Trouble outside Stadiums

[harleyleeds]

p.s its not an attack if your defending your property is it . The correct way for you to have stated it would be Sligo man attacked in vehicle by crazed Pats fan high on bad acid . the latter part is a joke by the way .

[A N Mouse]

So being a drunken tool justifies gbh now?

[harleyleeds]

So being a drunken tool justifies gbh now?



hardly. does it? surely not. but attacking someone entitles the person to self defence. was he a drunken fool? he was definetly a fool.

[rovers100%]

being a drunken fool attacking a o.a.p. does. attacking an old man is no better than attacking a child in my book. if it was your dad or grandfather how would you feel. this oap was being taunted, threatened, and getting his property damaged for a good 3 or 4 minutes before he done something. he had the fear of god put into him. attack was his only means of defence. i hope all the lads on here on their high horse never meet a drunken lout attacking them or they will be very sorry as there answer is to do nothing. see how that plans out lads !!!

[bluewhitearmy]

it sounds like the guy in the van was a pikey(possibly even from limerick he he ) so nothing to do with sligo rovers. pikeys are scumbags , again you should know this more than most. last if the pats fan didnt start hitting the van he wouldnt have got spanked. its all his own fault .


Your really gonna get into the Limerick thing and your from the North......Oh dear

[rovers100%]

think thread should be locked as we all know the true facts now.

[Hibs4Ever]

think thread should be locked as we all know the true facts now.


Definitely. St Pats fan hits someones car and is verbally abusive, that someone beats him over the head with a baseball bat leaving him in hospital. Sligo fans will not say a bad word about the scumbag with the bat, instead will defend him and say he was right to do what he done. The facts are clear for all to see. I agree with you

[L.T.F.C.]

think thread should be locked as we all know the true facts now.
The true facts?
I WAS TELLING THE HONEST TRUTH!

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Ah the poor defenceless 60 year old. Who just happened to be carrying a baseball bat with him. Yes what the Pats fans were doing was wrong but it certainly doesn't justify someone getting hit by a baseball bat. That's absolutely disgraceful and he should be up in court over it.

[bullit]

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3868327/2/istockphoto_3868327-big-yawn.jpg

Tired now .:rolleyes:

[shellyriver]

I saw RTE's Tommie Gorman inside the Showgrounds, using his extensive experience of peace diffusion, garnered on the Peace Wall's of up North, calming frayed nerves amongst a few St Pat's hard nuts, late in the game, handing out free hamburgers! I kid you not!

[pauliek]

Ah the poor defenceless 60 year old. Who just happened to be carrying a baseball bat with him. Yes what the Pats fans were doing was wrong but it certainly doesn't justify someone getting hit by a baseball bat. That's absolutely disgraceful and he should be up in court over it.
Your a header, if some starting hitting any of my property and their was more than one of them id pick up anything I could get my hands on and swing like Babe Ruth, as would most

[1st time post]

With the way this thread is going i would just like to point out that the man who hit the pats fan wasnt actually even in the showgrounds for the match. I aint condoning it or anything but jsut think people shud realise this and whatever was going through the pats fan head is beyond me.

[Charlie Darwin]

People are as quick to take sides on things as ever.

Fact is that people are entitled to defend their property to a reasonable degree. Generally that means they can use appropriate or proportional force to restrain the attacker. By all accounts, the Pats fan was bashing the van with something. It also seems to be undisputed that the man in the van hit the Pats fan in the end with a bat. Whether this can be considered appropriate or proportional force is one for the courts, really. As we all know, a blow to the head has the potential to be fatal. It's not something that should be undertaken in anything other than the most dire of circumstances.

Not to stir the pot or anything, but would the people arguing that the retaliation was justified maintain their position if the Pats fan had died? An extreme scenario, I know, but one that is nonetheless plausible.

[Mr A]

The LOI is just getting too dangerous. Next time I go to a game I'm driving one of these babies.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/01/article-1262882-08F73F75000005DC-497_634x363.jpg

[micls]

Scumbag attacks van, gets a smack of a bat off another scumbag.

Meh.

[bullit]

Wake up peep. We are catching up with with Mexico.

So

#Dont act like a mong in Sligo and attacking white vans is a no-no.
#Dont sing pro-Brit songs in Derry or the team bus gets it.

Updates as we get them ..........................

[mypost]

think thread should be locked.

Nah, let it lie. They're left open long enough, when it has something to do with us. For once, we're not the so-called "common denominator", although it's only a matter of posts before someone finds a common denominator. :rolleyes:

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Your a header, if some starting hitting any of my property and their was more than one of them id pick up anything I could get my hands on and swing like Babe Ruth, as would most

Good for you. Have a good time in Mountjoy

[Rasputin]

People are as quick to take sides on things as ever.

