holier-than-thou I'm-a-better-football-fan-than-you attitude to anyone who doesn't subscribe to the undiluted doctrine of hate Celtic and the GAA. Sheer moronic ignorance and the attitude that most ordinary people despise and apart of the reason why so few people join your little sect.

[Macy]

Dion Fanning at it now in the Sunday Independent. Dreadful article

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/withdrawal-symptoms-kick-in-but-at-least-we-have-jim-white-2672635.html
What position is he with the paper? I thought he was one of their main English football men? Even I knew Sammy Mc was their manager ffs.

[Brusher]

.....and slightly off topic....what a pure west brit newspaper (apologies any Anglo cousins). Believing naievly when I bought the Sunday Indo that surely there will be some sort of LoI coverage, I find a large write up on the state of the USA Rugby team !! I won't go on....!

[mypost]

Yeah, I don't watch from a bar stool, I watch from the footballing theatre that is Celtic Park :)

I didn't know you're not allowed support any other team/sport if you support a LOI team. What a sad little life you have. I pity you and the other fundamentalists, what sad little people. :)

What pis's people off about your post is how you declare how much you paid for your season ticket, and belittling those who didn't pay it.

There's nothing wrong with supporting a foreign club, I support 8 of them including Celtic. But I haven't been to Celtic Park in 25 years and I've no great desire to start going. Nor have I 650 Euro to splash out on watching a 2 team league every year. Frankly, there's better value and contests in the LOI for half the price.

As for the football "theatre" you speak of, it resembles a theatre for 2 games a year, at some ungodly police-driven hour. The rest of the time, it's barely half-full, as average Celtic fans haven't got 650 quid to watch bi-weekly training sessions against the teams I've already stated. If you have, good luck to you.

As a Celtic fan, I hope they win the league, but if they don't, I'm not exactly devastated. I know because of the league set-up, they'll win it again soon enough. In the LOI, refs are not attacked for getting decisions wrong and players are not attacked in the street for playing in the "wrong" jumper, fans don't sing about 300-year old history, while coach's don't get death threats in the post. There are more peaceful ways of enjoying football.

[nigel-harps1954]

You're telling me I'm not a Shels fans? Just as I made the arsey comment about the cost of my season ticket at Celtic to someone who called me a bar stooler without knowing me, do you know me enough to make that claim? I've went to my first game at the RDS against Rovers when Ray Treacy was their manager and I've been going whenever I can ever since. I played in the fans v legends games last summer at Tolka, perhaps you played in it as well, I was the sexy left back that day ;)

See what I mean though, LOI fans just throw insults and have this holier-than-thou I'm-a-better-football-fan-than-you attitude to anyone who doesn't subscribe to the undiluted doctrine of hate Celtic and the GAA. Sheer moronic ignorance and the attitude that most ordinary people despise and apart of the reason why so few people join your little sect.

So tell me, why is it alright for EPL, SPL followers and Barcelona, Real, AC, whatever fans in Ireland, to be allowed to criticise the LOI, put down every club in the league as sh**e, terrible football, etc, but it's not alright for fans of the teams in this league to be a little patriotic about their own clubs, and league and put down the so called die-hard Irish fans who have this opinion on the league without even giving it a chance.

[peadar1987]

I think the most important thing is to get rid of the view on both sides of the debate that you can't follow a LOI club and a foreign one. It's perfectly natural to be interested in the top players in the world, and to want to watch them do their thing. However, the LOI needs to show people that it is a completely different product, that offers things you just can't get following a foreign side. Whether there is any practical way of doing this is another question.

[born2bwild]

Dion Fanning at it now in the Sunday Independent. Dreadful article

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/withdrawal-symptoms-kick-in-but-at-least-we-have-jim-white-2672635.html

I emailed him about the article and suggested that he should offer the LOI as the 'cure' to withdrawal symptoms.

Lo and blah blah blah...he emailed me back....

"Thanks for your email which contained many valid points.
I live in England, write about international, English and European football and in this context wrote a piece about the end of those seasons and the effect this has on me.
I will try your suggested cure and I take on board your case about the LOI.

Thanks,

Dion"

Attendances will be going through the roof.

[bennocelt]

I emailed him about the article and suggested that he should offer the LOI as the 'cure' to withdrawal symptoms.

Lo and blah blah blah...he emailed me back....

"Thanks for your email which contained many valid points.
I live in England, write about international, English and European football and in this context wrote a piece about the end of those seasons and the effect this has on me.
I will try your suggested cure and I take on board your case about the LOI.

Thanks,

Dion"

Attendances will be going through the roof.

I emailed him too but |I didnt get an email back from him, but i did call him a vanker, funny that,lol!
Thats fine for him but his audience live in Ireland!

[razor]

Mackey had a slight dig in his article this morning.

not half enough though (http://www.examiner.ie/sport/columnists/liam-mackey/close-but-no-cigar-158264.html)



‘Rangers Host Hearts In SPL Opener!’

‘Dons Begin Against Bristol Rovers!’

