Eduardo

**jmurphyc** · 26/02/2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Roadend

So you say I don't watch football and yet aldo say Kuyt's non-challenge is a red. Good on you lad, any more pearls of wisdom?

You think that was a non-challenge??? Now I understand why you think that referees are too lenient with observations like that. Had Phil Neville not managed to jump away from Kuyt flying in then he could have been out for a long, long time. Kuyt's challenge was about as high as Phil Neville's knees and you're saying it's a non-challenge?

**Roadend** · 26/02/2008, 1:15 PM

You've never played football have you, it was a non-challenge full stop. Its people like you that are ruining football.

**jmurphyc** · 26/02/2008, 1:20 PM

Originally Posted by Roadend

You've never played football have you, it was a non-challenge full stop. Its people like you that are ruining football.

What's that supposed to mean? He went in with intent and could have broken someone's leg, it doesn't matter that Neville managed to get out of the way.It's people who go into challenges like maniacs that are ruining football. Do you think that football should come before the player's well being?

**Roadend** · 26/02/2008, 1:29 PM

You are only proving my point, i.e. you've never played football and you don't know what you are talking about but you like to pop out of the woodwork at a time like this a cry bloody murder. Retreat to your box for everyone's sake.

**jmurphyc** · 26/02/2008, 1:38 PM

Originally Posted by Roadend

You are only proving my point, i.e. you've never played football and you don't know what you are talking about but you like to pop out of the woodwork at a time like this a cry bloody murder. Retreat to your box for everyone's sake.

What? How have I proved your point? You don't seem to really have much of one at the moment and aren't answering my questions, just insulting me. Of course I've played football. I'd say pretty much everyone that posts on a football forum has. What on earth is the rest of that gibberish you're talking about though? I'm making a valid point. All I'm saying is that potentially dangerous tackles shouldn't go unpunished. Martin Taylor didn't seem to go in with intent but it was a very high tackle and these tackles can seriously injure players. Let me get this straight, you're telling me I'm ruining football because I'm saying that tackles that could end player's careers should get a red card?

**Roadend** · 26/02/2008, 2:46 PM

By going to ground at all there is the potential to break someones leg(taylor) so should all slide tackles be outlawed. By blocking a shot/clearence you have the potential to break a leg(Irwin) should all blocking be outlawed. By taking a direct free you have the ability to break an ankle(Riise) should direct frees be outlawed. Get a grip. Football has almost become non-contact as it is and because of a mixture of circumstances means one mis-timed tackle has resulted in a broken leg you have people like yourself clamouring for them to be outlawed. Nonsense.

**jmurphyc** · 26/02/2008, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by Roadend

By going to ground at all there is the potential to break someones leg(taylor) so should all slide tackles be outlawed. By blocking a shot/clearence you have the potential to break a leg(Irwin) should all blocking be outlawed. By taking a direct free you have the ability to break an ankle(Riise) should direct frees be outlawed. Get a grip. Football has almost become non-contact as it is and because of a mixture of circumstances means one mis-timed tackle has resulted in a broken leg you have people like yourself clamouring for them to be outlawed. Nonsense.

I'm not clamouring for sliding tackles to be outlawed. Can you point out to me where I mentioned this?

I too am upset that games are getting stopped a lot these days, but that is down to players diving. I didn't ask for all tackles to be outlawed, just high ones. There is no need to go in high when the ball is on the ground. These tackles are the only ones that I said should be outlawed. They are much more likely of causing damage to a player than your ridiculous examples.

I can only assume that my referring to Kuyt's challenge in the Everton game riled you due to you probably being a Liverpool fan judging by your previous posts.

**Armando** · 26/02/2008, 3:14 PM

Originally Posted by Roadend

By going to ground at all there is the potential to break someones leg(taylor) so should all slide tackles be outlawed. By blocking a shot/clearence you have the potential to break a leg(Irwin) should all blocking be outlawed. By taking a direct free you have the ability to break an ankle(Riise) should direct frees be outlawed. Get a grip. Football has almost become non-contact as it is and because of a mixture of circumstances means one mis-timed tackle has resulted in a broken leg you have people like yourself clamouring for them to be outlawed. Nonsense.

Are you saying Kuyts challenge was slide tackle

**inexile** · 26/02/2008, 3:36 PM

martin taylors tackle was not [B]very[B] high, it was a mistimed (fractionally) slightly high challenge and there did not appear to be any malice in the challenge, even if you look at it in real time from the original angle it does not look very bad, it just looks like one of a hundred mistimed challenges that occur in every game.

**Morbo** · 26/02/2008, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

I must have imagined Wenger last week excusing one of his players going out to get an opposition player? Or is that okay because Gallas didn't cause serious injury even though he deliberately went for the player, but Taylor did cause injury with a clumsy challenge? Or is Wenger just a total hypocrite?

Yes you must have imagined it alright, I remember Eboue going in dirty alright, sure you're not just confusing the two?

**Rovers fan** · 26/02/2008, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by dfx-

Still the worst offence in the Premiership yet goes to Michael Ball (?) on Mendes at Manchester City. Easily forgotten in such outrage like today

dont think thatchers tackle will be easily forgotten, it was horrific.

**feo123** · 27/02/2008, 12:18 AM

its annoying aswell though that petrov will get the same ban as taylor for what he done last night, i wouldnt even call it a kick at the everton player, smaller than the slightest of contacts with him and he gets 3 games just like taylor. not saying taylor deserves more than 3 games btw, but just seems a bit silly, maybe im wrong

**Greenforever** · 27/02/2008, 7:25 AM

Originally Posted by feo123

its annoying aswell though that petrov will get the same ban as taylor for what he done last night, i wouldnt even call it a kick at the everton player, smaller than the slightest of contacts with him and he gets 3 games just like taylor. not saying taylor deserves more than 3 games btw, but just seems a bit silly, maybe im wrong

Agreed, a 1 match ban for a straight red should be the normal and any extra bans only based only on a disciplinary hearing.

Also it may be an idea to have a citing commissioner similar to Rugby who could deal with offences missed by the referee.

**Macy** · 27/02/2008, 7:27 AM

Originally Posted by Morbo

Yes you must have imagined it alright, I remember Eboue going in dirty alright, sure you're not just confusing the two?

No, Gallas kicked Nani - Wenger said it was all Nani's fault for being too skillful, the FA saw nothing.

**shakermaker1982** · 27/02/2008, 2:40 PM

Feel very sorry for the lad - I have been away for the past few days but heard it was a nasty break and hope he makes a speedy recovery. I don't think the tackle was premeditated though, a mistimed clumsy tackle and not worthy of a life ban.

Haha about Gallas. Can someone tell me how he escaped further action after he kicked out at Nani which was premeditated?

**cheifo** · 27/02/2008, 3:11 PM

Gallas needs to kop on.Even as an Arsenal fan I have to admit Fergie is better at keeping players in line.Arsenal have to beat Villa at the weekend or their season could fall apart.This season Man U have come a cropper when you least expect them too(Bolton,Man City,West Ham etc) but I cant see Fulham getting anything.

**NeilMcD** · 01/03/2008, 10:13 PM

Makele's tackle today was worse that Taylors should he be banned for 9 months too.

**dfx-** · 02/03/2008, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by Rovers fan

dont think thatchers tackle will be easily forgotten, it was horrific.

Nah not bad really...

**NeilMcD** · 02/03/2008, 12:58 AM

absolute thuggery, I am not one for this type of comment but I would nearly think he should have been charged for that. It was a disgrace. I don't ever understand it. Where does the motivation to do that come from. I can understand a lash out or possibly Keanes twisted revenge but that was just insane.