Dida Tonight

[Cymro]

We can't prove he wasn't hurt in the most basic sense of the word but we can basically prove that he was simulating a major inujry because he started running after the fan and then two or three seconds later realised 'oh no I'm 'hurt' I'd better fall down and hold my face'. If he'd actually been seriously hurt he would have just fallen down on the spot without trying to chase after the idiot.

As such I fully support the above charges being brought against him. The man was being a grade A f*ckwit and if UEFA let him off they would be basically saying that simulation is OK.

[Jerry The Saint]

we can basically prove that he was simulating a major inujry because he started running after the fan and then two or three seconds later realised 'oh no I'm 'hurt' I'd better fall down and hold my face'. If he'd actually been seriously hurt he would have just fallen down on the spot without trying to chase after the idiot.

Not necessarily.

Bill: And so began the legend of Pai Mei's five-point-palm-exploding-heart technique.
The Bride: And what, pray tell, is the five-point-palm-exploding-heart technique?
Bill: Quite simply, the deadliest blow in all of martial arts. He hits you with his fingertips at five different pressure points on your body. And then he lets you walk away. But after you've taken five steps, your heart explodes inside your body, and you fall to the floor, dead.

Most rational explanation I've heard so far anyway.

[strangeirish]

as a matter of interest what punishment would you feel would be fair?

Send Liam Miller back from Sunderland

[Cymro]

Not necessarily.

You don't seriously believe that Dida was inflicted with the 'Death Touch'? Look, if that had been the case, he'd have collapsed immediately. He wouldn't have been running after the fan and apparently in good health one second and then collapsed the next. It was clearly simulation.

I assume you're being sarcastic there.

[Dodge]

You don't seriously believe that Dida was inflicted with the 'Death Touch'? Look, if that had been the case, he'd have collapsed immediately. He wouldn't have been running after the fan and apparently in good health one second and then collapsed the next. It was clearly simulation.

I assume you're being sarcastic there.

[John83]

You don't seriously believe that Dida was inflicted with the 'Death Touch'? Look, if that had been the case, he'd have collapsed immediately. He wouldn't have been running after the fan and apparently in good health one second and then collapsed the next. It was clearly simulation.

I assume you're being sarcastic there.

No, Jerry's dead serious. Very serious guy. Expert on Chinese death grips too.

[osarusan]

You don't seriously believe that Dida was inflicted with the 'Death Touch'? Look, if that had been the case, he'd have collapsed immediately. He wouldn't have been running after the fan and apparently in good health one second and then collapsed the next. It was clearly simulation.

I assume you're being sarcastic there.

oh dear...........smilie time. (or watch Kill Bill vol. 2)

But I have to disagree with people who say that the fact he wasn't knocked down instantly "proves" he wasn't injured. As an ex-boxer (a pretty bad one) I have had personal experience with delayed impact of a punch, and on rare glorious occasions, I've caused delayed impact knockdowns. It is possible.

Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% certain Dida was not injured, and went down by choice for his own interests, but it cannot be "proven" that he was not injured.Milan could even argue he was temporarily incapacitated by being shocked by what had gone on. (Bullsh!t of course, but difficult to argue against)

It would be wrong, in my opinion, to take action after an incident where physical contact (however minimal) has been made. It should not become an issue of opinion as to whether contact could have caused an injury or not.

[geysir]

but it cannot be "proven" that he was not injured.

Dida is in the Dock.
At this stage he has to prove that he was injured and had good reason to collapse in a heap and that he needed to be carted off on a stretcher with an ice pack.
His only defence can be that he was following medical advice. If the team doctor gives evidence and is able to hold a straight face, Dida has a chance of clearing the rap.

[Armando]

Dida gets 2 match ban

Celtic fined €35,000 (half of which is suspended)

...just about right I feel.

[drinkfeckarse]

Celtic can count themselves lucky IMO. Paltry fine as usual from UEFA. Dida deserved his ban although I didn't think it would stick but I thought Celtic would be hit harder in the pocket.

[galwayhoop]

Celtic can count themselves lucky IMO. Paltry fine as usual from UEFA. Dida deserved his ban although I didn't think it would stick but I thought Celtic would be hit harder in the pocket.

i don't think its true that Celtic are lucky. if you think about it had Dida not over-exageratted the 'injury' then Celtic would only ever have got a fine around that figure for an incident like that.

Personally I'm amazed that UEFA have acted this way as it seems a logical and thought out solution to the incident. amazing stuff.

btw - i presume dida will get his ban overturned on appeal but it doesn't matter anyway as he is sh1te!!!!

[Bottle of Tonic]

Yeah wasn't expecting such a rational decision either. Dida will probably not have to serve two games, coming more in line with what i thought the original decison would be, but it's a strong and positive message from UEFA that they can hand down such a sentance to the Euro champs goalie.
The Lithuanian incident against Scotland recently probably went under the radar for alot of people (players too it seems) and it's great UEFA have kept their standards up and are sending out a message crystal clear about the consequences of simulation or whatever its called these days.
Not surprised with the relatively small fine. It's still a bit bigger than other fines recently handed out to other sides for crowd trouble - spain crowd racist monkey noises , rangers rioting at osasuna etc. Don't have the figures stored in me head but think they always hand out pretty tiny fines anyway.
Hope Aberdeen don't get hammered for their flare in the Ukraine. They really can't afford it.

[drinkfeckarse]

Not arguing it's a very rational decision because it's refreshing as you say. I just think in the context if things the fine was small. Poor security afterall. Not that I'm complaining about it.

[geysir]

Delaney could apply for a job with Uefa and work wonders for their coffers.

The fine is a bit above standard for a lone pitch incursion.
That's all Celtic were charged with.
It's encouraging that Uefa completly rejected the idea beforehand that Dida was in any way harmed.