And, oh be still my beating heart…

‘Stevenage Face Exeter First!’

Yes, just some of the stand-out headlines there from the new season fixture list — or the fix-list, for short, as they say in Italy.

That would be the new season across the water, of course, our own domestic game continuing merrily on its way through the summer months, not that anything like enough Irish football fans care to pay a whole heap of attention.

[mypost]

I emailed him about the article and suggested that he should offer the LOI as the 'cure' to withdrawal symptoms.

Lo and blah blah blah...he emailed me back....

"Thanks for your email which contained many valid points.
I live in England, write about international, English and European football and in this context wrote a piece about the end of those seasons and the effect this has on me.

Thanks,

Dion"

The international "season" ends for us at the end of the EC Qualifying campaign. That won't be until October or November.

[PartySaint]

Does it not end in June? Then the friendly is August not mark the start of a new 'Season'??

[Réiteoir]

Does it not end in June? Then the friendly is August not mark the start of a new 'Season'??

Yep. FA rules state that no football may be played domestically in England during July as that's designated as the "off season"

[mypost]

Does it not end in June? Then the friendly is August not mark the start of a new 'Season'??

The winter league seasons run Aug/Sep - May/June. The summer league seasons run Feb/Mar - Oct/Nov. Similiarly, the international seasons run from the beginning of the qualifying campaign until the end.

[RahenyBohs]

Just saw a bit of last Sunday's RTE's Premiership highlights programme - in front of a packed audience of Irish people wearing Premiership shirts. The audience members consistently used the term 'we' in reference to clubs like Arsenal and Man United. One Sunderland (!) fan (?) actually asked 'Do you think simulation is coming into the English game and is becoming a real problem here'.
An utterly weird and surreal experience. I'd like to see a similar experiment in the World Cup. They could all wear their England jersies.

The use of 'we' that barstoolers use in reference to English clubs makes me sick to the teeth. They have never been to a match or go week in week out to have any real emotional attachment to the club. All they have is jerseys and their sky digibox.

[marinobohs]

The use of 'we' that barstoolers use in reference to English clubs makes me sick to the teeth. They have never been to a match or go week in week out to have any real emotion attachment to the club. All they have is jerseys and their sky digibox.


Hey, RB dont forget those jesters hats :cool:

[peadar1987]

I found this looking for the Market's Field plans on Limerick's facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501850355#!/pages/Limerick-Liverpool-FC-Fan-Page/354785757861?sk=info (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501850355#%21/pages/Limerick-Liverpool-FC-Fan-Page/354785757861?sk=info)

Incredibly sad that it has three times the number of fans as Limerick's page. And that's just for one English club. There's probably one just as big for Man U, and smaller ones for Chelsea and Arsenal.

[TiocfaidhArmani]

So tell me, why is it alright for EPL, SPL followers and Barcelona, Real, AC, whatever fans in Ireland, to be allowed to criticise the LOI, put down every club in the league as sh**e, terrible football, etc, but it's not alright for fans of the teams in this league to be a little patriotic about their own clubs, and league and put down the so called die-hard Irish fans who have this opinion on the league without even giving it a chance.

There's nothing wrong with that, but there's a pre-judgement of fans who support Celtic I don't like. Now you are 100% right about people who don't support the league without giving it a go, I agree. You should always support a local team. There's no EPL on Friday evenings so why not? We would also have a half decent league is they all did support the league because more bums on seats than more money for players and better facilities. So I'm not disagreeing with you but LOI fans sometimes turn people off with their lecturing and talking down to people.

Just to clarify I'm not defending those people but as peadar said, it's important to get rid of this thing that you can't support a 'foreign' club and a LOI club also. Of course you can. It should be encouraged. You can't beat the EPL but we should encourage folk to support both. I'm perfectly comfortable supporting Shels and Celtic. Why can't others?

[TiocfaidhArmani]

As for the football "theatre" you speak of, it resembles a theatre for 2 games a year, at some ungodly police-driven hour. The rest of the time, it's barely half-full, as average Celtic fans haven't got 650 quid to watch bi-weekly training sessions against the teams I've already stated. If you have, good luck to you.


You haven't been there lately I take it since the Green Brigade have got on the scene. More's the pity. It's great.


As a Celtic fan, I hope they win the league, but if they don't, I'm not exactly devastated. I know because of the league set-up, they'll win it again soon enough. In the LOI, refs are not attacked for getting decisions wrong and players are not attacked in the street for playing in the "wrong" jumper, fans don't sing about 300-year old history, while coach's don't get death threats in the post. There are more peaceful ways of enjoying football

No ref was attacked. Verbally? Yes. But where does that not happen? It's an intense rivalry but look at the crap at a Bohs v Rovers game with only a few thousand there! There's hardly any trouble around the ground during a Celtic v Rangers game. Sorry but in terms of hooliganism and thuggery I won't be lectured to by a Shamrock Rovers fan! Your scenes away to Dundalk, "taking" the Shed day. I've never seen anything like that while at a Rangers game in my puff!

People in glass houses........

