FAI Junior Cup 2010/11

[Longshanks]

Anyone got the complete 3rd round draw??

as per usual FAI.ie is weeks behind, last update 3rd Oct

[Noddy]

has the regional/boro objection been heard yet? Seems to be dragging out. He was either illegal or he wasn't.

[cufc champions]

F.A.I. UMBRO JUNIOR CUP 3rd ROUND DRAW


WATERFORD
3rd ROUND
1 Tramore F.C. v St.Saviours
2 Piltown F.C. v Hibernians F.C.
3 Carrick United v Southend Utd.
4 Waterford Crys. v Bolton F.C.

ill take a home draw anytime it looks like two from tramore carrick glass and il go for a shock with piltown they are playing very well this year with some good ex carrick and rock rovers players

[Vianney Boys FC]

Anybody got the Leinster Draw....?

[mufc]

The proper draw... Got this on limericksoccer.com

LIMERICK AREA FAI Junior Cup 3RD ROUND DRAW
1 Ashling Annacotty v Carew Park
2 Holycross v Corbally United
3 Castle Rovers v Star Rovers
4 Shelbourne F.C. v Knockainey
5 Bruff United v Kilmallock United
6 Pike Rovers v Knocklong
7 Regional Utd. or Janesboro v Ballynanty Rvs.
8 Mungret Regional v Hyde Rangers
9 Cappamore Clt. v Geraldines
10 Hospital Crusaders v Shannon Hibs.

[whistleblower]

Do the winners of round 3 in Limeirck get into the main draw or is there a 4th round?

[allab]

Do the winners of round 3 in Limeirck get into the main draw or is there a 4th round?
there will be a 4th round draw then the fifth round is the open draw

[abbeyvale]

there will be a 4th round draw then the fifth round is the open draw

Yep, its been the 5 winners of the 4th round for the last few years now that go into the open 5th rd draw.

[abbeyvale]

LIMERICK AREA FAI Junior Cup 3RD ROUND DRAW
1 Ashling Annacotty v Carew Park
2 Holycross v Corbally United
3 Castle Rovers v Star Rovers
4 Shelbourne F.C. v Knockainey
5 Bruff United v Kilmallock United
6 Pike Rovers v Knocklong
7 Regional Utd or Janesboro v Ballynanty Rvs.
8 Mungret Regional v Hyde Rangers
9 Cappamore Clt. v Geraldines
10 Hospital Crusaders v Shannon Hibs

My last 10 Limerick teams to enter the 4th round draw in bold

[My-right-boot]

LIMERICK AREA FAI Junior Cup 3RD ROUND DRAW
1 Ashling Annacotty v Carew Park
2 Holycross v Corbally United
3 Castle Rovers v Star Rovers
4 Shelbourne F.C. v Knockainey
5 Bruff United v Kilmallock United
6 Pike Rovers v Knocklong
7 Regional Utd or Janesboro v Ballynanty Rvs.
8 Mungret Regional v Hyde Rangers
9 Cappamore Clt. v Geraldines
10 Hospital Crusaders v Shannon Hibs

My last 10 Limerick teams to enter the 4th round draw in bold

These fixtures being played this weekend??

[abbeyvale]

These fixtures being played this weekend??

Yep, according to Limericksoccer.com (bar the Regional or Boro v Balla, still waiting on the outcome of the objection)

[Ranger]

Anyone got the full third round draw (all regions) ?

[ProEvo]

Yea would be good if any one could get the Galway round 3 draw ?

[Longshanks]

wait for another 2 weeks, the FAI website might put it up

[Longshanks]

got this from View from the Touchline:

Ballymoe FC v Real Tubber

Boyle Celtic v Ballaghaderreen

Ballinasloe Town v Lisnamult Celtic

Manor Rangers v Dunmore Town

Kilkerrin United v Shiven Rovers

City United v Roscommon Town

[Longshanks]

I would expect both City and Boyle to progress, Manor are a good side too but the GAA club is in the provincial semi's that day too. Tubber could struggle.
Ballinasloe and Shiven to go throught too???

[white line]

1 Ashling Annacotty 2 v 1 Carew Park, carew without john boyle and there 2 cenrte halfs to big of a loss to get throu this game.
2 Holycross 1 v 6 Corbally United
3 Castle Rovers 1 v 4 Star Rovers
4 Shelbourne F.C 2. v 1 Knockainey
5 Bruff United 1 v 3 Kilmallock United
6 Pike Rovers 8 v 0 Knocklong
7 Regional Utd. or Janesboro v Ballynanty Rvs. back to this one prob in april
8 Mungret Regional 3 v 0 Hyde Rangers
9 Cappamore Clt 1. v 2 Geraldines
10 Hospital Crusaders 2 v 3 Shannon Hibs.

