Brian Kerr appointed Faroe Islands manager

[bennocelt]

Think you're missing the point - they have played in the last fwe tournaments

Nah think ye have missed the point, cant win anything on stats - t and t game in the world cup stands out, oh yeah I watched it!

[geysir]

Tets has a birthday today? congratulations,
A fellow scorpion. no wonder he's deadly.

[bennocelt]

Lagerbäck's Sweden Career:

Euro 2000 group stages
WC 2002: Second Round (Won group containing England and Argentina)
Euro 2004: Quarter Final defeat to Holland
WC 2006: Second Round defeat to Germany
Euro 2008: Group stages
WC 2010: Failed to qualify behind Denmark and Portugal

All this achieved with only 2 star players in that era, Henke Larsson and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

In the same period as Sweden qualified for 5 tournaments, we qualified for one with a similar standard of players.

stats -argh
Brian Kerr so our most succesful winning manager and westlife better than the beatles
Come back to me with systems, formations, style of play, etc?
I would argue that Sweden always have decent players and during that period had some pretty solid defenders. Definitely always have them above ireland tbh (didnt they qualify again - who was there manager and dont goggle it please!!!?)

[Charlie Darwin]

Swedish players have the mentalitee to which Trap refers.

[French Toasht]

stats -argh
Brian Kerr so our most succesful winning manager and westlife better than the beatles
Come back to me with systems, formations, style of play, etc?
I would argue that Sweden always have decent players and during that period had some pretty solid defenders. Definitely always have them above ireland tbh (didnt they qualify again - who was there manager and dont goggle it please!!!?)

I live in Sweden, don't need to google it. They appointed former Rosenborg manager Erik Hamren as successor to Lagerbäck after the WC 2010 campaign. Of course stats are crucial, they qualify for every tournament AND play attractive football, contrary to your misgivings about their style of play. They hammered Bulgaria by 5 in Euro 2004, knocked Argentina out of WC 2002 and their proud claim to fame is in all their games against England, the English have never beaten them and they have handed out several beatings to the English.

You state their defence is their strongest asset. I'd tend to disagree. Playing with an aged Mellberg at the back and all Celtic fans will tell you Majstorovic is a liability. Also a number of their starters play in reletively mediocre leagues such as the domestic league, (Elfsborg's Anders Svensson, remember him?) Norway and Holland. Like I said already they have one star player, in Zlatan, who they are arguably better off without. I really like Ola Toivonen but is he much better than Long or Doyle, I'm not too sure.

You alluded to one poor game they had against Trinidad and Tobago in 2006, my incling is that, that may be the extent of your knowledge of Swedish football and have made a vast generalisation on that basis. Just a hunch.

[bennocelt]

I live in Sweden, don't need to google it. They appointed former Rosenborg manager Erik Hamren as successor to Lagerbäck after the WC 2010 campaign. Of course stats are crucial, they qualify for every tournament AND play attractive football, contrary to your misgivings about their style of play. They hammered Bulgaria by 5 in Euro 2004, knocked Argentina out of WC 2002 and their proud claim to fame is in all their games against England, the English have never beaten them and they have handed out several beatings to the English.

You state their defence is their strongest asset. I'd tend to disagree. Playing with an aged Mellberg at the back and all Celtic fans will tell you Majstorovic is a liability. Also a number of their starters play in reletively mediocre leagues such as the domestic league, (Elfsborg's Anders Svensson, remember him?) Norway and Holland. Like I said already they have one star player, in Zlatan, who they are arguably better off without. I really like Ola Toivonen but is he much better than Long or Doyle, I'm not too sure.

You alluded to one poor game they had against Trinidad and Tobago in 2006, my incling is that, that may be the extent of your knowledge of Swedish football and have made a vast generalisation on that basis. Just a hunch.

Some credit with that comeback -(funny u live in Sweden, nice ace:D) but as the next manager of Iceland that might give you an indication that he wasnt in the running to be the next manager of Man Utd. Iceland, please!
Too limited as a manager. Beating england in a major tournament isnt really a big deal. For all the championships havent really done much, plus was with Nigeria in their last world cup debacle, agree with Zlaton though.

[Kingdom]

Beating england in a major tournament isnt really a big deal.
Totally agree, we never, ever, talk about the one time we beat them.

[Stuttgart88]

I know. One fool I know even goes by an online username referring to that facile victory.

Kerr to NI, as Paul asks? Maybe, or maybe if Michael O'Neill goes to NI, Kerr or Cook will go to Tallaght?

PS: Today's UK Indie has an article on Michael O'Neill and Rovers, saying he's about to go to the NI job. He ruins the article by getting the whole GFA thing wrong though.

[bennocelt]

Totally agree, we never, ever, talk about the one time we beat them.

1988:D and they were and are still sh ite

to keep it back on topic (my fault i know:o), really hope Kerr holds out for something else as i like him a lot and cant really see myself cheering him on with norn iron - what other jobs are around out there? Thailand, india, qatar?

