Lansdowne Road Redevelopment Thread

[Kingdom]

off topic but where have tiktok and Karlos gone? Saw their names on the earlier parts of this thread.

[Kingdom]

does anyone have the specific dimensions of the stands? I looked on the Lansdowne website and couldn't find anything. It would be nice to think the home and away crowds will be at seperate ends.

[pete]

off topic but where have tiktok

Does not post of foot.ie any more i think. Stays on the other side of the Interweb.

[Kingdom]

Does not post of foot.ie any more i think. Stays on the other side of the Interweb.

What side is that!!? :D He was a good poster.

[pete]

What side is that!!? :D He was a good poster.

South West.

He was too good & so had to get rid of the competition.

[joe_barry80]

The West & East Stands taking shape nicely. Can't wait till it's finished

http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/photocategory.asp?PCID=34&NCID=68

[kingdomkerry]

Starting to take shape alright.

[irishultra]

Anyone have a good picture of what it will look like at completion?

[Razors left peg]

Anyone have a good picture of what it will look like at completion?

There are pics of the completed design on the website where the development pics are shown

[OwlsFan]

The West & East Stands taking shape nicely. Can't wait till it's finished

http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/photocategory.asp?PCID=34&NCID=68


The stand at the city end is tiny :confused: Just 3 rows of seats by the looks of things.

http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/singlecategory.asp?PCID=34

[ifk101]

The stand at the city end is tiny :confused: Just 3 rows of seats by the looks of things.

http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/singlecategory.asp?PCID=34

How can you see that from the above picture? :D

[Greenforever]

The stand at the city end is tiny :confused: Just 3 rows of seats by the looks of things.

http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/singlecategory.asp?PCID=34


The Havelock Square / North Terrace end, is a single tier stand due to planning restrictions, the rest of the ground is 3 tier.

Visiting supporters will be located in the Havelock Sq end.

[gspain]

The Havelock Square / North Terrace end, is a single tier stand due to planning restrictions, the rest of the ground is 3 tier.

Visiting supporters will be located in the Havelock Sq end.

I'd stick them up in the 3rd tier somewhere. Make both ends home ends to increase the atmosphere and increase home advantage.

[kingdomkerry]

I'd stick them up in the 3rd tier somewhere. Make both ends home ends to increase the atmosphere and increase home advantage.

A Singing section behind the other goal would be the job for maximising atmosphere.

[Sligo Hornet]

I'd stick them up in the 3rd tier somewhere. Make both ends home ends to increase the atmosphere and increase home advantage.

I'd leave them in Hill 16:D

[geysir]

Wait til the blackberry season starts, won't there be some spectacular patterns from
all the bird shít on that nice roof?

In picture 3
Is that Trapattoni out on the edge of his area?
are we playing right to left or left to right?

[Greenforever]

I'd stick them up in the 3rd tier somewhere. Make both ends home ends to increase the atmosphere and increase home advantage.


You can not have them in an area with home fans above or below and the area has to be easily segegated, making it the only feasible part of the ground.

I do however like the idea of leaving them in the Hill, no chance of a row:D:D:D

[OwlsFan]

That will be some job cleaning that canopy :D

[Macy]

You can not have them in an area with home fans above or below and the area has to be easily segegated, making it the only feasible part of the ground.
Of course you can - lots of grounds around the world do so.

[Greenforever]

Of course you can - lots of grounds around the world do so.

I could be wrong, buy I'm pretty sure that it is a FIFA or UEFA directive,
and in all the away games Ive been to we've never been over or below home fans.

[jbyrne]

I could be wrong, buy I'm pretty sure that it is a FIFA or UEFA directive,
and in all the away games Ive been to we've never been over or below home fans.

amsterdam 2000 we were above the dutch fans and away fans in lansdowne were often in the west lower. the north terrace is the most obvious place for away fans but having our own behind both goals would be ideal

[Greenforever]

amsterdam 2000 we were above the dutch fans and away fans in lansdowne were often in the west lower. the north terrace is the most obvious place for away fans but having our own behind both goals would be ideal


You've a great memory (musn't have been eating the funny cake), I remember being in the upper tier, but to be honest wasn't sure what was below, right behind the goal we were defending in the 2nd half, and a useless piece of information had almost identical seats for the last friendly there when Robbie scored the winner!

I think it's a long time since fans were in the west stand, up near the havelock sq end.