[Bobby D]

I still think its a joke that only two teams from Waterford can get out of the area, cause when you look back over the years whatever teams get out normally go very close to winning it if winning it..

[Mission Bell]

I still think its a joke that only two teams from Waterford can get out of the area, cause when you look back over the years whatever teams get out normally go very close to winning it if winning it..

Yeah, its down to politics I guess.
West Waterford League is lumped in with Tipp South and Tipp North giving those leagues bigger entries which in turn ensures a higher representation in the latter stages.
This is well known in soccer circles and really is a joke yet nothing is ever done about it.
Because of this only two teams come out of a league which has regular success at provincial and national level.

[Longshanks]

Only 3 teams get through from Sligo/Leitrim and Roscommon, 4 from Clare-Desmond-Kerry but Limerick gets 5, Cork gets 10?

[Mission Bell]

But we rarely see teams from Sligo/Leitrim, Roscommon or Clare/Desmond/ Kerry in latter stages of FAI or indeed Cork. Whereas Carrick and Waterford Crystal are fairly recent winners yet still only have two two representatives from their League.

[purplemonkeydis]

mayo section?

[Longshanks]

But we rarely see teams from Sligo/Leitrim, Roscommon or Clare/Desmond/ Kerry in latter stages of FAI or indeed Cork. Whereas Carrick and Waterford Crystal are fairly recent winners yet still only have two two representatives from their League.

is it just that Carrick and Crystal are/have been expectional sides in comparison to rest of the Waterford league? when Carrick or Crystal dont make it to the open draw how do your other representatives do?

also how many Waterford teams make it to the open draw for the MJC??

[ProEvo]

Only 3 teams get through from Sligo/Leitrim and Roscommon, 4 from Clare-Desmond-Kerry but Limerick gets 5, Cork gets 10?

simple answer Limerick and Cork have stronger junior teams so it makes sense to have more teams involved

[green&white]

simple answer Limerick and Cork have stronger junior teams so it makes sense to have more teams involved

outside of Ck Utd and Waterford crys ,all of Tramore , Dungarvan , Southend, Hibs , Johnville , bohs and not least Villa have been to later stages of Fai and Munster cups during past decade . No other league can boost similiar from small number of qualifiers. The standard is excellent, the numbers are political. The above statement shows lack of info and lack of respect to Waterford clubs efforts.

[pinero]

its to do with numbers of teams in leagues

[Footy Mad]

Mayo Section:
Sunday 7th November:

Westpot United v Bangor Hibs
Ballyheane v Ballinrobe/Conn Rangers
Ballina Town v Urlar
Manulla v Kilmore
Ballyhaunis Town v Moy Villa
Achill Rovers v Castlebar Celtic
Kiltimagh/Knock United v Ballina United
Claremorris v Iorras Aontaithe

[ProEvo]

outside of Ck Utd and Waterford crys ,all of Tramore , Dungarvan , Southend, Hibs , Johnville , bohs and not least Villa have been to later stages of Fai and Munster cups during past decade . No other league can boost similiar from small number of qualifiers. The standard is excellent, the numbers are political. The above statement shows lack of info and lack of respect to Waterford clubs efforts.


thats my opinion pal.... sounds like the organisers of the competition have no info either then. More clubs in Limerick and Cork, trying to get out of limerick itself can be an achievement due to the number of rounds.

[Longshanks]

simple answer Limerick and Cork have stronger junior teams so it makes sense to have more teams involved

forgive my ignorance, but how many Cork sides have been to later stages(quarters onwards) in the last 5/6 seasons??

[Longshanks]

thats my opinion pal.... sounds like the organisers of the competition have no info either then. More clubs in Limerick and Cork, trying to get out of limerick itself can be an achievement due to the number of rounds.

Isnt the fifth round the first 'open' round? by my logic all treams would have to win 4 games to get to the 'open' draw

[Mission Bell]

thats my opinion pal.... sounds like the organisers of the competition have no info either then. More clubs in Limerick and Cork, trying to get out of limerick itself can be an achievement due to the number of rounds.