[geysir]

Bulgaria?

I see the heat is off MON's odds and he has eased out in the betting. Kerr's coming back with a late but cautious surge.

[Kingdom]

Bulgaria?

I see the heat is off MON's odds and he has eased out in the betting. Kerr's coming back with a late but cautious surge.

That's cause GSpain and his buddies have dusted the cobwebs off their wallets and backed the bould Brian.

[Not Brazil]

PS: Today's UK Indie has an article on Michael O'Neill and Rovers, saying he's about to go to the NI job. He ruins the article by getting the whole GFA thing wrong though.

Just a bit wrong.

"Since the Good Friday Agreement, Northern Irish Catholics have been allowed to play for the Republic: Darron Gibson and Marc Wilson have both done so"

Christ on a bike.:rolleyes:

PS.

I'd prefer Kerr to Michael O'Neill this time round.

[tetsujin1979]

Would you not take the day off from being deadly on your birthday? No doubt there's a twitter feed that needs following or something :-)I'd like to, but I have to be extra deadly on today of all days

Tets has a birthday today? congratulations,
A fellow scorpion. no wonder he's deadly.It is, and thank you. 32 today.

Nah think ye have missed the point, cant win anything on stats - t and t game in the world cup stands out, oh yeah I watched it!Stats don't win games, they win arguments

[French Toasht]

Trap gave an interview there tonight where he said the reason he left Faroes was nothing to do with money, rather it was to do with the unbelievable toal it was taking on his life. He described how he was spending too long away from Ireland in the Faroes, Denmark and Iceland scouting players and that it took a full days travel to get from Dublin to Torshavn.

He stated this was restricting his media opportunities in Ireland with RTE and Setanta. He also said that he could not see how he could bring the Faroes any further than the massive strides they have taken during his tenure in charge. He said the national federation were unwilling to invest to the neccessary extent required to push on to the next level.

I think this highlights Kerr is no longer interested in a job in the likes of India or Bulgaria as has been suggested. His next job will either be in the England or Ireland. He won't be looking beyond that I'd imagine.

[Kingdom]

Trap gave an interview there tonight where he said the reason he left Faroes was nothing to do with money, rather it was to do with the unbelievable toal it was taking on his life. He described how he was spending too long away from Ireland in the Faroes, Denmark and Iceland scouting players and that it took a full days travel to get from Dublin to Torshavn.

He stated this was restricting his media opportunities in Ireland with RTE and Setanta. He also said that he could not see how he could bring the Faroes any further than the massive strides they have taken during his tenure in charge. He said the national federation were unwilling to invest to the neccessary extent required to push on to the next level.

I think this highlights Kerr is no longer interested in a job in the likes of India or Bulgaria as has been suggested. His next job will either be in the England or Ireland. He won't be looking beyond that I'd imagine.

India? No....Bulgaria? He'd jump at it I'd reckon. Plenty of carriers fly to Sofia. Scouting of players would be handier too given enough have played in Germany traditionally.

[theworm2345]

Nah think ye have missed the point, cant win anything on stats - t and t game in the world cup stands out, oh yeah I watched it!
T&T vs Sweden boring? You sure you watched that match? I know quite a few Trinbagonians who would would certainly beg to differ. Hislop's saves, Cornell Glen's shot hitting the crossbar, and of course it was T&T's first ever World Cup match.

[Charlie Darwin]

Trap gave an interview there tonight where he said the reason he left Faroes was nothing to do with money, rather it was to do with the unbelievable toal it was taking on his life. He described how he was spending too long away from Ireland in the Faroes, Denmark and Iceland scouting players and that it took a full days travel to get from Dublin to Torshavn.
Wishful thinking?

Kerr has clearly said on TV a couple of times in the last couple of months that he was expecting to extend his Faroes contract. This sudden change of heart is... well, it's not surprising, but it certainly is interesting.

[TrapAPony]

Kerr not going North from Faroes



"The Northern Ireland one has been mentioned to me previously," he told RTÉ, "and I said in jest at the time that I would take it tomorrow — I wouldn’t be given it tomorrow!

"I said it in a way that I didn’t really mean it to take any legs at the time.

"When things settle down in the next couple of months after I’ve attended to some of the stuff I want to do around Ireland I might start looking for something again but I’m not going to in the short term."
(http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/kerr-not-going-north-from-faroes-172144.html)
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/kerr-not-going-north-from-faroes-172144.html

[bennocelt]

T&T vs Sweden boring? You sure you watched that match? I know quite a few Trinbagonians who would would certainly beg to differ. Hislop's saves, Cornell Glen's shot hitting the crossbar, and of course it was T&T's first ever World Cup match.

No you are right, I was just commenting from a Swedish point of view. Was sad to see a team like Sweden resorting to diving and falling around the box trying to win frees against Tnts honest football.

