New Irish manager

**Jerry The Saint** · 19/10/2007, 11:10 AM

WANTED: New Soccer manager for the Republic of Ireland team.

Successful Applicant requirements:

(A) As a minimum, he must have a proven track record of managerial experience of top club level in England/Europe.

Why the need for the redundant bit in bold

Tells you everything about the attitude to the game in this country.

(C) Have a few medals and achievements on his CV as a player and/or manager.

I would have thought people have learned the difference at this stage - what did Wenger, Mourinho acheive as a player? A lot less than Staunton. I'll be disgusted if we still need to give this bunch of overpaid players one of their childhood heroes to keep them motivated. "Show my your medals!" indeed.

**eelmonster** · 19/10/2007, 11:20 AM

What about Lawrie Sanchez?

**tomred23** · 19/10/2007, 11:20 AM

Would Chris Hughton be a good mananger, as i am sure the FAI will pay the big bucks for a manager with a proven track record and with the mess at spurs at the moment he might not have a job soon.

**Ordinary Fan** · 19/10/2007, 11:22 AM

The first thing to do is to draw up a list of the people who should not get the job with Bryan Robson top of that list, followed by Peter Reid and big fat Ron.

Steve Coppel is getting loads of space, even though he has no european manageral experience and walked ot of Man City after 40 days due to stress. With the FAI and the glory boys in the Irish setup he would hardly last a week.

Strangly I think the Irish Job would be quite attractive, as everyone is at such a low ebb at the moment a new manager would be welcomed with open arms. There is a good nucleus that a good manager could exploite without setting the world alight.
The problem is that manay of the better suggestions would have to be approached as they would not apply for the job.

Anyone who is to be considered for the role should give details of their coaching staff, this is the area which contributed to Stans problems with tactics and organisation. The manager is the focus of the media but it is often the coaching staff who have the biggest impact on the players.

**tomred23** · 19/10/2007, 11:26 AM

I do not think any manager in charge of a permiership team is going to leave their post to take the Irelang job, it would be a drop in wages. We have to be looking at a out of work manager. I agree that the FAI should approach the managers.

**R�iteoir** · 19/10/2007, 11:30 AM

I demand the managerial dream team of Roddy Collins and Sean Connor - with Gareth Farrelly as Motivational and Fitness Coach

Failing that - Graham Taylor or John Barnes

**lofty9** · 19/10/2007, 11:37 AM

Don't be expecting any big names to be interviewed. It'll be someone cheap and cheerful again. To be honest it has to be someone that is currently employed though, so the FAI will have to pay some compo. All those out of work are out of favour for this job IMO except Jewell (who'll be at Bolton). O'leary, Aldridge, Graham etc - not for me, Houllier too expensive for the FAI. If we are being realistic with costs, I wouldn't mind someone like George Burley being approached. He did enough at Ipswich and Hearts for me, at Southampton I think he's doing ok considering finances there.

**Stuttgart88** · 19/10/2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by tomred23

Would Chris Hughton be a good mananger, as i am sure the FAI will pay the big bucks for a manager with a proven track record and with the mess at spurs at the moment he might not have a job soon.

I've always felt that if Kerr was criticised for poor substitutions and intra game tactical responses then Hughton has to be culpable too.

**Drumcondra 69er** · 19/10/2007, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I've always felt that if Kerr was criticised for poor substitutions and intra game tactical responses then Hughton has to be culpable too.

No so. He was a number 2, totally different, he's there to support and suggest but the decision always rests with the manager. Not that I'm touting O'Leary but look at the difference in the style of football played at Leeds under George Graham with O'Leary as his number 2 and that played when DOL took over.

However, Hughton has no experience of managing in his own right and much as I'm a fan of him as a coach should not be considered for the top job for a second. We need experience to move us on from the current fiasco.

**citizenerased** · 19/10/2007, 12:14 PM

we really need to be offering a salary of 1m+, that is standard of international football considering the less day to day work involved...i think international management would suit houllier..bit of pocket money for him..feck the ex ireland pro route...road to nowhere imho

**Nipper** · 19/10/2007, 12:17 PM

I think we should give it to Paul Dempsey from Setanta. With Jamie Redknapp as his assistant.

