The white part is probably what makes "them" guffaw.. While a nice gesture, the symbolism of the tricolour ended up being pretty meaningless and the actions of all sides (green/orange, political and otherwise) in the history of the island meant that the whole "peaceful coexistence" aspiration was complete bullish!t.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Spot on Stu.Originally Posted by SkStu
However well intended, it's a redundant flag in terms of "unity" on this island.
It maybe "unites" nationalists/republicans, but it will not "unite" the people that share this beautiful island.
John Hume was a visionary.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
On that basis the tricolor probably represents Narita and O'Hare airports, not just any diasporan who's ever drunk an Oirish coffee in either of themArticle 7 of Bunreacht na hÉireann outlines that the tricolour is the "national flag", which leaves things somewhat ambiguous as to what it officially represents. Ireland the state might end at the border but that's not to say the nation does.
How so, regarding the tricolour?
Can anyone translate into anything vaguely intelligible ??
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 07/01/2013 at 11:48 AM.
Has anyone ever encountered this before?:
This Wiki article claims it's a proposed neutral all-island flag. No idea what the colours are supposed to symbolise.
Interestingly, this is a cross-border flag in use on the Shannon-Erne waterway endorsed by the Inland Waterways Association of Ireland:
Like the top one, though no doubt the other lot would object to the white.
And why the yellow? And why not three crowns, or just 'mini' versions of all the respective provincial flags?
The bottom one looks likes a 'peace' flag relating to certain Glaswegian football teams, old and new...
Bottom flag is Sierra Leone. I remember using it in a school project halved with the Saltire as a cultural representation of myself.
Never saw that top one before... but if you're gonna use that why not just use the four provinces flag or at least position the symbols as they should be:
ULSTER-MUNSTER
CONNACHT-LEINSTER
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
I don't know who designed or proposed the top one. Perhaps just an imaginative Wikipedian rather than some body with official backing. Maybe GR should stick up his proposal too!
Ha, do elaborate...
Don't encourage him! GR that is.
There was a green-white-and red 'UJ' on the OWB site around 3 years ago which was proposed as the 'alternative' flag for the North. Though needless to say, it didn't go down too well....
This was close to it.
http://richardwillisuk.wordpress.com...thern-ireland/
and this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fl...ter_Nation.svg
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 07/01/2013 at 12:19 PM.
Like this?:
I've seen this variation of the Union flag being used by NI fans:
We were asked to come up with a flag of "our" countries and what it symbolises of us. Having had an interest in vexillogy as a kid it didn't take me long to come up with what I had which was a St Patrick's Saltire (representing my proud Irishness) in the hoist with the horizontal tricolour of Green-White-Blue (representing being from Ireland-near the Liffey-and Dublin) in the fly.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Those links bring up different flags to those here.
Are you colour blind dude?Like the top one, though no doubt the other lot would object to the white.
And why the yellow? And why not three crowns, or just 'mini' versions of all the respective provincial flags?
Last edited by Not Brazil; 07/01/2013 at 5:47 PM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I've one of them. Love it.
I've seen this variation of the Union flag being used by NI fans:
Get some stick from some of the Ubers though - they feel it is a *******isation of the Union Flag, and therefore in bad taste.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
That's a non Unionist flag - I don't think many Unionists would like that at all.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Not especially. Meant in terms of the stripes, bars, crosses fixation. Unless you think the broad stripe in #4805 is 'red'. Looks more like an orange tinge to me...
And the other with the star in the middle is Wiki's interpretation, not mine.
What about the other one, as per my earlier links? Sure it appeared on your ex-favourite MB in years gone by.
We may even have discussed it on there...
Hold on a sec; a light bulb has just flashed over my head...
In a supreme display of needless pedantry and deflection, didn't you once deny to myself elsewhere (as I attempted to explain that nationalists might not feel culturally comfortable playing in Windsor Park and, thus, that it was unreasonable for NI fans both to expect them to play for an entity that was culturally alien to them and to furthermore accuse them of bigotry when they opted not to) that such a flag being displayed at a NI game would possess British connotations because your "*******ised" green version wasn't actually a Union flag?
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 07/01/2013 at 6:34 PM.
That's correct - it's not a Union Flag. A Union Flag is Red, White & Blue.
If Nationalists/Republicans don't want to play for Northern Ireland, for whatever reason, I've no major issues with that - as you well know.
I've seen Red, White and Blue Tricolours at Linfield games - does that have Republic Of Ireland connotations?
Last edited by Not Brazil; 07/01/2013 at 6:44 PM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Of course not. It would not be the intention of those displaying such a flag for it to bear any cultural relationship to an Irish tricolour. Context is everything.
As for your own flag, it's a modified Union flag that, with the exception of one colour, adheres to the exact design specifications of a Union flag for obvious reasons; to convey a message that NI is British and proud. Or do you possess it for some other reason?
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 07/01/2013 at 7:04 PM.
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