QuoteDid we have any other serious option at the time ?Originally Posted by Jd2793
randolph was 1st choice in 20/21 when he was a sub gk for west ham. he was a sub in 15/16 and irelands no1 in that time aswell.
Did we have any other serious option at the time ?
It's time ( well, next season now, I suppose ) to go and compete at a club where he has a realistic chance of being the number 1 goal-keeper.
It will be interesting to see if there is much interest, and where it is from, when the next transfer / loan season opens ?
Last edited by seanfhear; 07/03/2023 at 11:40 AM.
people want kelleher OUT of the squad, when in the past we've played GK's as our no1s who arent getting club game time. why is o'leary all of a sudden better than Kelleher? OKelleher is bound to have interest in the summer. he should go and i'd expect him to want to go. a loan is pointless, time to get a permanent move.
westwood was playing regularly in 2015/16 , randolph wasnt. yet randolph was no1.
Last edited by Jd2793; 07/03/2023 at 11:27 AM.
I'd say the Westwood thing was probably more of an O'Neill / Westwood thing. I don't think they were big fans of one another.
elliot had 22 starts in the championship that same season so i dont know what to say to the above statement but im sure you'll come back with some inane response
I assume Randolf was kept in Goal because he had not let us down which is pretty much as Bazunu has done.
and when has kelleher left us down to be dropped out of the squad for the 4th choice GK?
Even though for Ireland I've listed a long line of errors?
Kelleher has never been the Irish Number 1 for any long period of time.
I think it's time that Kelleher spent a pro-longed period of time in goal some-where, to see if he can be a number 1 goal-keeper ( at a decent level )
You said especially lately, for a 20 year old that must mean the recent past. So that would mean the Southampton mistakes. Like I said, he's made a few errors for us but in a poor performing team he's been very good. I'm sure if you dissected every players performance you'd find the odd error, especially someone so young.
It is gone a bit crazy if we are really suggesting that Kelleher should be dropped for O'Leary. Kelleher is clearly our #2 keeper. There is no way he drops to #4.
The "Kelleher out" thing is only the lunatic fringe of the Bazunu lobby. The easiest way to build an irrefutable case for Bazunu is for Kelleher not to exist, or at least not be in the squad. I have absolutely nothing against Bazunu and think he's a keeper with prodigious natural ability and promise, but this debate seems to inspire increasingly polarised polemics, mainly directed at Kelleher. I'd be massively surprised if Kelleher is not a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL side next season, and equally surprised if he doesn't have a decent international career, competing with Bazunu maybe in a similar situation to Clemence and Shilton for England back in the day.
He did play 7 of 10 games in 2022, missing 2 games with a hamstring injury and being on the bench for the friendly against Norway.
We conceded 5 in Kelleher’s 7 games and 6 in Bazunu’s 3 games. It’s clearly not an issue for Kelleher to step in, even if he’s not playing regularly
In fairness I could have kept a clean sheet against Qatar that day! Lithuania(?) too. Point taken but not fully like for like I think. Each was really frustrating because I wanted a good look at him and he barely touched the ball.
But of course he's capable.
He's 24, has played four league games to date in his career so far and is unlikely to play for his club again this season. And you'd be massively surprised if he is not a first choice keeper at a mid-table PL team this time next season? I think at this stage it is clear he wants to be at Liverpool, maybe pushing to be Liverpool's nominated first choice for (all) cup games is a more reasonable/ achievable aim for next season. Lunatic fringe :-)
Relax lads. We have these 2 goalkeepers for the next 15 years. Both have the potential to be top class. Bazunu is there for now but it will be a battle with Kelleher for more than a decade. And a new keeper will probably come on the scene as well.
Kelleher is turning into the Jesse Lingard of goalkeepers, he'll be 32 and people will still be talking about his potential!
Im joking, but he is getting to the point where he has to go prove himself. I took the original comment that he could be left out of squad as tongue in cheek, but if we are still in the same situation this time next year he will risk being left out legitimately. There was people saying it was ridiculous when Randolph started getting left out of squads after he decided to take the bench option at West Ham, if Kelleher doesnt show soon that he can be a real goalkeeper playing every week then he is going to have to accept players playing will be ahead of him. If he was back up to a good goalkeeper at Everton for example would he be getting the same love as he does with amount of Liverpool fans there are in Ireland.
He only played three internationals in the last 15 months (and conceded two very soft goals in that time). So while I am largely pointing out the Southampton mistakes, there's been enough for Ireland too that I don't see that the problem is the defence he's playing behind.
This isn't an "odd error", as you suggest. It's a fairly big error every other game or so.
And yes, he's young. But the game is in two weeks.
Yes, the recent mistakes thing was clearly about Southampton. For Ireland, it has been an odd error, same as Kelleher really but you probably could pick any player and pick out a few mistakes. Really nothing to be too concerned about for a 20 year old. The game is in two weeks and Bazunu will start and rightfully so. Again, it's a no brainer. Circumstances will have to change amongst the goalkeeper candidates to change that.
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