**Noelys Guitar** · 19/10/2007, 12:18 PM

At least half the Irish football community would be put on suicide watch if O'Leary got the job. Pure bookies nonsense putting him at 2-1. Nor will the likes of Aldridge get a look in. As I suggested yesterday the way to go is to ask the Wenger's, Brady's, Hiddinks, Mourinho's for advice on picking the new manager. Beenhakker and hodsgon have to be considered for their records as international managers. Of those in jobs then Burley, Copell, Coleman, and John Collins are posibilites. Out of work then Jewell, Gullitt and yes O'leary but I hope not.

**Stuttgart88** · 19/10/2007, 12:20 PM

None of our esteemed ex-players (or even ordinary ones) have made the grade really in management. O'Leary did OK for a while, Aldo did OK but a long time back. Houghton quit coaching at Palace cos he said the young kids' attitude was terrible. Hughton has always been a number 2. Sheridan seems to be doing ok but a long way short of being an international manager. Keane seems to be doing well and McCarthy is doing a good job IMHO.

The Scots seem to have no shortage of decent managers at a good level. Strachan, Smith, McLeish, Moyes, Burley, Sir Alex of course...

**NeilMcD** · 19/10/2007, 12:22 PM

Totally agree with you Noely both you and you guitar are right.

**Sligo Hornet** · 19/10/2007, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

FAI can't afford O'Leary. He's yesterday's man any. Plus, Leeds are still paying him.

Surely that stopped once they went into administration and the new Company were formed by Bates?....can't see Uncle Ken paying NOW for others past mistakes!

**RogerMilla** · 19/10/2007, 12:34 PM

not to mention FAI are sitting on a pile of cash , they could afford anyone

**Wolfie** · 19/10/2007, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

At least half the Irish football community would be put on suicide watch if O'Leary got the job. Pure bookies nonsense putting him at 2-1. Nor will the likes of Aldridge get a look in. As I suggested yesterday the way to go is to ask the Wenger's, Brady's, Hiddinks, Mourinho's for advice on picking the new manager. Beenhakker and hodsgon have to be considered for their records as international managers. Of those in jobs then Burley, Copell, Coleman, and John Collins are posibilites. Out of work then Jewell, Gullitt and yes O'leary but I hope not.

You can sing that one in G minor, Noely.

The ex player with limited / zero experience and achievement is not whats required.

**RogerMilla** · 19/10/2007, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

�1.7m was his pay off. Maybe he can advise Staunton on how to get piles of money for being utterly inept.

no he cant , stan seems to know how to that already !

**geysir** · 19/10/2007, 12:57 PM

The doubt about a Johnny Foreigner is that they could be inclined to move on fast enough.
Hard to tell, even with a manager like Sven, excellent with Gothenburg, cautious with England and now supposedly reborn, a revelation at Man City so far.
I had to laugh at what Ray Houghton was saying about his ears being sore at the end of a game having to listen at all the bollocking directed at him by about 6 of the players to get into position, to close down to pass the ball properly etc.
His point being that even a good manager needs players on the pitch to direct the game and that's whats seriously lacking in our team (obvious when without Carsley).
Ray doesn't rate the new generation at all

**Wolfie** · 19/10/2007, 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

I had to laugh at what Ray Houghton was saying about his ears being sore at the end of a game having to listen at all the bollocking directed at him by about 6 of the players to get into position, to close down to pass the ball properly etc.
His point being that even a good manager needs players on the pitch to direct the game and that's whats seriously lacking in our team (obvious when without Carsley).
Ray doesn't rate the new generation at all

Something discussed previously but worth reiterating that Houghton was among a group of players who displayed a maturity, commitment and "moral courage" that has not been present within the team for the last 5 to 6 years.

I can always recall how the likes of Townsend, Houghton, Moran etc often cajoled and demanded more effort from the players around them in an Ireland shirt. They were all committed to the cause.