Roy Keane on Henry and John Delaney

[Superhoops]

Roy,

Stick your apology up your jacksie and f*ck off.

[Junior]

the "apology" below
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5719769,00.htmlwords




That link doesnt work try this one.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12098_5719769,00.html

[prince20]

Not sure if this has been posted but its brilliant!!!! Its gift grubs version of events...
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=179463384148&ref=nf

[Scram]

Some result for the Canaries tonight lads, 4-1. Wes on the mark for the fifth game in a row

Roy Keane thread?

[Donegalcelt]

Worry about your oun mess Roy.

Trappas record:
Juventus

Italian League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serie_A): 1976-77, 1977-78, 1980-81, 1981-82, 1983-84, 1985-86
Italian Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coppa_Italia): 1978-79, 1982-83
European Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Cup): 1984-85 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Cup_1984%E2%80%9385)
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Cup_Winners%27_Cup): 1984 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_UEFA_Cup_Winners%27_Cup_Final)
UEFA Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Cup): 1977 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_UEFA_Cup_Final), 1993 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_UEFA_Cup_Final)
European Super Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Super_Cup): 1984
Intercontinental Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European/South_American_Cup): 1985 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Intercontinental_Cup)


Internazionale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._Internazionale_Milano):

Italian League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serie_A): 1988-89
UEFA Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Cup): 1991 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_UEFA_Cup_Final)



Bayern Munich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayern_Munich):

German League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesliga_(football)): 1996-97
German Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Cup): 1997-98



S.L. Benfica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.L._Benfica):

Portuguese League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Liga): 2004-05



FC Red Bull Salzburg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Red_Bull_Salzburg):

Austrian League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_Bundesliga): 2006-07

Roy Keane - zero

Then he has a go at Shay Given....Shay loves Eire..not like Roy.....still waiting on a call from John Delanely since you were 15....

Just tone your language down Aldo

[bennocelt]

Roy Keane thread?

Ipswich and Norwich are rivals

[Junior]

So he came out with $hite last Friday....
Then he made some kind of half cocked apology to 'Ipswich' fans at their AGM midweek.
Today, he says something along the lines of 'he has no regrets, he was asked his opinion and he gave it - Im entitled to, im an Irish man, born and bred' A dig a McCarthy me thinks - Went on to have a dig at Wenger as well...

They appear to have cut the bit about Ireland though they did cover it on SSN

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_5724405,00.html

[Closed Account]

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=goal-ipswichtownbossroykeaneblas&prov=goal&type=lgns


Ipswich Town (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AokqgZ3_Lv.yRMz6prRkAUQXRJ54/SIG=11pulo8ee/**http%3A//goal.com/en-gb/teams/england/708/ipswich-town) manager Roy Keane (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AuQ3bjZACluQ2uIBGQQ90CoXRJ54/SIG=11onl629n/**http%3A//goal.com/en-gb/people/ireland/1949/roy-keane) has blasted Arsenal (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ak_PwclIK9VlnpgQNP0EpRIXRJ54/SIG=11j6m9fr3/**http%3A//goal.com/en-gb/teams/england/94/arsenal) manager Arsene Wenger (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AoDJFTCnV00XY5ywox32Ml4XRJ54/SIG=11rpiup53/**http%3A//goal.com/en-gb/people/france/2843/arsene-wenger) after his comments about the Republic of Ireland's controversial World Cup exit at the hands of France.

Keane questions the right of Wenger to pontificate about sportsmanship in relation to the affair, with the Irishman pointing out that the Gunners have hardly been a model of honourable conduct during the Frenchman's time in charge.
"People were giving their own comments last week, obviously I gave mine as an ex-player and as an Irishman," Keane told reporters at his Friday press conference, referring to his remarks that the Irish should "get over" their exit.
"And I mean an Irishman, born and raised there, I thought I was entitled to give my opinion. Everyone else has given their opinions - other managers who aren't even Irish - so I thought I was entitled to give mine.
"I've got no regrets about it. If someone asks me a question I'm going to give you an answer.
"I think I'm entitled to do that. As usual, people get upset by it.
"We're on about incidents and players, whether they be cheating or conning referees, it's all part of the game.
"I don't know about Arsene Wenger making the point. Some of the Arsenal behaviour over the last few years is questionable and Arsene Wenger never sees anything anyway.
What complete rubbish


He's an Irishman so he's allowed comment on the Ireland-France incident.