[bennocelt]

Stats don't win games, they win arguments

If you say so!:p

[dantheman]

Kerr not going North from Faroes


http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/kerr-not-going-north-from-faroes-172144.html[/URL]


I hope for his sake he isn't going north from the Faroes, jaysus those Faroes are cold enough loike without heading towards da Pole loike do you know what I mean...

[French Toasht]

Kerr having a bit of a stab at Trap today in the Irish Times.

“Years ago at a football conference the San Marino coach handed me a book, ‘Coaching High Performance Soccer by Giovanni Trapattoni’. Must take it down off the top shelf and blow the dust off it. Because if I ever get another coaching position maybe I'll change my ways. For starters, I'll cut back on all those matches I used to attend. The player meetings – especially the one to one chats? No need.”

[tetsujin1979]

typical of Kerr, almost everything he has written since his contract wasn't renewed at the end of the 2006 qualifiers has been laced with a poison pen

[gastric]

typical of Kerr, almost everything he has written since his contract wasn't renewed at the end of the 2006 qualifiers has been laced with a poison pen

On that basis the Ni job would have suited him!

[Crosby87]

yeah he rarely has anything positive to say. Didn't he offer to show Trap one of his opposing team binders? Estonia maybe? I suppose that was nice but Alas, Trap can only read in Italian and Kerr only eats it.

[Stuttgart88]

I wonder does Trap's book contain any chapters on losing the respect of the dressing room, surrendering leads cheaply, putting in limp passionless performances in must-win last group games and never actually qualifying for things? Probably not. Kerr's might though.

I used to really like the guy. Get over it Brian.

[jbyrne]

well theres 2 mins of my life wasted reading that pathetic piece. just one whinge and dig after another!
theres one thing far far more predictable than Traps tactics and thats brian kerrs whinge fest in the IT every time we have a match. what a bitter begrudging fool he has become

[geysir]

The article gets worse after that opening quote,
Now it's a 'fact' in Kerr's head, that Trap and Tardelli rule the roost with the humour of a North Korean prison guard.

'My fear is that a cold atmosphere from the management in an already boring, functional tactical approach may lead to problems.'

And Kerr proposes a truly bizarre tactical solution to that imagined problem

'From what I hear some loosening up and respect of Irish culture – yes, the singing and refuelling aspect – may be required. Otherwise, the bonuses will not be the only issue of discontent among the players.'

Here Kerr alludes to having a deep throat inside the camp, obviously a very dry deep throat :)

[Serb]

Must get that copy of `Qualifying for a Major Football Tournament` by Brian Kerr off the top shelf.

[geysir]

Trap's coaching manual should be updated to include his experiences with Ireland.
The title probably would have be renamed as well,
from 'Coaching High Performance Soccer' to 'Coaching High Performance Soccer and Irish Soccer'.

[Deckydee]

Pathetic

[jbyrne]

"Time to freshen up old script"

exactly Brian. please do

[seanfhear]

Kerr has proved by his utterances since he was relieved of his Irish duties that he was not up to the job.

Its not that easy to prove the FAI right but Kerr has done it with aplomb.

[AlaskaFox]

Today's addition to the Kerr column canon:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0301/1224312583189.html

[tetsujin1979]

the standout line for me there was that he hasn't seen the recent qualifiers. While I accept he was busy with the Faroes, and his various media duties, it's a strange statement from someone who's been connected with the Ireland setup for so long.
If it's true, then it does invalidate any of his previous criticisms of the team's performance, if he can't be bothered to watch the game to form his opinions, I can't be bothered to read them.

[tetsujin1979]

Off The Ball are having a series of guest presenters for their football hour from 9 to 10 last week and this week. Kerr is going to be on some night this week, should be interesting to see what he has to say.

[tetsujin1979]

Kerr is actually on tonight, so listen in after 9 to hear what he has to say

[tetsujin1979]

Listened back to Brian Kerr's slot on Monday night, mostly it was about managing the Irish underage sides, and St Pat's, with surprisingly little about managing the senior team. One thing he did mention was that he pushed for friendlies against higher ranked teams. When he took over, games had already been organised against Scotland and Norway, but he wanted the Czech Republic, Portugal, and then Brazil obviously came to Lansdowne Road.

When he was asked about the current side, he criticised Trapattoni for not including McClean in the original squad on the basis of him not knowing what Trapattoni "allegedly teaches on the training pitch" (direct quote from Kerr)

Also made a point of mentioning that he watched McClean "live" (as in - not on DVD) last weekend and met him for dinner afterwards

Richie Sadlier was on last night, and when asked about who he would start against Croatia, he said he'd stick with the existing team, because Trapattoni hasn't given enough of the fringe players time to prove what they can do. Which is a fair criticism in my opinion and the negative side of having a settled squad, and starting XI.

[Colbert Report]

Bernard Dunne was the guest tonight. He picked the same team as Trap with the sole exception of Walters instead of Doyle.