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    No appearances for Celtic at all I think since they were proclaimed champions. Anyone know why? Thought he’d have gotten a few appearances for sure but doesn’t seem to even be on the bench lately. Is he injured?

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    Injured apparently and interesting that he hasn't signed a new contract yet which expires in 12 months unless Celtic have the option of extending it by a year.

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    Scored Celtic B's only goal in a 3-1 loss to East Kilbride in the Scottish Challenge Cup yesterday
    Goal here at 2:33

    Sort of interesting that he's wearing number 9
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on mastodon, BlueSky and facebook

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    Looks to be on his way out of Celtic.


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    Would be great for his prospects of making it as a footballer if he escapes that hell hole for youth. There’s simply no plausible development pathway at Celtic

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    Scored for Celtic B tonight against East Kilbride in the Lowland League.

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    Scores his first senior goal - kind of - tonight.

    Against non-league Buckie Thistle in the Cup. They play at the same level as Celtic's reserves (though Celtic are Lowland league and Buckie are Highland)

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    Thought Rodgers comments after the game were telling in terms of how Celtic view youth development. Basically saying he doesn't need Vata playing for the first team until he's 20 or 21, and if he feels he should be playing first team football sooner than that he should just leave.

    And then they wonder why their youth players never amount to anything any more, they expect them to just turn up ready for first team football at 21, having only played in the Lowland League up to that point.

    I honestly think that Evan Ferguson might be playing Lowland League football today if he'd picked Celtic instead of Brighton. With Rodgers in press conferences saying that he sees potential in him but he's still a few years away from the first team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Thought Rodgers comments after the game were telling in terms of how Celtic view youth development. Basically saying he doesn't need Vata playing for the first team until he's 20 or 21, and if he feels he should be playing first team football sooner than that he should just leave.

    And then they wonder why their youth players never amount to anything any more, they expect them to just turn up ready for first team football at 21, having only played in the Lowland League up to that point.

    I honestly think that Evan Ferguson might be playing Lowland League football today if he'd picked Celtic instead of Brighton. With Rodgers in press conferences saying that he sees potential in him but he's still a few years away from the first team.
    It's kind of a strange attitude/policy, when you think about it. With the amount of games Celtic play where they have the points wrapped up by the final quarter, you'd think they'd have plenty opportunities to give young players a chance to prove themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by samhaydenjr View Post
    With the amount of games Celtic play where they have the points wrapped up by the final quarter,
    You haven't seen Celtic much this season then

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_c12000 View Post
    Would be great for his prospects of making it as a footballer if he escapes that hell hole for youth. There’s simply no plausible development pathway at Celtic
    Why does he only have 1 U21 cap if he's good enough to be playing senior first team football for Celtic?? Is Ireland underage a hell hole for youth?

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    If he is good enough ~ Wealthier clubs than Celtic will tempt him away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    If he is good enough ~ Wealthier clubs than Celtic will tempt him away.
    If he's good enough, why the lack of U21 caps??

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    Rudi Vata on Rocco's international future - it's his decision
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    Quote Originally Posted by weldoninhio View Post
    Why does he only have 1 U21 cap if he's good enough to be playing senior first team football for Celtic?? Is Ireland underage a hell hole for youth?
    Because there are very few under 21 games relative to club games and he's up against two older players in Armstrong (a senior cap) and Emakhu who are getting decent first team minutes at their clubs, unlike Vata. Having said that, Crawford picking Johnny Kenny over him has just been a poor management call.

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    BBC Scottisg Gossip section today:

    Celtic winger Rocco Vata, who is out of contract this summer, will turn his back on offers from Serie A clubs to sign a new deal, with father Rudi, the former Celtic full-back, confident there will be a "positive outcome" to talks about the 18-year-old's future. (Scottish Sun)

    Celtic have begun contract talks with winger Rocco Vata's representatives and the 18-year-old Republic of Ireland Under-21 international is keen to extend his stay beyond the summer despite holding talks with Bologna and Como this month. (Sky Sports)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68070957

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    BBC Scottisg Gossip section today:

    Celtic winger Rocco Vata, who is out of contract this summer, will turn his back on offers from Serie A clubs to sign a new deal, with father Rudi, the former Celtic full-back, confident there will be a "positive outcome" to talks about the 18-year-old's future. (Scottish Sun)

    Celtic have begun contract talks with winger Rocco Vata's representatives and the 18-year-old Republic of Ireland Under-21 international is keen to extend his stay beyond the summer despite holding talks with Bologna and Como this month. (Sky Sports)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68070957
    I think if he is to stay at Celtic his agent (is it his dad) should probably include a clause about going out on loan to get first team football.

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    According to 'The Athletic' (whose story is being repeated elsewhere) Watford are interested in young Vata.

    https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/s...offer-28767816

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demesne Lad View Post
    According to 'The Athletic' (whose story is being repeated elsewhere) Watford are interested in young Vata.

    https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/s...offer-28767816
    no offence to the guy but if that's the type of club going for him i wouldn't hold out too much hope of him making it at the top level.

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    He's 18!

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