[jbyrne]

You've a great memory (musn't have been eating the funny cake), I remember being in the upper tier, but to be honest wasn't sure what was below, right behind the goal we were defending in the 2nd half, and a useless piece of information had almost identical seats for the last friendly there when Robbie scored the winner!

I think it's a long time since fans were in the west stand, up near the havelock sq end.

sorry, wasnt trying to be smart. just remember it cause it was just the best away atmosphere i ever experienced. cracking weekend!

[Greenforever]

sorry, wasnt trying to be smart. just remember it cause it was just the best away atmosphere i ever experienced. cracking weekend!


Not at all.

Best away athmospheres in GROUND in no particular order

Amsterdam 2000 2-2
Amsterdam 2003 (I think it was 03) 1 - 0
Anfield 1995 0 - 2

Strange all against the Dutch!!

[jbyrne]

Not at all.

Best away athmospheres in GROUND in no particular order

Amsterdam 2000 2-2
Amsterdam 2003 (I think it was 03) 1 - 0
Anfield 1995 0 - 2

Strange all against the Dutch!!

and best home v the dutch 2001 (1-0)!

[Lionel Ritchie]

Not at all.

Best away athmospheres in GROUND in no particular order

Amsterdam 2000 2-2
Amsterdam 2003 (I think it was 03) 1 - 0
Anfield 1995 0 - 2

Strange all against the Dutch!!

2004 ...Robbies goal

[irishultra]

Of course you can - lots of grounds around the world do so.

Yep was just watching a video of Polish fans chanting ''Ireland'' at the Northern Irish fans. They were in a lower tier(polish fans) looking up at the away Norn Iron fans.

[paul_oshea]

Yep was just watching a video of Polish fans chanting ''Ireland'' at the Northern Irish fans. They were in a lower tier(polish fans) looking up at the away Norn Iron fans.

HaHa what did the NI fans do?

[Greenforever]

HaHa what did the NI fans do?


If they were lie our near neighbour they probably would have thrown missiles below as in the famous Lansdowne Riot, the very reason why away fans here are never located above or below home fans.

[kingdomkerry]

Yep was just watching a video of Polish fans chanting ''Ireland'' at the Northern Irish fans. They were in a lower tier(polish fans) looking up at the away Norn Iron fans.

Is it on youtube?

[boovidge]

If they were lie our near neighbour they probably would have thrown missiles below as in the famous Lansdowne Riot, the very reason why away fans here are never located above or below home fans.

who was the idiot that decided to put the English "fans" there?

[Greenforever]

who was the idiot that decided to put the English "fans" there?

probably the same idiot that agreed to the friendly fixture in the first place

[kingdomkerry]

I think its fair to say the new Lansdowne will probably never see an Ireland England "friendly"

[Greenforever]

I think its fair to say the new Lansdowne will probably never see an Ireland England "friendly"


I reckon they will be invited to play soon after the ground is open, Trap has expressed his desire to play them and in fairness they have sorted out most of their problem on relation to who gets tickets, with their travel club.

I'd be very wary of trouble but still I reckon it's likely to happen.

[livehead1]

I dont think there would be that much trouble. Over in England its not seen as 'cool' to be Irish, everyone like's to claim to having an irish granny! Also, the probs in the North of subsided to a certain extent and this in turn has increased anglo-irish relations.

[irishultra]

I dont think there would be that much trouble. Over in England its not seen as 'cool' to be Irish, everyone like's to claim to having an irish granny! Also, the probs in the North of subsided to a certain extent and this in turn has increased anglo-irish relations.

Did you mean ''its seen as cool to be Irish''...it just the not didn't seem to fit in with the rest of the sentence.

[ShamrockIreland]

I reckon they will be invited to play soon after the ground is open, Trap has expressed his desire to play them and in fairness they have sorted out most of their problem on relation to who gets tickets, with their travel club.

I'd be very wary of trouble but still I reckon it's likely to happen.

Well I was at the game in 1991 when there were handbags when we drew 1-1 with them. I actually enjoyed that game though the wannabee English hardmen on O'Connell street after the game were a joke.

The 1995 version were sinister and very much over here to cause mayhem. I was around town leading up to and during the game and many white power nazi skinheads had travelled over. They situated the away supporters in the first game away from everyone and nobody could drop things on top of people. The second match where they were located was beyond ridiculous.

I'd like to play them again and continue our unbeaten record but I don't think it would do anybody any good to have away supporters here just to cause trouble. Lets hope if they do play its a good natured affair I cannot see it though.

