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    Italy and Argentina did have to earn it the hard way but it was down to them as well and they did it. Georgia, Russia and Romania have shown anything near the performance of Italy and Argentina when those nations started to impress. The ENC is offering an opportunity for more countries to develop, an opportunity I'm not aware of Argentina and Italy having. The top ENC sides need more top level games though, I agree fully with that. They need more big test games and test against Europe leading nations.
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    Looking forward to tomorrow mornings game. It's been great so far to see Ireland win all 4 games and top the group. It'll be fantastic to make the semi-finals, for the first time ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Italy were getting some good and some exceptional results as an emerging team for 20 years before they were accepted into the expanded 6 nations.
    And I think some good results or some good performances came at the world cup as well.
    I'm not going to go mypostal on it - I'm not going to argue too much that weren't unduly delayed in gaining entry to the Championship, and did get occasional results before then. However, I think it was the 1995 World Cup that they really became competitive, and they really kicked on from there results wise, and the first 6 Nations was 2000.
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    No, no one should ever go mypostal on a debate, explanation about opinions made is quite sufficient

    The 6 nations is a cosy, nice sized, cartel, but I assume Stutts is thinking like me that it would good if there was some criteria for an emerging team to enter that cartel. For myself I have a great admiration for the dedication applied to developing the sport in those 'emerging' countries, so much so that I was almost disappointed when O'Gara dropped that goal in Rome.

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    FFS! Wales, Jesus h Christ - EMBARRASSING, just as we were getting on top again then we make two stupid mistakes in the line out, that's the end for the old guard and our best ever chance to make a final. Watch England make the final in their sleep. And when are we going to get rid of that dirge as an anthem, more embaressment seeing Irish people sing that pop song, whats wrong with Danny Boy. FFS
    (early morning rant,lol, sorry!)

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    Wales were superb. Nothing but admiration for them. Irelands mistakes were down to pressure. We were beaten in every facet of the game. They have every chance of winning the competition now.

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    It felt like we were pushing it from the first try on. I think the 2 missed penalty opportunities led to a sense of panic. My hunch is it was a good idea for the first one (try to hit back immediately, confidence in our forwards etc) and then when the second came along we made the same decision rather than admit the first was a mistake.

    Also felt that all the bounces went wales' way we didnt get the benefit of turnovers etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavan_fan View Post
    It felt like we were pushing it from the first try on. I think the 2 missed penalty opportunities led to a sense of panic. My hunch is it was a good idea for the first one (try to hit back immediately, confidence in our forwards etc) and then when the second came along we made the same decision rather than admit the first was a mistake.

    Also felt that all the bounces went wales' way we didnt get the benefit of turnovers etc.
    Agree on the penos. The second one definitely should've been kicked for goal. Incredible lack of composure from experienced players who should no better.

    As good as Wales were - and they were excellent - we made their life easier with a fairly lifeless backline performance and some typically silly mistakes at crucial times. It's gutting we couldn't have shown more when, as pointed out, we'll likely never have a better chance to win the thing.
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    The games momentum swung when we messed up on our own throw on the half way line.

    All week everybody has been banging on about
    Warburton at the breakdown and I'm surprised we didn't have an effective plan to combat him. Welsh defence excellent but our big game players didn't turn up.

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    Back at 10 all and we lose our first lineout. And Wales score. Such is the fine dividing line and the momentum remains with Wales for the rest of the game. Talk of winning the tournament was ridiculous as this Irish team wasn't capable of putting in back to back to back consistent performances. Pity but now back to the soccer.

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    Not taking the penalties was stupid - get the points on the board ffs, whoever's call it was. If weren't going to play to O'Gara's strengths, we should've gone for Sexton. Yet another coulda, woulda, shoulda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt
    when are we going to get rid of that dirge as an anthem, more embaressment seeing Irish people sing that pop song, whats wrong with Danny Boy. FFS
    (early morning rant,lol, sorry!)
    Watched the Wales players sing their anthem with pride, while we are the only country to have no anthem, just a meaningless plastic tune.

    Ireland couldn't handle the favourites tag again, but they'll have 4 years before playing the next big tournament, and on the bright side, it should condemn the idea of rugby overtaking our sport in popularity until then.

    At least the football team are still in a tournament.
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    No arguments here. Wales were the better team in every area of the game. I hope they can bring the same intensity to the French game.

    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    And when are we going to get rid of that dirge as an anthem, more embaressment seeing Irish people sing that pop song, whats wrong with Danny Boy. FFS
    (early morning rant,lol, sorry!)
    You realise Danny Boy is actually a dirge, right? In the true definition of the word.

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    I'm not sure what bennocelt is talking about when he says it was embarrassing. Our defence was immense. Five or six times Ireland had us on our goal line, and five or six times we drove you back with no points. We even had the luxury of several missed kicks.

    Ireland played quite well in the first half and a few years back we'd have folded and lost that game 35-7 or something. But Gatland has done a terrific job in maintaining consistently excellent performance levels ever since coming in.

    Shame for quality players like O'Driscoll and D'Arcy to bow out of their last ever World Cup like that, especially after that great win against the Aussies in the pool. But we totally deserved the victory - no controversial try needed today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    Not taking the penalties was stupid - get the points on the board ffs, whoever's call it was. If weren't going to play to O'Gara's strengths, we should've gone for Sexton. Yet another coulda, woulda, shoulda.
    I agree, I couldn't believe O'Gara kept kicking into touch in the 1st half when you had so much possession. Getting points on the board then would have given Ireland the lead in the second half assuming the game proceeded as it did, and that would have left us chasing the game and who knows what would have happened then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymro View Post
    I'm not sure what bennocelt is talking about when he says it was embarrassing. Our defence was immense. Five or six times Ireland had us on our goal line, and five or six times we drove you back with no points. We even had the luxury of several missed kicks.

    But we totally deserved the victory - no controversial try needed today.
    Yeah def deserved the victory no doubt and the defence was very tight, but Ireland didnt really turn up at all, and the big guns were all over the place. To beat the Aussies then lose to a Welsh team that are beatable, damn.

    Anyhow, typical French turn on the style, wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    You realise Danny Boy is actually a dirge, right? In the true definition of the word.
    True, it might not be the best song in the world, but at least its a better alternative

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    Now isn't the right time.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    To beat the Aussies then lose to a Welsh team that are beatable, damn.
    I'm not sure Australia are a better team than us at the moment to be honest.
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    Not trying to upset the genuine rugby fan but that result was entirely predictable. The hype around the team went way way way over the top.
    Talk about semi finals and finals was commonplace. Wales are a proud rugby nation and we basically dismissed them.
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