Barstoolers Love-In

[DannyInvincible]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/liverpool-stars-gerrard-suarez-and-kuyt-thrill-irish-fans-at-store-opening-15155340.html


Hundreds of Irish Liverpool fans showed their commitment to the side by queueing for up to seven hours to see some of their idols -- for just 10 minutes.

...

But while there were three players present, there was only really one that the fans were interested in -- "Super Stevie Gerrard" -- as they chanted when he took to the stage.

Declaring it great to "share some time with the Irish fans", the captain reached across a thick barrier of security to his supporters.

"Liverpool has always had a huge number of Irish supporters and I know thousands come over to Anfield for every game, which in terms of time and the costs involved is a big sacrifice," he said.

And then, as quick as a Suarez stepover, the whole thing was finished and the three players disappeared into the store to be whisked back to the airport.

"What? Is that it?" cried one man as he made his way home.

Aww, poor craitur must have been expecting a five-course meal or something.

[BonnieShels]

yeah, i know - i was only joking... i thought the two smilies might have been a clue!

Sometimes smileys are miss-used. And thats really something I can't stand for.

[peadar1987]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/liverpool-stars-gerrard-suarez-and-kuyt-thrill-irish-fans-at-store-opening-15155340.html



Aww, poor craitur must have been expecting a five-course meal or something.

The really sad thing is that these people are the same ones who will avoid LOI games at all cost, and will quite happily use the excuse that the seats won't be quite soft enough on their barstool arses.

[DannyInvincible]

Given Denmark's proximity to Germany, or the large Turkish immigrant population living in German urban centres, try to envisage for a moment a main thoroughfare in Copenhagen or Istanbul ground to a standstill for a few hours by the visit of "local" heroes Frank Ribéry, Arjen Robben and Bastian Schweinsteiger...

http://www.easyartpro.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Richard-Allport-Artist-confused.jpg

[peadar1987]

It wouldn't even happen in Scotland, the country with a land border with England, and an English population triple that of ours.

[bingoballs]

Why not start a campaign to get the likes of Seamie Coleman, Kevin Doyle, Stephen Ward, Keith Fahy etc to do an ad promoting the LOI. The only way our league is will gain support is from barstoolers is through positive promotion from guys like this, with the add maybe aired during the premiership. Pressure should be put on the FAI to act on this, I'm sure they could afford it given their recent windfall.

[mypost]

Why not start a campaign to get the likes of Seamie Coleman, Kevin Doyle, Stephen Ward, Keith Fahy etc to do an ad promoting the LOI. The only way our league is will gain support is from barstoolers is through positive promotion from guys like this.

Already done on MNS. Makes no difference.

Barstoolers see LOI football as a feeder ground for English League talent, or more simply, the same way we LOI fans see non-Leagues in this country. We don't do ourselves any marketing favours with insane game scheduling, and poor tv coverage, but neither us nor them are willing to change the habits built up over many years. So the status quo remains.

[bingoballs]

Already done on MNS. Makes no difference.

Barstoolers see LOI football as a feeder ground for English League talent, or more simply, the same way we LOI fans see non-Leagues in this country. We don't do ourselves any marketing favours with insane game scheduling, and poor tv coverage, but neither us nor them are willing to change the habits built up over many years. So the status quo remains.
Ya but what barstooler is going to look at MNS anyway? Its the FAI's job to promote the domestic league. Sure players like those i mentioned would give some credibility to a campaign properly targeted at thar specific audience. Funnily enough, was chattin to a man city fan from manchester about how popular united are in Ireland, hia attitude was that they were all plastic mancs and should f*ck off and follow their own team.

[Rasputin]

Already done on MNS. Makes no difference.

Barstoolers see LOI football as a feeder ground for English League talent, or more simply, the same way we LOI fans see non-Leagues in this country. We don't do ourselves any marketing favours with insane game scheduling, and poor tv coverage, but neither us nor them are willing to change the habits built up over many years. So the status quo remains.
Oh dear god not the change the times football is played at debate.
Surely you embaressed yourself enough in that thread without having to start this nonsense again.

[peadar1987]

Already done on MNS. Makes no difference.

Barstoolers see LOI football as a feeder ground for English League talent, or more simply, the same way we LOI fans see non-Leagues in this country. We don't do ourselves any marketing favours with insane game scheduling, and poor tv coverage, but neither us nor them are willing to change the habits built up over many years. So the status quo remains.