Actually the organisers of th FAI Junior Cup do need to take a look at whats quite evident to the naked eye.
Why pitch West Waterford in with Tipperary South and North?
Why have so many teams from Cork in latter stages when past performance does not merit same?
Why have only two reps from WJL which, if scrutinized, probably has the highest ratio of teams reaching the latter rounds of the competition, given the amount of teams qualifying?

So when viewed from this perspective, NO, the organisers of the competition DO NOT HAVE sufficient information on the make up of the FAI Junior Cup.

[Longshanks]

outside of Ck Utd and Waterford crys ,all of Tramore , Dungarvan , Southend, Hibs , Johnville , bohs and not least Villa have been to later stages of Fai and Munster cups during past decade . No other league can boost similiar from small number of qualifiers. The standard is excellent, the numbers are political. The above statement shows lack of info and lack of respect to Waterford clubs efforts.

having done a bit of research, i have to say that the WJL teams seem to be always there or thereabouts at the quarters stage, Cork on the other hand seem to be poorly representented at the quarters stage.

2005 - Westport(Mayo) Killester(Dublin) Crystal(Waterford) Hibs(Galway) Bellurgan(Meath) Carew, Ballynanty, Park(Limerick
2006 - Killester, St John Bosco(Dublin) seem to recall Ballynanty(Limerick) beating Abbey(Sligo) in 1/4ers that year, the rest needs filling in
2007 - Killester, St John Bosco(Dublin) Wembley(Limerick) Carrick, Villa(Waterford) Salthill, West(Galway) Grattan(Cork)
2008 - Killester, Corduff(Dublin) St Michaels, Clonmel T(Tipp) Redcastle(Donegal) Manor Rangers(Leitrim) Carrick(Waterford) Castlebar(Mayo)
2009 - Ballymun, Sherriff(Dublin) Bohs(Waterford) Lisselton(Kerry) Erris(Mayo)Clonmel T(Tipp) Fairview(Limerick) St. Peters(Com. Co.)
2010 - Willow(Com. Co.) Shangan(Dublin) St. Micheals, Clonmel T(Tipp) Pike, Fairview, Regional, Killmallock(Limerick)

2006 (6)quarter finalists need to be completed. of the 42 teams listed they break down as follows:

Dublin 10
Limerick 9
Waterford 5
Tipp 5
Galway 3
Mayo 3
Combined counties 2
Kerry 1
Donegal 1
Sligo/Leitrim 1
Cork 1
Meath 1

Are Cork sides over represented in the 'open' draw???

[Mission Bell]

having done a bit of research, i have to say that the WJL teams seem to be always there or thereabouts at the quarters stage, Cork on the other hand seem to be poorly representented at the quarters stage.

2005 - Westport(Mayo) Killester(Dublin) Crystal(Waterford) Hibs(Galway) Bellurgan(Meath) Carew, Ballynanty, Park(Limerick
2006 - Killester, St John Bosco(Dublin) seem to recall Ballynanty(Limerick) beating Abbey(Sligo) in 1/4ers that year, the rest needs filling in
2007 - Killester, St John Bosco(Dublin) Wembley(Limerick) Carrick, Villa(Waterford) Salthill, West(Galway) Grattan(Cork)
2008 - Killester, Corduff(Dublin) St Michaels, Clonmel T(Tipp) Redcastle(Donegal) Manor Rangers(Leitrim) Carrick(Waterford) Castlebar(Mayo)
2009 - Ballymun, Sherriff(Dublin) Bohs(Waterford) Lisselton(Kerry) Erris(Mayo)Clonmel T(Tipp) Fairview(Limerick) St. Peters(Com. Co.)
2010 - Willow(Com. Co.) Shangan(Dublin) St. Micheals, Clonmel T(Tipp) Pike, Fairview, Regional, Killmallock(Limerick)

2006 (6)quarter finalists need to be completed. of the 42 teams listed they break down as follows:

Dublin 10
Limerick 9
Waterford 5
Tipp 5
Galway 3
Mayo 3
Combined counties 2
Kerry 1
Donegal 1
Sligo/Leitrim 1
Cork 1
Meath 1

Are Cork sides over represented in the 'open' draw???

Well done Shanks, good work.
When you look at this and take into cosideration that WJL has only two teams qualifying from that league, it makes their achievements all the more commendable.
This is something that needs to be be studied by the FAI if they are serious about getting the better sides involved in the competition. Before there is a barrage of criticism, we are not talking about wholesale changes. My suggestion is that representation is looked at on an equal basis.
It does'nt make sense that its harder to get out of your area than it is in the rounds immediately following, if you are lucky with the draw.
Again, well done.

