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    There’s been persistent rumours that Liverpool are trying to sign Marmadashvili from Valencia as a long term replacement for Allison,if that happens you’d probably see Kelleher moving on….
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Linked with a £30m move to Juve in a couple of the tabloids over the weekend. Szczesny is moving on and they've brought in di Gregorio from Monza.

    Probably tabloid talk - club needing a keeper linked with a keeper needing a move - but it'd be a fantastic move if it came off
    Id put that up there with the Evan Ferguson to Man Utd chatter over the weekend, Id love it but cant see it happening
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    There’s been persistent rumours that Liverpool are trying to sign Marmadashvili from Valencia as a long term replacement for Allison,if that happens you’d probably see Kelleher moving on….
    The rumours I saw were that they wanted to sign Marmadashvili and then loan him back until Allison moved on.

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    If Juventus are actually serious about Kelleher then should maybe hear some noise now that they've officially terminated Wojciech Szcz?sny's contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    If Juventus are actually serious about Kelleher then should maybe hear some noise now that they've officially terminated Wojciech Szcz?sny's contract.
    If you put his name into Twitter there’s a lot of goodbyes being said to him,appears he might be retiring so maybe there is something in the Kelleher links ….

    In fact it’s all there …..

    Last edited by joey B; 13/08/2024 at 6:41 PM.
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    If this is true and Kelleher isn’t pushing to leave this summer the questions over his ambition will only grow,clearly has no future at Liverpool if that’s what is happening……
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post


    If this is true and Kelleher isn’t pushing to leave this summer the questions over his ambition will only grow,clearly has no future at Liverpool if that’s what is happening……
    If this is true then that bad news for Travers and Kelleher all in one transfer

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    If this is true then that bad news for Travers and Kelleher all in one transfer
    Not for Kelleher as he's out of there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAD View Post
    Not for Kelleher as he's out of there.
    He might not be though until.next summer as pool will still need a top second choice keeper for this season and I can't see that been jaros

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAD View Post
    Not for Kelleher as he's out of there.

    I'll believe Kelleher is out of there when he is actually 3 months playing for a new club. Every off season we think this will be the year that he finally moves and gets some 1st team football and every season we are let down. If the Juventus links are actually true then that is a dream transfer that everyone should be buzzing about but I just have a hard time believing it just yet
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    He might not be though until.next summer as pool will still need a top second choice keeper for this season and I can't see that been jaros
    Well it will have to be Jaros as Kelleher has made it clear he wants to move, that's probably why Liverpool want Mamukashvili in for next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    I'll believe Kelleher is out of there when he is actually 3 months playing for a new club. Every off season we think this will be the year that he finally moves and gets some 1st team football and every season we are let down. If the Juventus links are actually true then that is a dream transfer that everyone should be buzzing about but I just have a hard time believing it just yet
    Reading all his interviews he seems adamant that he wants to leave. What we are seeing here is Liverpool making sure they are prepared for life after Kelleher so when he moves on they have an alternate ready. I suspect the plan all along was eventually Kelleher would replace Becker when he moves on but now that this looks like its foiled Liverpool need to act to make sure they have a top keeper ready for when the day Becker leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAD View Post
    Reading all his interviews he seems adamant that he wants to leave. What we are seeing here is Liverpool making sure they are prepared for life after Kelleher so when he moves on they have an alternate ready. I suspect the plan all along was eventually Kelleher would replace Becker when he moves on but now that this looks like its foiled Liverpool need to act to make sure they have a top keeper ready for when the day Becker leaves.
    The boy who cried wolf. We've heard it all before. Lets see some action before we get excited.
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAD View Post
    Reading all his interviews he seems adamant that he wants to leave. What we are seeing here is Liverpool making sure they are prepared for life after Kelleher so when he moves on they have an alternate ready. I suspect the plan all along was eventually Kelleher would replace Becker when he moves on but now that this looks like its foiled Liverpool need to act to make sure they have a top keeper ready for when the day Becker leaves.
    If liverpool wanted Kelleher to replace Allison they could have loaned Kelleher to Bournemouth and brought him.back next summer when Allison was leaving,

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    I think there’s different ways of viewing this. it’s all a bit weird.