As bingoballs said, you're preaching to the choir by running league promotion on MNS. Things like this need to be run during Champions' League games, and EPL highlights shows to actually have any proper effect.

[cornflakes]

Just came across this pile of ****e (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY5pHpP_v1M) on youtube uploaded by an Irish Chelsea fan

[mypost]

Surely you embaressed yourself enough in that thread.

No. But if you want the debate again, we'll have it again.


As bingoballs said, you're preaching to the choir by running league promotion on MNS. Things like this need to be run during Champions' League games, and EPL highlights shows to actually have any proper effect.

I don't know if you go to the internationals, but at every half time, full time, and pre-game at Lansdowne, there is a minute-long commercial on the screens promoting the league in front of a large crowd. But it passes by with little notice.

[BonnieShels]

Lads we have to stop this. I feel that all we are doing is annoying the crap out of ourselves. And for what???

As long as logic is banned from the FAI we will never have it any other way.

However, all those crets who diss this league from a barstool should be lined up against the wall...

[peadar1987]

I don't know if you go to the internationals, but at every half time, full time, and pre-game at Lansdowne, there is a minute-long commercial on the screens promoting the league in front of a large crowd. But it passes by with little notice.


Who's to say it's not having some effect? You own club are the prime example of what a bit of well-managed exposure and positive publicity can do for a team's attendances.

[bullit]

Take note.


mypost (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?p=1485790#post1485790)[QUOTE]http://foot.ie/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?p=1485790#post1485790)

The lads on the Shams forum wont even answer his posts.

[Royal rover]

check this out if not already posted -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEz5GfZUnBU

[monsexile]

Good to see the hypocrisy of Irish football fans shown up on the What Have the Brits show last night complete with Airtricity League v Manyoo footage

[Macy]

Funnily enough, was chattin to a man city fan from manchester about how popular united are in Ireland, hia attitude was that they were all plastic mancs and should f*ck off and follow their own team.
But what the barstoolers don't realise is, they'd get the very same reaction from most United fans too.

[marinobohs]

Most fans of the "bigger" EPL teams have nothing but distain for the "daytrippers" from Ireland and other locations and have an even lower opinion of them than we do.

[peadar1987]

Most fans of the "bigger" EPL teams have nothing but distain for the "daytrippers" from Ireland and other locations and have an even lower opinion of them than we do.

Which leads to the football365 mailbox mentality, where the deluded barstoolers elevate themselves to a level above the local fans of the big clubs. I saw one of them claim with (presumably) a straight face that anyone from Manchester could support Man United, but it took real courage and loyalty to adopt them as your team when you were from Dublin or Cork.

[marinobohs]

Which leads to the football365 mailbox mentality, where the deluded barstoolers elevate themselves to a level above the local fans of the big clubs. I saw one of them claim with (presumably) a straight face that anyone from Manchester could support Man United, but it took real courage and loyalty to adopt them as your team when you were from Dublin or Cork.

Well Peadar, you would need a straight face (and a hard neck) to be pitied by your own neighbours and those of your adopted town/city "across the water" for your football love.
My own favorite came from a Pats fan who was berated at a european match for, quote, claiming to be Irish and cheering against Celtic (game was St pats V Celtic).
We are such a messed up nation :rolleyes:

[BonnieShels]

FFS, I had to put up with it today from a Manchester City fan and a Liverpool fan never mind the abuse I took on Friday night for not really giving a crap about who won "the league". Explaining that we were only a third of the way through the season. Thankfully there's only one more bloody week left of "their season" Finally I can breath a sigh of relief.

I find it hilarious listening to so-called football fans and watch them wax lyrical how they do and then every month I read the trials and tribulations of our brethern over in Britain in WSC every month.

I go in today and then the crets started up about the trouble near Tolka on Friday... cos that's the reason they won't go to games here.

[peadar1987]

I go in today and then the crets started up about the trouble near Tolka on Friday... cos that's the reason they won't go to games here.

There's never any trouble at Termonbarry Alberts, you should send them down there.

[DannyInvincible]

Well Peadar, you would need a straight face (and a hard neck) to be pitied by your own neighbours and those of your adopted town/city "across the water" for your football love.
My own favorite came from a Pats fan who was berated at a european match for, quote, claiming to be Irish and cheering against Celtic (game was St pats V Celtic).
We are such a messed up nation :rolleyes:

"St. Patrick was ****ing Welsh too!"