[cufc champions]

it has to be looked really why not pitched wjl with wwec like in the munster junior and 3 maybe 4 teams through have the tsdl and ntdl together and leave 3/4 teams to the other town faze

[cufc champions]

Isnt the fifth round the first 'open' round? by my logic all treams would have to win 4 games to get to the 'open' draw
good spot everyone has the same amount of rounds to come through to get out of the area

[Longshanks]

having done a bit of research, i have to say that the WJL teams seem to be always there or thereabouts at the quarters stage, Cork on the other hand seem to be poorly representented at the quarters stage.

2005 - Westport(Mayo) Killester(Dublin) Crystal(Waterford) Hibs(Galway) Bellurgan(Meath) Carew, Ballynanty, Park(Limerick
2006 - Killester, St John Bosco(Dublin) seem to recall Ballynanty(Limerick) beating Abbey(Sligo) in 1/4ers that year, the rest needs filling in
2007 - Killester, St John Bosco(Dublin) Wembley(Limerick) Carrick, Villa(Waterford) Salthill, West(Galway) Grattan(Cork)
2008 - Killester, Corduff(Dublin) St Michaels, Clonmel T(Tipp) Redcastle(Donegal) Manor Rangers(Leitrim) Carrick(Waterford) Castlebar(Mayo)
2009 - Ballymun, Sherriff(Dublin) Bohs(Waterford) Lisselton(Kerry) Erris(Mayo)Clonmel T(Tipp) Fairview(Limerick) St. Peters(Com. Co.)
2010 - Willow(Com. Co.) Shangan(Dublin) St. Micheals, Clonmel T(Tipp) Pike, Fairview, Regional, Killmallock(Limerick)

2006 (6)quarter finalists need to be completed. of the 42 teams listed they break down as follows:

Dublin 10
Limerick 9
Waterford 5
Tipp 5
Galway 3
Mayo 3
Combined counties 2
Kerry 1
Donegal 1
Sligo/Leitrim 1
Cork 1
Meath 1

Are Cork sides over represented in the 'open' draw???

Have got 2006 quarter finalists: Killester, Portmarnock(Dublin) Pike, Aisling(Limerick), Clonmel T(Tipp) Crystal(WJL) Athenry(Galway) Castlebar(Mayo)

[Longshanks]

Lads,

Just to add this on the relative strengths and representaion of each league based over the quarter finalist in the 2006 - 2010 period.

Donegal/Inishowen/Cavan/Monaghan - 5 sides into open draw x 6 years = 30 teams through, 1 quarterfinalist
Galway - 3 = 18 , 4 1/4ers
Mayo - 4 = 24 , 4
Sligo/Leitrim/Roscommon - 3 = 18 , 1
Limerick - 5 = 30 , 11
Tipp Nth/Sth/West Wat/East Cork - 5 = 30 , 6
Kilkenny/Carlow/Wexford - 4 = 24 , 0
Dublin Sat/Sun/Kildare/Wicklow
Meath/Combined Counties - 21 = 126 , 13
Cork - 8 = 48 , 1
Waterford - 2 = 12 , 6
Kerry/Clare/Lim des - 3 = 18 , 1

[Longshanks]

And to rank each division/region that puts teams through to the 'open' draw based on their teams making the quarters(latter stages):

1. Waterford 6/12 50%
2. Limerick 11/30 36.6%
3. Galway 4/24 22.2%
4. Tipp N/S, WW, EC 6/30 20%
5. Mayo 4/24 16.6%
6. Dub/Kildare/Wiclow
Meath/Combine Co's 13/126 10.3%
7. Sligo/Leitrim/Ros 1/18 5.5%
7. Kerry/Clare/Lim Des 1/18 5.5%
9. Donegal/Inishowen
Cavan/Monaghan 1/30 3.3%
10. Cork 1/48 2%
11. Kilkenny/Carlow/Wex 0/28 0%

I've had to merge Dublin saturday and sunday as I could tell which were which.

Still interesting enough stats, although they probably dont prove much. I'd still have Limerick as the top Junior football division. But it does show that the WJL is seriously under represented in the 5th round draw in comparioson to the Cork areas. The WJL should be looking to merge with Kilkenny/Carlow/Wexford to give them a better chance of more teams entering the 5th round.

any thoughts??

