League Cup Semi Finals

[Jicked]

Please don't take it personally, I am sure all the Shams and Boah's will be wearing the light blue together when they play whoever they are playing next.

I'm not sure you understand the history Rovers fans have with the gahliban too well. I'm about as likely to support a GAA game as do a whip round in work for Bohs Aid

[Rasputin]

Absolutely unreal, thank you Paul Cook and Padraig Amond for one of the best nights of me life.
Still buzzing after that game.
We are probably the best club that has ever existed, ever.

[superjohnny]

Absolutely unreal, thank you Paul Cook and Padraig Amond for one of the best nights of me life.
Still buzzing after that game.
We are probably the best club that has ever existed, ever.

Oh Dear....................................!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[hoops1]

I always enjoy the games down in Sligo as they play some really nice football. The bit of luck we enjoyed down there the last time went for Sligo last night. If Monaghan get to play the final at home it wont be easy. Best of luck to the two teams.

[Magicme]

Absolutely unreal, thank you Paul Cook and Padraig Amond for one of the best nights of me life.
Still buzzing after that game.
We are probably the best club that has ever existed, ever.

Hey are you a Mons fan? :-D

[dfx-]

I'll take the four points and a League Cup semi final defeat...are Sligo still in the real Cup?

I know Mons had the easier draw with getting Dundalk, but still, good to see them do the business..

[Rasputin]

I'll take the four points and a League Cup semi final defeat...are Sligo still in the real Cup?
Yup, we have Balleybofey away which I cant wait for.

[poster]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs376.snc4/45956_459437803139_681618139_6357600_585203_n.jpg

[atfconline]

Bummer, hard luck Dundalk.

[KUFCMan]

Does anybody know its a toss of a coin for home venue or when the venue is to be decided?

[hoopy]

Just wondering what Sligo fans thought the attendance was last night?

[Rasputin]

Just wondering what Sligo fans thought the attendance was last night?
Apparently the "official attendance" was 1600 or so.
But that is just factually incorrect when you consider the main stand alone holds about 1800.
I would say the attendance was probably around 2500.

[hoopy]

Apparently the "official attendance" was 1600 or so.
But that is just factually incorrect when you consider the main stand alone holds about 1800.
I would say the attendance was probably around 2500.

Cheers. Nothing to do with the game which Sligo deserved to win but not the first time we've played there and the 'official' attendance was lower than the actual attendance, in this case about 700-800 lower.

[mypost]

After ground-hopping, court cases, examinership, relegation, we just needed a man with a finger waving at us, to complete the set. We're all devastated. :eek:

Never mind though, during all those years we managed to find a proper banner.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2765851495_fbd600e652_o.jpg

[PartySaint]

I like the 'total event rental' sign above the banners, It's like youse were playing in the the SDCC Stadium

[poster]

Never mind though, during all those years we managed to find a proper banner.



Pity that banner doesn't apply to the modern Shamrock Rovers.

[Dodge]

After ground-hopping, court cases, examinership, relegation, we just needed a man with a finger waving at us, to complete the set. We're all devastated. :eek:

Never mind though, during all those years we managed to find a proper banner.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2765851495_fbd600e652_o.jpg

A proper banner but not a proper trophy. Well done.

[dcfcsteve]

Good work the Mons - you seem to have a decent team together at the moment.

When is the final and the coin toss to decide on home advantage ? If it's one of those special 'behind closed door' coin tosses, I suspect it'll go to the Showgrounds to ensure a decent crowd.

[hoopy]

to ensure a decent crowd.

Will that be the real attendance or the attendance given by Sligo?

[pineapple stu]

We're all allowed to discuss each others' clubs. If all you have to contribute is "Bitter", "Jealous" or "Obsessed", then find another forum for it.

Crap moved to rubbish.

[Rasputin]

We're all allowed to discuss each others' clubs. If all you have to contribute is "Bitter", "Jealous" or "Obsessed", then find another forum for it.

Crap moved to rubbish.
Funny how that only applys to rovers fans but every time your beloved shams is being questioned the same inane replys are deemed ok.

[pineapple stu]

If you have a problem with someone else's post, report it. I don't seem to recall any Rovers fans whose posts consisted purely of "Obsessed" like yours did. That's quite clearly against the rules (http://foot.ie/threads/34422-Rules-Links-Info) you signed up to.

[Mr A]

I think the question of why the official attendance was so at odds with what everyone thought was there is a very legitimate one, especially where the gate is split and where the claim has been made on the Ultras forum the Shamrock Rovers officials made an estimate of 2400 people there from clickers on the turnstiles.

[Boo_Boy]

I don't seem to recall any Rovers fans whose posts consisted purely of "Obsessed" like yours did..