[cornflakes]

No ref was attacked. Verbally? Yes. But where does that not happen? It's an intense rivalry but look at the crap at a Bohs v Rovers game with only a few thousand there! There's hardly any trouble around the ground during a Celtic v Rangers game. Sorry but in terms of hooliganism and thuggery I won't be lectured to by a Shamrock Rovers fan! Your scenes away to Dundalk, "taking" the Shed day. I've never seen anything like that while at a Rangers game in my puff!

People in glass houses........

Does that have more to do with the fact there's a bigger police presence at a game between Rangers and Celtic than a Rovers-Bohs or a Rovers-Dundalk game

[TiocfaidhArmani]

Big police presence maybe but per supporter I'm not sure re Rovers-Bohs. There's loads of Guards at Bohs v Rovers game. Generally at the stadium though although there's poison in the air, especially at Ibrox, but inside there's not much really bad happening. You would be surprised how many times I've seen Rangers fans walk almost through the Celtic fans walking up to the away end at the Broomloan end.

Now you're also saying about Rovers v Dundalk. Now that's exactly a major rivalry. Now in any SPL game where have you seen Celtic fans act like that and how many fans do we have compared to Rovers? There's just the same amount of police at a regular SPL game as there is at a LOI game and we don't act like animals in stadiums. We come, we support our team, we go home. Every. Single. Game. Rovers on the other hand...! Invading stands and bathering kids. Yeah, they can lecture to us...

[PartySaint]

Just to clarify I'm not defending those people but as peadar said, it's important to get rid of this thing that you can't support a 'foreign' club and a LOI club also. Of course you can. It should be encouraged. You can't beat the EPL but we should encourage folk to support both. I'm perfectly comfortable supporting Shels and Celtic. Why can't others?

This doesn't happen, No LOI fans care what team you support as long as you're supporting you're local LOI team and not giving ****e talk and the standard being crap or terrible excuses for not going like that

[BonnieShels]

Are you just back from McDowell's lad?
I understand exactly the sentiment you're trying to convey but I don't think that TAM will understand. He's a Celtic fan.

[Dodge]

I'm back from McDowells. It sucked watching the game this way

People who like watching games on TV are idiots

Awful way to experience your team

[BonnieShels]

I'm back from McDowells. It sucked watching the game this way

People who like watching games on TV are idiots

Awful way to experience your team

The most important word is "YOUR"!

"They" don't know what it's like to follow their team in the flesh.

[PartySaint]

Are you just back from McDowell's lad?


No




But I was in another pub

[BonnieShels]

No




But I was in another pub

Black Lion? Tyrconnell House? Clearys?

[Dunny]

The George?

[Charlie Darwin]

The Players' Lounge?

[bullit]

the players' lounge?
boom boom !!

[BonnieShels]

Bang bang surely?

[bullit]

Aye :(

[PartySaint]

Wow didn't think saying I was in a pub would lead to a guessing game, Just the Eagle in Dundrum nothing special and no Dunny i don't go that way

[BonnieShels]

Well you are important... or we're bored... I won't burst your bubble. The eagle... I'd've never guessed that... Timothy Crough's and the Black Horse were my next ones...

[Dunny]

Wow didn't think saying I was in a pub would lead to a guessing game, Just the Eagle in Dundrum nothing special and no Dunny i don't go that way

Ah, any which way but left.

[Mr A]

I suspect there are quite a few sore heads around this morning :)

[BonnieShels]

Look at Mr righteous...

I'm grand not a bother on me.

[TiocfaidhArmani]

This doesn't happen, No LOI fans care what team you support as long as you're supporting you're local LOI team and not giving ****e talk and the standard being crap or terrible excuses for not going like that

Not in my experience.

[TiocfaidhArmani]

Are you just back from McDowell's lad?
I understand exactly the sentiment you're trying to convey but I don't think that TAM will understand. He's a Celtic/Shels fan.

Fixed that for ya.

And you just proved my point above. Thanks ;)

[Macy]

Not in my experience.
In real life or the internet? And if it was real life, were you going on like you are on here by any chance?

[TiocfaidhArmani]

In real life or the internet? And if it was real life, were you going on like you are on here by any chance?

No, I venture outside my house from time-to-time to slum it with the common folk:cool:

[Dunny]

I suspect there are quite a few sore heads around this morning :)

Why who have you been beating up?? ;)

[peadar1987]

Black Lion? Tyrconnell House? Clearys?

The Purple Onion?

[thischarmingman]

I don't know where to start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2mSTAv2Tuc

[Rasputin]

I don't know where to start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2mSTAv2Tuc
Ohh lord.

[PartySaint]

I don't know where to start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2mSTAv2Tuc

I have the flu and didn't think I could feel any worse, sick in my mouth:(

[Charlie Darwin]

I know he probably got well paid but would you not feel like a complete gob****e recording that?

[Dunny]

That's fantastic!!!! Broke me hole laughing the whole way through

[ger121]

Isn't he the bloke from the McDonalds ad who says the "good english teams would, but not city" in response to the question "would city say, beat shels" or something to that effect.