[Mission Bell]

And to rank each division/region that puts teams through to the 'open' draw based on their teams making the quarters(latter stages):

1. Waterford 6/12 50%
2. Limerick 11/30 36.6%
3. Galway 4/24 22.2%
4. Tipp N/S, WW, EC 6/30 20%
5. Mayo 4/24 16.6%
6. Dub/Kildare/Wiclow
Meath/Combine Co's 13/126 10.3%
7. Sligo/Leitrim/Ros 1/18 5.5%
7. Kerry/Clare/Lim Des 1/18 5.5%
9. Donegal/Inishowen
Cavan/Monaghan 1/30 3.3%
10. Cork 1/48 2%
11. Kilkenny/Carlow/Wex 0/28 0%

I've had to merge Dublin saturday and sunday as I could tell which were which.

Still interesting enough stats, although they probably dont prove much. I'd still have Limerick as the top Junior football division. But it does show that the WJL is seriously under represented in the 5th round draw in comparioson to the Cork areas. The WJL should be looking to merge with Kilkenny/Carlow/Wexford to give them a better chance of more teams entering the 5th round.

any thoughts??
The figures speak for themselves. I'd have to disagree with you that they dont prove much though. I believe they are irrefutable proof that the FAI Junior Cup qualifiers need to be revised.
WJL is seriously under represented, not only in comparison to Cork but to all other leagues. There is no argument. Whether this is down to inaction on behalf of WJL or some other obscure factor, I dont know.
By the way Longshanks, on what do you base your reasoning for the top Junior football division?

[Longshanks]

The figures speak for themselves. I'd have to disagree with you that they dont prove much though. I believe they are irrefutable proof that the FAI Junior Cup qualifiers need to be revised.
WJL is seriously under represented, not only in comparison to Cork but to all other leagues. There is no argument. Whether this is down to inaction on behalf of WJL or some other obscure factor, I dont know.
By the way Longshanks, on what do you base your reasoning for the top Junior football division?

Well if the stats I put up today are anything to go by, (and as I've said they dont prove too much, although you disagree) you'll see that Limerick have had 9 different clubs making it to the last 8 over the last 6 cups(Fairview and Pike have been both in last 8 twice) it goes to show that there appears to be serious strength in depth in the Junior soccer scene in Limerick, it also seems to be well ran, resourced, financed, have good facilities and well publicised and supported league. I'm not saying that isnt the case in Waterford. As i said in an earlier post, there appears to be some really strong teams in Waterford.

But I'd imagine it'd be toss up between the Limerick Premier and the AUL A that would be the toughest league to win, not trying to be disrespectful to WJL or any other league, just my opinion

[Mission Bell]

Well if the stats I put up today are anything to go by, (and as I've said they dont prove too much, although you disagree) you'll see that Limerick have had 9 different clubs making it to the last 8 over the last 6 cups(Fairview and Pike have been both in last 8 twice) it goes to show that there appears to be serious strength in depth in the Junior soccer scene in Limerick, it also seems to be well ran, resourced, financed, have good facilities and well publicised and supported league. I'm not saying that isnt the case in Waterford. As i said in an earlier post, there appears to be some really strong teams in Waterford.

But I'd imagine it'd be toss up between the Limerick Premier and the AUL A that would be the toughest league to win, not trying to be disrespectful to WJL or any other league, just my opinion

My main point is, and your facts back this up, that there is an ambalance in the structure of the FAI Jun Cup qualifiers. This is very clear. Would you agree on this?
You could go back ten or twenty years, it would'nt matter. The statistics would be consistent.

Also in any of the top premier leagues you will almost always find the same three or four teams battling it out whether it be Dublin, Waterford, Limerick , Tipperary or wherever, all of them equally tough.
It would probably be easier to pick a league winner in Dublin than any of the other supposedly stronger leagues this season.

[green&white]

And to rank each division/region that puts teams through to the 'open' draw based on their teams making the quarters(latter stages):

1. Waterford 6/12 50%
2. Limerick 11/30 36.6%
3. Galway 4/24 22.2%
4. Tipp N/S, WW, EC 6/30 20%
5. Mayo 4/24 16.6%
6. Dub/Kildare/Wiclow
Meath/Combine Co's 13/126 10.3%
7. Sligo/Leitrim/Ros 1/18 5.5%
7. Kerry/Clare/Lim Des 1/18 5.5%
9. Donegal/Inishowen
Cavan/Monaghan 1/30 3.3%
10. Cork 1/48 2%
11. Kilkenny/Carlow/Wex 0/28 0%

I've had to merge Dublin saturday and sunday as I could tell which were which.