Good one!

[redarmyfaction]

I'm not sure you understand the history Rovers fans have with the gahliban too well. I'm about as likely to support a GAA game as do a whip round in work for Bohs Aid

I am aware of no issues, but do I know Thomas Davis GAA brought a judicial review against SDCC over plans for Tallaght.

[sligoman]

Interesting talk on Shams forum (http://www.srfcultrasforum.com/forum/showthread.php?12247-V-sligo-ea-sports-semi-final-tue-17th-august-2010&p=258618&viewfull=1#post258618) about the ref not reporting something that he should have...getting away with things cos Doyle's a Shams fan, great.

[redobit]

I think the question of why the official attendance was so at odds with what everyone thought was there is a very legitimate one, especially where the gate is split and where the claim has been made on the Ultras forum the Shamrock Rovers officials made an estimate of 2400 people there from clickers on the turnstiles.

Well bigger fools them if they left the ground without their full allocation.

[bullit]

In all fairness, there does seem to be a(fair enough) discrepancy between the "official" figures and the tally"s from Sligo fans(and others) on here:confused:

[micls]

Well bigger fools them if they left the ground without their full allocation.

What do you want them to do, steal it?(cue tallaght jokes...)

You can tell the fai rep you're not happy etc etc but if he doesn't agree with you there's little else you can do on the night.

[redobit]

What do you want them to do, steal it?(cue tallaght jokes...)

You can tell the fai rep you're not happy etc etc but if he doesn't agree with you there's little else you can do on the night.

You have a short memory.

We played Cork in the Cup last season and they were giving us an allocation of the gate. Rovers had counters on the gate, knew the figure to be incorrect, called the FAI and didnt go back on the bus until they got their money.

[dfx-]

I think the question of why the official attendance was so at odds with what everyone thought was there is a very legitimate one, especially where the gate is split and where the claim has been made on the Ultras forum the Shamrock Rovers officials made an estimate of 2400 people there from clickers on the turnstiles.

Especially when it's a difference of about 800 people. Unbelievable that they'd try it...

It's obvious from the highlights video that there was well over 2000+ there.

[dublinred]

Heard the cash was counted and amounts split and agreed between the clubs and FAI , i think the lower attendance figure comes from cash / €15 admission , given there is a lot of concessions and a lot of €5 kids taking seats in main stand it wouldn't be too far off, Shams would not of left the ground unless they were happy wiht the allocation thnk this is just a smokescreen to try and deflect from the result , nodody sems to mention that shams are playing like Wimbledon at the moment route one all the way.

[Dodge]

Especially when it's a difference of about 800 people. Unbelievable that they'd try it...

It's obvious from the highlights video that there was well over 2000+ there.

It seems pineapple stu will have to go through each of the sligo games this year and knock 33% of each of the Sligo fans guestimates.

[pineapple stu]

nodody sems to mention that shams are playing like Wimbledon at the moment route one all the way.
In a discussion about whether or not Sligo robbed Rovers of a few grand (and I don't know either way what happened), how could Rovers' style of football possible be relevant?

Dodge - I already took 20% off Sligo's figures when downgrading from fan guesstimates to programme figures. There was uproar. The programme was evil incarnate with a clear agenda, it seems.

[dublinred]

In a discussion about whether or not Sligo robbed Rovers of a few grand (and I don't know either way what happened), how could Rovers' style of football possible be relevant?

Dodge - I already took 20% off Sligo's figures when downgrading from fan guesstimates to programme figures. There was uproar. The programme was evil incarnate with a clear agenda, it seems.

Apologies I foolishly thought the thread was called "League Cup Semi Finals" and made a comment on Shams current style of play.

[pineapple stu]

Touché. Bringing a thread back on-topic? It'll never take on.

[dfx-]

i think the lower attendance figure comes from cash / €15 admission , given there is a lot of concessions and a lot of €5 kids taking seats in main stand it wouldn't be too far off

800 people paying at €2.50 or €25 is still 800 people..

[Rasputin]

Dodge - I already took 20% off Sligo's figures when downgrading from fan guesstimates to programme figures. There was uproar. The programme was evil incarnate with a clear agenda, it seems.
I dont recall anyone saying it was "evil incarnate with a clear agenda"?
I do recall fans saying it was clearly innacurate.
If you want somehwhat accurate guesstimates then ask for the general concensus from Rovers fans.
If you want a downsized innacurate figure for attendances then look at the match programme.

[Dodge]

Why would the programme deliberately "downsize" your attendance figures?

If its one thing the Attendence thread (and its predecessors) has shown its that football fans ALWAYS vastly over estimate the crowd.

[pineapple stu]

"Evil incarnate with a clear agenda" was clearly a jokey exaggeration on my part.