[BonnieShels]

There's never any trouble at Termonbarry Alberts, you should send them down there.

Go down there in a Hibs shirt I dare ya... you'll not even get past the Purple Onion.

[Macy]

I go in today and then the crets started up about the trouble near Tolka on Friday... cos that's the reason they won't go to games here.
Those types just can't get their head around just how much, and how regular, trouble is in England. One of them in work was saying one of his pals was at the city v United semi, and was saying it was kicking off, but he couldn't find anything in the news - he was genuinely shocked when I said there's trouble, or attempted trouble, at the majority of english games. They just couldn't get their heads around it. Everytime I suggest going to Bohs (his nearest club) he brings up that crap TV3 programme!

[BonnieShels]

But its really starting to grate on me now. It's gotten to the point where I won't discuss soccer with anyone here.

Also, it has been said already but the lack of acknowledgment of the Europa League final from the city's football fans is nothing short of breathtaking.

[peadar1987]

But its really starting to grate on me now. It's gotten to the point where I won't discuss soccer with anyone here.

Also, it has been said already but the lack of acknowledgment of the Europa League final from the city's football fans is nothing short of breathtaking.


Oh, but that's only a couple of ****e Portuguese teams, sure why would we be interested in crap like that? Porto haven't won the Champions League in seven years, and did you know they've never won the Premier League? It's United for me, and it always has been, except for those times I supported Chelsea, Arsenal and Blackburn.

[mypost]

Also, it has been said already but the lack of acknowledgment of the Europa League final from the city's football fans is nothing short of breathtaking.

If your team's not in it, or it's not Liverpool/manu, nobody here gives a ....

[Cuyahoga]

I think the queens visit clashing with the europa final is not helping,all the media attention is on that.

[BonnieShels]

I think the queens visit clashing with the europa final is not helping,all the media attention is on that.

I was thinking that myself. It's a nice excuse but we know its not true.

[Réiteoir]

Oh, but that's only a couple of ****e Portuguese teams, sure why would we be interested in crap like that? Porto haven't won the Champions League in seven years, and did you know they've never won the Premier League? It's United for me, and it always has been, except for those times I supported Chelsea, Arsenal and Blackburn.

They also remind me of the character in the Fast Show:

For the third series of The Fast Show, Paul Whitehouse created the character Roger Nouveau, a newly converted middle-class football fan, played by John Thomson, whose every utterance betrayed the faddish nature of his devotion. “I used to support Manchester United,” he tells those in the vicinity of his recently acquired seat at Highbury, “but then you had to support them where I came from in, er, Hampstead.”

When United failed to win the league, he switched to Blackburn Rovers and he is “thinking of giving Newcastle Athletic a go”. But for now, he tells his appalled audience, “I’m a true blue Gunner Gooner - bang!”

Then, as soon as the first opposition goal goes in, he leaves. “Soccer!” he shouts, packing his picnic hamper away.

And this as well:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU

[BonnieShels]

Got asked earlier..."Now that your partner in Crime (aka my mate who shared my idiotic passion for Shelbourne) has moved to London, will you still support Shels?"

I'm gonna start doling out haymakers to such idiocy.

[Strawberry]

Just saw a Maynooth reds flag on tv at Old Trafford, thought you'd like to know

[PartySaint]

Got asked earlier..."Now that your partner in Crime (aka my mate who shared my idiotic passion for Shelbourne) has moved to London, will you still support Shels?"

I'm gonna start doling out haymakers to such idiocy.

I'm starting to think your colleagues are registered on here and just like winding you up to see your reaction on here every week

[BonnieShels]

I'm starting to think your colleagues are registered on here and just like winding you up to see your reaction on here every week

That one was a friend of mine in Spain. Since FF have left office and Spingal have gone boom there's a lot of dislike to be spread around.

[Straightstory]

More astonishing pandering to Barstoolers. In the Examiner newspaper (which is rubbish, incidentally, apart from the great Liam Mackey), under the drop down menu for 'Soccer', you can choose from: 'Premiership', 'Scotland', 'Europe' and, eh, 'Angry Fans'.
Or - Maybe... could this be possible?... the League of Ireland is just a mirage for patrons of Foot.ie. It doesn't really exist.