Wenger is not allowed because of quesionable behaviour in the past.
What a hypocrite, his only saving grace is that maybe he doesn't know Wenger is French:rolleyes:

[geysir]

Roy is getting smaller by the day.
He looks a sorry sight on that sky sports video clip.

[OwlsFan]

Isn't it all so sad really? Saipan and Paris. Has any other country ever had two such monumental screw ups (albeit of a totally different kind). It's not that we're regularly on the world stage.

:(:(

[geysir]

Roy doing his best to get on the Paris stage by heckling from the street.

[Stuttgart88]

Wenger has said a replay would be fair, so what has Keane got to complain about?

OK, Wenger is trying to do the right thing by Henry to whom he is a kind of father figure but unless I missed something Wenger's synopsis of the match was very complimentary towards the Irish and fully acknowledged the error of the decision.

Roy is losing it by the sound of things.

[Stuttgart88]

Isn't it all so sad really? Saipan and Paris. Has any other country ever had two such monumental screw ups (albeit of a totally different kind). It's not that we're regularly on the world stage.

:(:(yeah, I was thinking the same. It's amazing how we have totally dominated the international headlines twice now and without even winning a game.

[weldoninhio]

What possibly goes through roy keanes mind when he is giving press conferences on the Friday before matches? Does he not realise that his team have made the worst ever start to a season since they came into existence??

Surely he'd be better off concentrating on his team!! Some people say "he is only answering the questions that are being put to him" but he is quick enough to stand up to a journo whos phone rings, surely he could fix them with his faux hardman stare and say "I'm here to answer questions about my team Ipswich, and tomorrows loss. I mean game"

[back of the net]

ermmmmm....im bit confused ere lads...

Roy says:
"I've got no regrets about it. If someone asks me a question I'm going to give you an answer."

but just a couple of days he says about last weeks rant:

"The comments were perhaps over the top and I apologise to any supporter I might have offended," he said.

"I'm 38 years of age and I'm going to make mistakes."


how can he have no regrets but yet apologise over it and acknowledge he made a mistake and went OTT with last weeks rant.......oh Roy...why do u confuse me so!!!

His last comment about getting cameras at the emirates stadium is quite funny though for such a bitter man
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12098_5725449,00.html



You have to wonder what do the Ipswich board make of his latest outbursts ? the season nearly half over , there 2nd from bottom, huge game away to cardiff at the w/e and roys getting perplexed over an international fixture....would it be fair to say if they lose to cardiff , roy will be shown the door?

[Beavis]

Everyone seems agree that Keane is malicious and petty. Mick remains a man of integrity.
Can Keanites concede we were right about Saipan all along? :D

[amaccann]

What I find most amusing about Keane the manager & his dabbles in the public spotlight is when you compare it to how others react to the same scenario.

Yes it's a different sport, but watch Declan Kidney's press conferences & how he fields questions. What a pro, to a fault even; he gives nothing away, reserves praise & diplomacy for everyone, and never rises to a barb or an attempt by a Journo to get a quotable-quote. Sure it's journalistic drying-paint, but this is why Kidney is world-renound.

Roy Keane needs to learn that the hatchet-man / "calls it like I see it" routine is winning him no favours and is just playing into the hands of the Journalists eager to make him look a bitter fool (though Roy at the moment doesn't need outside help to do that).

[Predator]

I think Keane's aware of how the media works and get this, I don't think he cares about whatever circus his usually-brutally-honest comments create. More often than not, he makes valid points and sometimes people just can't take it.

For some reason I think he's modelling himself on Brian Clough...

[cheifo]

I think Keane's aware of how the media works and get this, I don't think he cares about whatever circus his usually-brutally-honest comments create. More often than not, he makes valid points and sometimes people just can't take it.

For some reason I think he's modelling himself on Brian Clough...

Brian Clough was witty and entertaining during interviews. He also won loads of Trophies. The way Roy is going you would almost worry for him.

[geysir]

His devils are getting bigger and shouting louder.

a devil on one side and a bigger devil on the other (http://www.videosurf.com/video/roy-keane-kills-michael-owen-54429732)

[amaccann]

I think Keane's aware of how the media works and get this, I don't think he cares about whatever circus his usually-brutally-honest comments create. More often than not, he makes valid points and sometimes people just can't take it.

For some reason I think he's modelling himself on Brian Clough...
He may not care, but his ill advised mouthing off about all and sundry is going to lose him friends & influence. If he's a smart man he'd realise that making enemies of everyone won't get him a replacement job that easily when he's turfed out of Ipswich.