[boovidge]

I'd like to play them again and continue our unbeaten record but I don't think it would do anybody any good to have away supporters here just to cause trouble. Lets hope if they do play its a good natured affair I cannot see it though.

I don't think you'd get the same trouble as in 1995 because the political situation is much better now.

[Razors left peg]

I was in the upper west stand around half way line that night so I wasnt far away from them animals and there is no way in hell I would invite the English team to play in a friendly over here again no matter how the political situation improved. There are still alot of Hooligan elements attached to club football in England especially in the lower leagues and you could be pretty much guaranteed that they would love the opportunity to come over here and cause mayhem again, if not in the stadium at least in the city

[EastTerracer]

I don't think you'd get the same trouble as in 1995 because the political situation is much better now.

Unfortunately many of the idiots who follow the English team around Europe (a significant minority I think it's fair to say) are not too concerned with current affairs. The events of the second world war fuel much of their hostility towards the Germans, Croatians, Italians etc. so I don't think the peace process in the North is going to change much.

I travelled to the world cup in 2006 as a neutral fan and found myself steering clear of the English mob on more than one occasion as they started their hate-filled chants about German bombers, no surrender and their long-faded empire. Although the English police have been very successful at moving trouble out of the domestic football grounds there is still a very nasty atmosphere surrounding the English national team away from home.

Ask any of the residents in Stuttgart -when England played there in July '06 there were glasses flying and riot police out in force, 3 months later all us Irish fans packed out the main square and held a party.

Having said all the above though we know the FAI won't think about all that if there's a chance to make a few bob:rolleyes:

[joe_barry80]

It's not only football that they sing those songs. I was watching a program on German TV about a man from England getting some money back from a holiday from Greece because there was to many Germans staying in the complex where he was staying.

So the German TV station sent a reporter to Magaluf in Majorca and tried the same thing in a hotel and he tried to talk to a few English tourists but as soon as they heard he was German they started singing all their War songs. It was really embarrassing to watch. There is part of that society in England who are just Knackers who have no idea about how the rest of the world has moved on from something that happened 60 years ago.

What's that other thing that happened 40 odd years ago that they still go on about??:rolleyes:

[Dodge]

What's that other thing that happened 40 odd years ago that they still go on about??:rolleyes:

You're right. No Irish song ever talks about the past....

[joe_barry80]

You are correct that we sing a lot about our history, but we don't do in a way to insult people.

[Dodge]

You are correct that we sing a lot about our history, but we don't do in a way to insult people.
Ah I see...

[paulie_walnuts]

I don't think you'd get the same trouble as in 1995 because the political situation is much better now.


The only reason you wouldn't get the same trouble is because Gardai and Police would be very much wise to the threat, nothing would get by anyone this time around. Personally I wouldn't have them over. Or restrict them to about 1000 tickets. They'll always have that element that just can't be trusted.

[John83]

It's not only football that they sing those songs. I was watching a program on German TV about a man from England getting some money back from a holiday from Greece because there was to many Germans staying in the complex where he was staying...
I don't know if this is the same case, but there was something like that recently. His complaint was that a number of the services they'd booked in advance (or been promised in the brochure) were only available in German (including a creché, I think). The complaint was reasonable. The coverage in the English tabloids wasn't.

[paul_oshea]

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhgbojeyqlcw

Good to see irony isn't lost on our northern brethren.....

[Schumi]

The only reason you wouldn't get the same trouble is because Gardai and Police would be very much wise to the threat, nothing would get by anyone this time around. Personally I wouldn't have them over. Or restrict them to about 1000 tickets. They'll always have that element that just can't be trusted.There's no point in restricting the tickets. The element looking for trouble would come anyway, they've more on their minds than football. You'd just end up with less sensible fans over.

[Macy]

The only reason you wouldn't get the same trouble is because Gardai and Police would be very much wise to the threat, nothing would get by anyone this time around.
The Gardai are crap at policing football. They're clueless. Every incident around grounds I can think of in the league here have an element of police incompetence - not keeping one set of fans in, not policing specific well known flash points etc. It's more of an issue than the behaviour of opposition fans imo - they'll only do what they'll get let.

[paul_oshea]

The Gardai are crap at policing football. They're clueless. Every incident around grounds I can think of in the league here have an element of police incompetence - not keeping one set of fans in, not policing specific well known flash points etc. It's more of an issue than the behaviour of opposition fans imo - they'll only do what they'll get let.

well to be honest, for the case of ireland v england there would be far more money and resources provided to combat this. EL games wouldn't have this presence due to money being provided by the clubs for garda resources.....:)