I'd never consider fans' estimates "somewhat accurate" and only use them as a last case when there's nothing more reliable available.

If you reckon the figures published by the club in the official match programme are well under what they really were, then you're back to Mr A's point above.

[Rasputin]

800 people paying at €2.50 or €25 is still 800 people..
Look there was more than 1600 at the game from my perspective.
Maybe the club did try to swindle Shams out of a few grand, maybe the attendance was really 1600 or maybe there were other factors behind the attendance figure.
I dont know why it seems the "official" attendance figure seemed significantly off, but its all guess work and conjecture as to that reason.
There is very little either sides of the debate with Shams fans and Rovers fans can do about that.
Its down to the clubs management to sort it out since neither of us know the full story.
But since we are on about discrepencies at the game and Shams fans are on the moral crusade.
How was it that Doyle did not include something which was very damaging to Shams in his match report?
A former season ticket holder at Shams and a well known shams fan refereeing a Shams game?
*Que Pineapple Stu rideing to the rescue.

[Rasputin]

Why would the programme deliberately "downsize" your attendance figures?
TBH Dodge I really dont know.
My gut feeling is that it is over Money or the like but its well known those figures are significantly off.

If its one thing the Attendence thread (and its predecessors) has shown its that football fans ALWAYS vastly over estimate the crowd.
What about when even opposing fans agree with the guesstimates of Rovers fans?
Anyways its quite easy to estimate the attendance in the showgrounds since usually 80-90% of the attendance is in the New Stand.

[dfx-]

I dont know why it seems the "official" attendance figure seemed significantly off, but its all guess work and conjecture as to that reason.
There is very little either sides of the debate with Shams fans and Rovers fans can do about that.
Its down to the clubs management to sort it out since neither of us know the full story.

Guess work?

800 people? We're not talking a foot.ie arguable 20 or 50 people here..

[pineapple stu]

What about when even opposing fans agree with the guesstimates of Rovers fans?
Yep, still fan guesstimates. Still quite probably too high.


*Que Pineapple Stu rideing to the rescue.
Indeed I shall. It's "cue", not "que". ;)

[red bellied]

The attendances in the Rovers programme are half baked. Most of them are rounded up, three of them have an odd number on the end. I think these figures are released to the press box to cover in their reports. The official figure for the cup semi final last season against Waterford was 2,900. It would be correct though to go on these figures in the programme for the attendance records on here and I say the club would be very happy with that.

[Rasputin]

Guess work?

800 people? We're not talking a foot.ie arguable 20 or 50 people here..
I am clearly refering to the fact that none of us have any factual evidence here.
The only ones that do are Shams and Rovers officials.
Now when your ready respond to my whole post instead of conveniently dodging the fact that a referee who was a former season ticket holder at shams and was refereeing a shams game conveniently omitted some damaging instances from his match report.
Either him getting hit with objects from shams support or one of your fans getting arrested after stopping the game.

[redobit]

This thread has become a joke. Shams fans have got exctly what they wanted and deflected away from the game, the crap football they play and the result.

Shams fans are calling our club robbers. An attendance figure has been given out and all of a sudden were shafting an other club. Neither club, especially Shams, have made a statment on this. Until there is somthing official, the Mons on here would want to sort this out, because all that is happening is Sligo Rovers name been dragged through the mud.

[kkontour]

Heard the cash was counted and amounts split and agreed between the clubs and FAI , i think the lower attendance figure comes from cash / €15 admission , given there is a lot of concessions and a lot of €5 kids taking seats in main stand it wouldn't be too far off, Shams would not of left the ground unless they were happy wiht the allocation thnk this is just a smokescreen to try and deflect from the result , nodody sems to mention that shams are playing like Wimbledon at the moment route one all the way.

If this is the case then it matters not what the 'official' attendance was, as long as all the money taken at the gate was split and all parties went off happy.

[osarusan]

If that were the case, Shamrock Rovers fans on here would be saying that the amount of money received seemed small in relation to the attendance announced. But they're pointing out that the official attendance seemed quite a bit smaller than their, and some Sligo fans' estimates.

I and seemingly they (Shamrock Rovers fans) have no idea whether the club was satisfied with their take of the gate.

If Sligo have managed to keep the profits of more than 500 paying customers for theselves, and only split up the proceeds of the official attendance with Shamrock Rovers, then the away team has a right to complain. It would by no means be the first time it has happened in LOI football. And to be honest, I can't imagine any other reason why a club would announce a lower attendance than there actually was.

[Redzer]

I blame the 800 or so supporters who are "vertically challenged" It's obvious they are not tall enough to reach the new turnstile counter. Hence the low "official attendance" records.:embarrassed: