Shay Given

**elroy** · 16/11/2011, 9:41 AM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Hmmm, two poor efforts now against Armenia and Estonia last night. We certainly can't afford to be giving soft goals like those away in the Finals. An abberation or is Shay in decline? Never remember him letting in soft ones like those before.

Happy to give the lad the benefit of the doubt, particularly last night, many minds werent exacted totally focused on the game last night. However, both goals were his fault and with Westwood ever emerging there isnt a place for such errors. We could still have had that clean sheet record.

**brine3** · 16/11/2011, 10:06 AM

We certainly wouldn't have had the clean sheet record if he hadn't been playing in Moscow.

But yeah, what he did last night is the dodgiest bit of keeping I've seen him do in his 120 caps for Ireland. It seems to always happen when he has to dive very low to his right. Italy, Armenia and now Estonia. It's his right shoulder that's always at him, isn't it? I hope it clears up...

**nigel-harps1954** · 16/11/2011, 11:08 AM

Christ but that ball took a serious dip at the last minute though. Still no excuse and should have saved it, but until then he was relatively untroubled, so you could forgive him for a lapse in concentration.

**Drumcondra 69er** · 16/11/2011, 12:17 PM

Dreaadful error as was the one v Armenia. Still a legend and top top keeper though and at least he's getting his mistakes out of the way in games where it doesn't matter.

**an_ceannaire** · 16/11/2011, 1:03 PM

too fond of the sound of his own voice.
Superb servant for Ireland thought and deserves the benefit of the doubt. No fear for him atall
But certainly loves being loved all the same

**DannyInvincible** · 16/11/2011, 5:28 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

too fond of the sound of his own voice.

In what sense?

But certainly loves being loved all the same

Who wouldn't?

**nigel-harps1954** · 17/11/2011, 8:22 AM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

too fond of the sound of his own voice.
Superb servant for Ireland thought and deserves the benefit of the doubt. No fear for him atall
But certainly loves being loved all the same

Very confused by this, what makes you say that?

**pineapple stu** · 17/11/2011, 9:04 AM

The on-pitch big-screen interviews the last two games? Not that they were his choice, of course.

**Stuttgart88** · 17/11/2011, 10:36 AM

an_ceannaire isn't used to people actually wanting to be liked. His default setting is to attract derision.

**theworm2345** · 03/12/2011, 5:12 PM

Shay just gone off with what appears to be an injury to his left hamstring...doesn't look good. Sprinted from his goal to clear a ball, they were carrying him off the pitch. Not good.

**tommy_c12000** · 03/12/2011, 5:33 PM

Originally Posted by theworm2345

Shay just gone off with what appears to be an injury to his left hamstring...doesn't look good. Sprinted from his goal to clear a ball, they were carrying him off the pitch. Not good.

Looked like left hamstring alright. But was a bit concerning the manner in which he wasn't able to weight bear coming off. Hopefully the left knee isn't involved as well

**theworm2345** · 05/12/2011, 1:19 AM

Injury doesn't appear to be serious
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetai...536610,00.html

**Shilts** · 05/12/2011, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Christ but that ball took a serious dip at the last minute though. Still no excuse and should have saved it, but until then he was relatively untroubled, so you could forgive him for a lapse in concentration.

Forgive him for a lapse in concentration???
Trap needs to keep an eye on this issue.
And not let it turn into Bonnar 94, where Packie was kept on too long in my opinion.

**Shilts** · 05/12/2011, 10:53 AM

Also in my opinion Given has not been as good since the big guy from West Ham clattered into him a few years back. Harewood??

(Similar to Cech after the Hunt incident?)

**SwanVsDalton** · 05/12/2011, 11:51 AM

Shay's having a really very,very good season with Villa so far - their meagre points total would be considerably lower if it were not for some great saves and smart keeping. Let's not lose the run of ourselves here, he's still one of the most consistent goalkeepers in the Premier League