Fact is that people are entitled to defend their property to a reasonable degree. Generally that means they can use appropriate or proportional force to restrain the attacker. By all accounts, the Pats fan was bashing the van with something. It also seems to be undisputed that the man in the van hit the Pats fan in the end with a bat. Whether this can be considered appropriate or proportional force is one for the courts, really. As we all know, a blow to the head has the potential to be fatal. It's not something that should be undertaken in anything other than the most dire of circumstances.

Not to stir the pot or anything, but would the people arguing that the retaliation was justified maintain their position if the Pats fan had died? An extreme scenario, I know, but one that is nonetheless plausible.
But sure the Pats lads bottled him after he used the bat, both sustained head injurys that could have been very dangerous.
Either way this incident has nothing to do with our club since it didnt happen inside the ground, it didnt involve one of our fans it just so happens it occured in the same town as us.
This really has got nothing to do with us.

[Macy]

Either way this incident has nothing to do with our club since it didnt happen inside the ground, it didnt involve one of our fans it just so happens it occured in the same town as us.
Thank fook for that, we don't have to put up with Sligwegians taking the moral highground in every Rovers thread now they've finally excepted that what happens outside a ground is a general policing matter rather than for an individual club.

[Rasputin]

Thank fook for that, we don't have to put up with Sligwegians taking the moral highground in every Rovers thread now they've finally excepted that what happens outside a ground is a general policing matter rather than for an individual club.
Not when it involves your own fans, this lad wasnt a fan, wasnt even at the game.
Also I dont speak for "sligwegians", just giving my own personal opinion on an internet forum.

[Hibs4Ever]

Not when it involves your own fans, this lad wasnt a fan, wasnt even at the game.


How do you know he wasn't at the game?

[Rasputin]

How do you know he wasn't at the game?
The lads that saw the incident said he wasnt at the game.

[Hibs4Ever]

The lads that saw the incident said he wasnt at the game.



Ok then, how do "the lads that saw the incident" know he wasn't at the game? Did they ask him?

[disgruntled]

This thread sounds like Sean Connery in "The Untouchables". "They put one of ours in the hospital we put one of theirs in the morgue"
If the first yob hadn't decided to thump someone's van then the second yob wouldn't have hit him over the head with a bat.
So we have one yob in the hospital & one in jail. Two yobs less to worry about.I call that a result.:D

[Rasputin]

Ok then, how do "the lads that saw the incident" know he wasn't at the game? Did they ask him?
They recognised him and he doesnt go to our games.
Anyways should the burden of proof that he did go to our games not lie with yourself?
This whole thread is ridiculous, it has got nothing to do with our club, and before you say it that in no way means I am defending the lunatic with the baseball bat.

[harleyleeds]

Ok then, how do "the lads that saw the incident" know he wasn't at the game? Did they ask him?


this really is getting silly . I did ask why anyone in Ireland has a baseball bat and only one reason comes to mind so he most likely is a cnut. The Pats fan came out of the ground and began attacking someone in a car , also a cnut. wheither or not the first pr^^k was at the game is irrelevent surely. "He could have caused a head injury" really have you ever been in a scrap? its not foremost on your mind as to what particular injury you inflict. Pats fans should be looking for their **** of a fan to be banned from away games and of course im sure Sligo would have no problem banning the pikey. Problem solved. oh yes of course the Pats fan who bottled the pikey must also be banned .And of course I nearly forgot all Shamrock fans should be banned you know cos they will all cause trouble later , rape pillage etc , so lets stop it in advance.

[Réiteoir]

We've neglected to ask one main question out of all of this.

What was the bloke in the van's batting average for last year - I hear the Yankees are after a new lead-off hitter to replace this fella:

http://oneseasonnation.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/2009/01/babe-ruth-photograph-c10052353.jpeg

[harleyleeds]

We've neglected to ask one main question out of all of this.

What was the bloke in the van's batting average for last year - I hear the Yankees are after a new lead-off hitter to replace this fella:

http://oneseasonnation.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/2009/01/babe-ruth-photograph-c10052353.jpeg


sounds like the "batter" is just about the right level of scumbag for the "scumkies" as they are commonly called here.

[harleyleeds]

with Pats fans though he's one hit and one run . no word on wheither he made it home safe though .

[avvenalaf]

One question remains unasked and therefore, unanswered. If The Pikey had a baseball bat in his van was he coming from a wedding or a funeral?

[pineapple stu]

Seems like this is going around in circles too, so I'm going to lock it. If anyone has anything new to add, they can PM me.