Still interesting enough stats, although they probably dont prove much. I'd still have Limerick as the top Junior football division. But it does show that the WJL is seriously under represented in the 5th round draw in comparioson to the Cork areas. The WJL should be looking to merge with Kilkenny/Carlow/Wexford to give them a better chance of more teams entering the 5th round.

any thoughts??

excellent analysis Longshanks. I wish powers that be would take a look and maybe reward best performing areas/leagues. It is always recognised in Waterford that getting out of area is a huge test for any club. This ensures decent representives in open draw , so allowing cream to the top .(so to speak)
In last six finals , Dublin 4 - WDJL 3 - Lim 2 - Tipp 1 -combined 1 -galway 1- are the finalists . This again shows strenght of Waterord league. One other thought is that the domination of dublin clubs in the past (60`s 70`s 80`s) is gone . Country clubs have come to the fore in leaps and bounds since.

[Longshanks]

My main point is, and your facts back this up, that there is an ambalance in the structure of the FAI Jun Cup qualifiers. This is very clear. Would you agree on this?
You could go back ten or twenty years, it would'nt matter. The statistics would be consistent.

Also in any of the top premier leagues you will almost always find the same three or four teams battling it out whether it be Dublin, Waterford, Limerick , Tipperary or wherever, all of them equally tough.
It would probably be easier to pick a league winner in Dublin than any of the other supposedly stronger leagues this season.

Might be tougher to pick the relegated teams too

[Innishvilla]

I do agree that the Waterford representation is a bit light - not just based on performance over the years but based on number of teams entered. However as far as I understand the number of teams qualifying for the out of town stages is mainly linked into the number of teams entered not on performance. Not a perfect method I grant you but just about the fairest way... This is just a summary of the Munster area...

Area == Junior teams entered == Qualifiers == Qualifiers per entrant
Clare/Kerry == 38 == 4 == 1:9.5
Cork Area == 74 == 8 == 1:9.3
Limerick == 53 == 5 == 1:10.6
Tipp/WWEC == 48 == 5 == 1:9.6
Waterford == 24 == 2 == 1:12

Yes it suggests Waterford are underrepresented by 1 team.

[Mission Bell]

I do agree that the Waterford representation is a bit light - not just based on performance over the years but based on number of teams entered. However as far as I understand the number of teams qualifying for the out of town stages is mainly linked into the number of teams entered not on performance. Not a perfect method I grant you but just about the fairest way... This is just a summary of the Munster area...

Area == Junior teams entered == Qualifiers == Qualifiers per entrant
Clare/Kerry == 38 == 4 == 1:9.5
Cork Area == 74 == 8 == 1:9.3
Limerick == 53 == 5 == 1:10.6
Tipp/WWEC == 48 == 5 == 1:9.6
Waterford == 24 == 2 == 1:12

Yes it suggests Waterford are underrepresented by 1 team.

Well done on the research which again shows an imbalance in representation from Waterford.
However, my central point is that a simple change, merging the Waterford Junior League with West Waterford East Cork League would correct the situation.
Why have a county the size of Tipperary composed of two separate leagues joined up with WWEC.?
WHO makes these decisions and on what criteria are they based?
Have any teams from the WWEC League ever qualified from this section?
Are they merely cannon fodder for the stronger Tipperary sides, particularily South Tipp?

Any thoughts?

[Innishvilla]

I don't know about the strength of the West Waterford/East Cork league but it does seem strange that a cork/waterford league gets folded into neither cork nor waterford. I would see waterford as being the obvious choice as I couldn't imagine a team from waterford being happy to face a trip to clonakilty - well it would be like qualifying for the out of town section I suppose...

[Mission Bell]

I agree. It just does'nt make sense that West Waterford/East Cork are not put with WJL. This would be a good starting point for the FAI if and when they decide to address the issue.

[cufc champions]

I don't know about the strength of the West Waterford/East Cork league but it does seem strange that a cork/waterford league gets folded into neither cork nor waterford. I would see waterford as being the obvious choice as I couldn't imagine a team from waterford being happy to face a trip to clonakilty - well it would be like qualifying for the out of town section I suppose...
the wwec is a poor enough standard two tier leagus that are spilt after xmas, they have good facilities in cappaquin and a good fundraising commitee, but the gaa rules the roost, recently lismore were thrown out for not fielding a team two games running and mondeligo folded for not having a squad

[widow]

Heard Regional won their objection against boro, any truth in that?

[trueview6]

Heard Regional won their objection against boro, any truth in that?

I heard boro were gone but it could be just rubbish.