[volley]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Fascinating that is. He's clearly right then isn't he!

[Stuttgart88]

Keane at it again to a degree this morning claiming Ireland fotballers have a "win or lose, hit the booze" mentality, unlike their rugby counterparts. He also says that Munster lost a Heineken Cup final through cheating.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article6962332.ece

Now hang, on. My recollection of that game isn't that clear. Munster had a scrum inside Leicester 22 in the dying minutes. They were 6 points down, no?

Back's cheating led to the scrum being botched and Leicester saw the game out. Cynical piece of cheating no doubt, but it cost Munsther the possibilityof coming back, not the probability, which I think is an important distinction.

I just think it's rich that Munster lose because of cheating, Ireland get eliminated because "same old same old losing mentality and not taking chances", nothing whatsoever to do with cheating.

The "win or lose hit the booze" quote makes two appearances and it's not clear whether the first quote refers directly to the team, though that's how the journalist presented it.

However he has a pop at the fans' attitude “I have always felt with them we have come up short and always because we seem to settle for second best, and the ‘win or lose, hit the booze’ attitude of the Irish supporters,” he said. “The rugby lads have taken it to a different level [of professionalism and success]. That’s why I like the rugby players.". What about giving away a penalty in Cardiff with the clock on 80 minutes? Winning mentality, or sheer good fortune that Jones missed his first kick of the game?

Hang on, he's comparing the attitude of pro rugby players to Irish football fans here, no? He's not comparing like with like. Rugby fans show very little emotion after a defeat, it's just a bit of an occasion. They're hardly teetotallers. At Croker in 2007 everyone around me was laughing and joking after France's late winner. Just look at how devastated we all were after Paris.

It's actually quite an interesting article but where he could have made valid criticisms he made cheap digs. I'm sympathetic to the view that we need to start seeing these games out, but there's a better way of making that point.

[Crosby87]

One thing I dont fully get is, is it most of the time that people in Ireland are either Rugby fans or Soccer fans? Some of the lads I know in the city here are this way.
Why is this?

[Acornvilla]

because their snobby idiots (goes for both sides)

[Crosby87]

But that tends to be the case acorn?

[Fixer82]

people seem to get very bogged down in this. I'm a huge fan of soccer, rugby and GAA but i've always playeed GAA and would be seen as a GAA man by certain people i know. why do we have to be put in these boxes? silly silly silly
especially when it seems most of the Irish soccer team are fans of both gaa (hurling and football) and rugby

[Crosby87]

Yeah Fix I was just curious. A lot of the young Irish I meet in NYC refuse to watch the world cup q's which boggles my mind. They only watch the Rugby. I was at the bar a couple of times with a game coming up in a few days and i was like, so where do you all watch the game? A bunch of us go to such and such...when they tell me they never watch i was dumbfounded. Youll sit in a bar on a random tuesday with the Mets on but wont come down on a sat to watch ireland fight for the WC? But you will find a place to watch Rugby at 6 AM? Crazy. The other Irish agreed with me BTW.
To me you either like sports or you dont. I mean its like the olympics, most of us dont know the first thing about, say, curling, but its easy to root for your country in it.
Anyway though I supose its better you are thought of as a GAA man than a GAY man.:D

[Colbert Report]

Yeah Fix I was just curious. A lot of the young Irish I meet in NYC refuse to watch the world cup q's which boggles my mind. They only watch the Rugby. I was at the bar a couple of times with a game coming up in a few days and i was like, so where do you all watch the game? A bunch of us go to such and such...when they tell me they never watch i was dumbfounded. Youll sit in a bar on a random tuesday with the Mets on but wont come down on a sat to watch ireland fight for the WC? But you will find a place to watch Rugby at 6 AM? Crazy. The other Irish agreed with me BTW.
To me you either like sports or you dont. I mean its like the olympics, most of us dont know the first thing about, say, curling, but its easy to root for your country in it.
Anyway though I supose its better you are thought of as a GAA man than a GAY man.:D


I'll try to explain this. I grew up in Ireland in the nineties. Jack Charlton was king and we all watched and played "soccer". Rugby was never dicussed amongst my classmates. As such, I don't watch it and have no time for it. I don't even know the basic rules of the game, and it doesn't interest me to learn them.

I have two cousins who live down in Cork and they don't watch soccer at all. They're big into the rugby though. It makes no sense.