[Dunny]

Christ, has anyone seen RTE's ad for the Magners League final and Champions League final?!? CRINGE

[DannyInvincible]

Christ, has anyone seen RTE's ad for the Magners League final and Champions League final?!? CRINGE

Please tell more. Due to my present location, unfortunately I'm not graced with the luxury of being able to view RTÉ adverts.

[bennocelt]

Please tell more. Due to my present location, unfortunately I'm not graced with the luxury of being able to view RTÉ adverts.

Me too, a link wud be cool, tx

[BonnieShels]

Yeah. It's vomit inducing cringeworthiness.
Safe to say its a lad in a Leinster jersey sitting down to watch the match wearing man u slippers and then when the rugby is over a load of mates bail into the house in all their finest man united gear.

I nearly kicked the tv in.

[Jinxy]

I guarantee there isn't a single person in that ad that ever kicked a ball of any shape in their lives.
Which is fitting I suppose.

[cornflakes]

and even more fitting is that most Man U and Leinster fans never kicked a round or oval ball either

[Charlie Darwin]

This is a most spectacular piece of barstooling, I have to say.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0523/1224297546760.html

He can't support Man United *anymore* because they've become too commercial and corporate. But he won't go to a League of Ireland game because his friends won't approve and they're not going to win the Champions League anyway. So he'll just stick with Barcelona because they have both the community links and billions of euro he needs to truly throw his support behind a football team. Mad stuff.

[Jinxy]

and even more fitting is that most Man U and Leinster fans never kicked a round or oval ball either

Eh, that's what I mean.

[PartySaint]

This is a most spectacular piece of barstooling, I have to say.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0523/1224297546760.html

He can't support Man United *anymore* because they've become too commercial and corporate. But he won't go to a League of Ireland game because his friends won't approve and they're not going to win the Champions League anyway. So he'll just stick with Barcelona because they have both the community links and billions of euro he needs to truly throw his support behind a football team. Mad stuff.

Sweet Merciful Crap:dazed:

[cornflakes]

Eh, that's what I mean.

ya didn't read yours properly. Sorry bout that

[cornflakes]

This is a most spectacular piece of barstooling, I have to say.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0523/1224297546760.html




Fighting that is futile. And trying to counter it with Luddite proclamations of returning to the game’s grassroots is even more futile. The League of Ireland retains a notably vocal, if suspiciously barmy, support sect. But facing away from the Premiership in favour of a pilgrimage to Dalymount is like whittling wood outside Ikea: people think you’re just odd.

Why the need to insult LOI fans? Truly pathetic garbage.

[SkStu]

what grinds my gears it that barstoolers have twisted it so that LOI fans are demanding they support one league/team over the other, as the quote above illustrates. This is just not true (except from those who truly are barmy wood-whittlers). There is nothing wrong with, for example, following an English team as "your team" but attending 10 home games of your local club a season. If every premiership footie fan in a LOI centre did that, the league would be thriving. Its not really a lot to ask either is it? Its also not really that odd...

[DannyInvincible]

what grinds my gears it that barstoolers have twisted it so that LOI fans are demanding they support one league/team over the other, as the quote above illustrates. This is just not true (except from those who truly are barmy wood-whittlers). There is nothing wrong with, for example, following an English team as "your team" but attending 10 home games of your local club a season. If every premiership footie fan in a LOI centre did that, the league would be thriving. Its not really a lot to ask either is it? Its also not really that odd...

It's not the slightest bit odd. It's perfectly natural for someone to support their national league. Irish football support in general is what the oddity is on the global scale. The oddity is in supporting a foreign multi-billion pound industry like the Premier League in a sport traditionally bound by a sense of community and identity, complaining that the commercialisation of the game is ruining it for you and consequently deciding to support Barcelona instead because they have Messi who apparently returns football to its magical roots. After all, everyone knows Messi's salary per game is a bottle of Lucozade and pack of cheese and onion Tayto... They've the highest average salary per player of all professional sports teams around the globe and are the bloody second-richest club in the world in terms of revenue, for God's sake!


But what, or who, does the Manchester United of today represent in Saturday night’s final? It’s hardly the people of Sale, or Chorlton, or Stretford.

What on earth was this joker doing supporting Manchester United in the first place?


But then that same shirt contains a simple motto: “Mes que un club” – More than a club.

Now that’s something worth kissing.

Jesus wept.