    - First weird thing was that Alisson got a lot of extra time off, compared to all the other players. He was the last to return and was about 8-10 days later than he was due back. Not sure what the deal was there but it isn’t normal.
    - Kelleher as a result played a lot during pre-season. Playing on the 27th, 1st, 4th and 11th conceding 1 goal across 4 games and playing really well. Further proof that he’s a very good keeper and capable of playing for a high level team
    - Adrian left this summer, so Liverpool need to replace their third keeper. Jaros is now an international keeper and is at the very least a good backup keeper. So if Kelleher were to stay then it would be Alisson followed by Kelleher followed by Jaros.
    - Adrian did an interview where he basically said that he hoped Kelleher would prioritise himself and what was best for his career.
    - I think the big question relates to Alisson. His contract lasts till 2027, so three more years. He rejected a huge offer from Saudi cause he wanted to stay at Liverpool this summer
    - There’s an implication that Mamardashvili will go on loan this year to Bournemouth and then take over from Alisson next season.
    - Are Liverpool going to force Alisson out? Can’t see that. Maybe there’s a deal done with Alisson to let him go next year to Saudi for whatever amount
    - But maybe Alisson plans to see out his contract, and maybe Liverpool know they can’t keep Kelleher on the hook till 2027 and instead focus on an elite keeper who is younger than him and plan to loan him for 1-2 years and then see how he does, while including a buyback clause for Kelleher in 2027 if they decide for him over GM
    - Maybe Kelleher has already agreed with the club that they’ll let him go and this move is essentially related to Kelleher getting his move (if Alisson gets a bad injury next week, they could recall GM from loan but if Kelleher is sold and they don’t have another keeper signed, they’re more royally screwed
    - Maybe no one has come in for Kelleher, before the Juve link, Celtic were the only link I can remember and frankly, Celtic aren’t able to afford him and Kasper S is a much more realistic signing
    - There’s also a chance that with Klopp leaving that Liverpool have really ****ed Kelleher over. Klopp was certainly of the opinion that Caoimhin was the heir apparent to Alisson and maybe with the data people having a greater say (Klopp used to say that the first and last call had to be his). And I don’t think Slot has anywhere near as much control
    - The sale of Bobby Clark is another sign of this. A player who Klopp loved and would never have sanctioned the sale of - Liverpool have cashed in very early on him (£10m + a sell on clause).
    - I feel like Liverpool had an excellent balance of good scouting with data behind it and a manager who knew what he was doing and what the squad needed. Kept a relatively small squad and gave opportunities to kids as a result but were also happy to dig into their pockets when needed.
    - It’s all very weird and best case scenario Liverpool are hedging their bets and will decide in 2027 between buying back Kelleher, or using GM or seeing how Jaros develops as a No.2 over the next year or two
    - Worst case scenario, they’ve strung him along for years and the moment Klopp leaves, they basically give up on him as a future No.1

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    I'd lean towards worst case scenario because why not loan Kelleher to Bournemouth for a year or two if you were gonna bring him back once Allison leaves if that's the case. Could always find an experienced no.2 to cover while Kelleher is on loan.
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    Slap in the face, kick in the nuts.... whatever way you want to put it this is a clear signal to Kelleher that his years sitting and waiting to become first choice at Liverpool have been wasted. Again shows that there is no loyalty in football and players should look after themselves first at every opportunity. Time for him to stop playing nice and force his way out of that club
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    I don’t have any sympathy for Kelleher if he feels like he’s being shafted,should have left before now,personally think he could be playing week in week out for another top flight side in England or somewhere in Europe but he didn’t force the issue,Slot or the other parts of the football operation don’t owe him any loyalty,they’ve only just arrived….
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    I don’t have any sympathy for Kelleher if he feels like he’s being shafted,should have left before now,personally think he could be playing week in week out for another top flight side in England or somewhere in Europe but he didn’t force the issue,Slot or the other parts of the football operation don’t owe him any loyalty,they’ve only just arrived….
    I agree, he should have been out of there ages ago and this proves it. Theres not a massive market for him now. Hes mid 20s with very little football played and yet Liverpool want 20 Million + for him supposedly. The fact that hes never even gone on loan to play first team football for a season at his age is staggering.
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Was he really staying there thinking he was going to get the jersey one day after Alisson goes - I'd doubt it. They were always going to bring someone else in, he must have known that. He's a very rare case of a soon to be 26 year old footballer who has hardly played any first team football. It's not surprising that nobody wants to pay £25m for that. He's been let down by Liverpool, but maybe he shouldn't have been so quick to sign a long term contract without guarantees of first team football at a good level on loan.

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