[Noelys Guitar]

Keane was talking about Irish players and not Irish fans in this article in my opinion in relation to boozing. I believe the Times journo got it wrong. I don't believe Keane was having a dig at Irish footrball fans here. But he was again having a go at current Irish players and he is wrong (and being a prat of the highest order). I am still waiting on Keane to praise a current Irish player. Not a mention of Richard Dunne who is having an outstanding season. Win or lose we booze? Cliches and slogans from Keane. Clough was always original.

[bennocelt]

One thing I dont fully get is, is it most of the time that people in Ireland are either Rugby fans or Soccer fans? Some of the lads I know in the city here are this way.
Why is this?

Also got a lot to do where one is from. Dublin 4 or Ballymun? And more women tend to follow rugby:)

[janeymac]

Keane at it again to a degree this morning claiming Ireland fotballers have a "win or lose, hit the booze" mentality, unlike their rugby counterparts. He also says that Munster lost a Heineken Cup final through cheating.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article6962332.ece

Now hang, on. My recollection of that game isn't that clear. Munster had a scrum inside Leicester 22 in the dying minutes. They were 6 points down, no?

Yes, but it was a 5 m scrum and Munster were mincing (surprise, surprise) the Leicester scrum. Munster were in an attacking position (Ireland were defending against France). What Back did was very cynical - he couldn't lose as it was in the last minute and the worst that could have happened was that Munster would get a penalty which wasn't enough to win the game. Other thing is that Munster never complained that they were cheated, in fact Mick Galwey the captain at the time said that he wished Back had never admitted to cheating in the first place. He also said if a Munster player had gotten away with the same thing, they would be regarded as a hero. Comments from the players were that Leicester were better and deserved to win anyway - Munster were just not good enough.

[janeymac]

Keane was talking about Irish players and not Irish fans in this article in my opinion in relation to boozing. I believe the Times journo got it wrong. I don't believe Keane was having a dig at Irish footrball fans here.

I agree - he wasn't having a cut at Irish fans. I've read Ronan O'Gara's bio and the Munster players are very hard on themselves. Nothing less than 100% is tolerated. In a million years, I couldn't see Paul O'Connell sneaking off and organising a Christmas Party behind Declan Kidney back like Robbie has at Tottenham.

[Greenbod]

I agree - he wasn't having a cut at Irish fans. I've read Ronan O'Gara's bio and the Munster players are very hard on themselves. Nothing less than 100% is tolerated. In a million years, I couldn't see Paul O'Connell sneaking off and organising a Christmas Party behind Declan Kidney back like Robbie has at Tottenham.

You're right. Kidney is a professional and would have someone else organise it........not his captain.

[Stuttgart88]

In a million years, I couldn't see Paul O'Connell sneaking off and organising a Christmas Party behind Declan Kidney back like Robbie has at Tottenham.I agree, and it shows Keane and his teammates in a poor light regardless of how much was drunk.

[geysir]

“I have always felt with them we have come up short and always because we seem to settle for second best, and the ‘win or lose, hit the booze’ attitude of the Irish supporters,” he said.

Whatever way you look at that, he is having a "pop" at the fans.



'In that regard he sees Ireland’s football team heading backwards'
“I watched [Ireland’s game] against South Africa a few weeks ago [when Ireland beat the world champions] and in the last ten or 15 minutes that sheer determination to win was incredible. They are as professional an outfit as there is out there. They have surpassed the football team of a few years ago.

Scraping by South Africa at home in a friendly is a long way from beating them in a World Cup competition. The football team can do better but they are not going backwards.

[Crosby87]

And now he says Sparky should never have gone to Man City due to his Man U connections...
IS Roy footballs version of Simon Cowell? Is he ever not talking?

[amaccann]

Scraping by South Africa at home in a friendly is a long way from beating them in a World Cup competition. The football team can do better but they are not going backwards.

Ireland didn't scrape by South Africa - the scoreline belies our dominance in most areas of the field - and in rugby terms, the November internationals actually count for seeding in the World Cup (or rather, the 2008 matches did). The notion of rugby "friendlies" is non-existent, they are competitive test matches. If you're looking for friendlies in rugby, the Churchill Cup in America during the summer was more along the lines of a soccer friendly; Ireland played a B-squad against noted weak opposition; ironically it was a mini-tournament but was more of a "friendly" than the November Internationals.

Sorry a tad off topic there :)

More to the point, and regarding Roy Keane, he never shuts up because he's too dim to realise the endless parade of journalists are just looking for cheap copy to fill their papers with. They know by now Roy Keane'll have a pop at anyone and anything that doesn't meet his "standards" and make filling the back pages easy peasy.