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    Quote Originally Posted by Acornvilla
    Plenty of crowd (bohs) trouble tonight.. a good bus load of them weren't allowed in and or thrown out, well over 10 police cars and a few paddy wagons got called in. Don't know if it was a case of gards over reacting or what but looked pretty excessive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamd164 View Post
    Sounds like it was a Sheriff home game, did Shels have any fans there!?
    It was a Sheriff home game.

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    From watching those highlights of the sheriff v shels game I couldnt really see anyone that stood out as someone not giving their all. Maybe the shels keeper and defence were a bit suspect alright

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    Sligo-Pats, Shels-Cork, Longford-bohs......

    "the common denominator in crowd trouble is Shamrock Rovers"
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamd164 View Post
    Sounds like it was a Sheriff home game, did Shels have any fans there!?
    no sure they were all down in the bookies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    Sligo-Pats, Shels-Cork, Longford-bohs......

    the common denominator in crowd trouble is..................




    Too close to Britain tbs tbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
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    One bloke kicking a van hardly counts as 'crowd trouble'
    Here on a technicality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartySaint View Post
    One bloke kicking a van hardly counts as 'crowd trouble'
    Well, it turned out to be trouble for the p rick kicking the van.

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    Soccer steward attacked by own 'fans'

    By Mark Hilliard


    Monday August 29 2011

    UP to 30 soccer hooligans clashed with gardai at an FAI Cup tie over the weekend after Bohemians football club sent stewards to identify its own black-listed fans.

    Gardai were forced to use pepper spray in a bid to contain the group of agitators who were said to be intoxicated and intent on violence.

    A spokesman for Bohemians said that one of its own stewards was set upon by supporters.

    No arrests were made at the Flancare Park ground in Longford on Saturday night although a Garda investigation is ongoing after one person was brought to hospital with minor injuries.

    A file will be forwarded to the Director of Public Prosecutions.

    "I know it sounds bonkers to say that a Bohemians steward would be attacked by people purporting to be Bohemians fans but that seems to be what happened," said the club spokesman.

    Tooth

    The steward in question lost a tooth in the incident.

    The hooligans behind Saturday's violent outburst belong to a group known as the Bohemians 'Casuals' -- a hardcore base of fans, generally intent on causing trouble.

    Before the fixture, the Football Association of Ireland had contacted Bohemians with information that a number of its fans, forbidden from attending club games, were travelling to the fixture.

    In response, Bohemians dispatched their own stewards to assist gardai and security.

    When a number of fans were prevented from entering the ground, at least a dozen more who were already inside came back out to involve themselves in the brawl.

    Gardai were forced to use pepper spray to disperse those involved. The fixture, which Bohemians won 3-1, did not experience any delays as a result.


    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-2860211.html

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    That is one of the most disgraceful pieces of journalism I have seen in a long time... and that is really saying something in this country.

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    looking at the highlights of the Shels match what stood out to me (and maybe only because I was looking for it) was:

    Philly Hughes didn't look too disappointed to miss the penalty, and it looks like he gets right underneath it, almost scooping it over the bar.

    Delaney was pretty poor for the first and second goals, first one he was way off his line, and maybe it looks like he can't get to ti, but why is he that far out to begin with, and the second one he didn't even move. The third was a peach in fairness

    Theres another few times where players just don't seem that bothered about making too much of an effort to track back or get the ball, but that could be tiredness/laziness rather than anything underhanded.

    Its hard to say from that clip and I hope that its not true. I really don't want to believe that sort of thing is going on in our league. If it is true though, the players need long term bans and you'd have to look at points deductions, though I don't want City to go up as a result of points deductions.

    Still match fixing is about the worst thing you can do in football

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartySaint View Post
    One bloke kicking a van hardly counts as 'crowd trouble'
    It does if he's a Rovers supporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasher View Post
    It does if he's a Rovers supporter.
    It still doesn't!!
    Here on a technicality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topia View Post
    That is one of the most disgraceful pieces of journalism I have seen in a long time... and that is really saying something in this country.
    The Bohemians club spokesman believes that a steward was attacked, Town Legend reported the same.

    The Gardai reactions may have been OTT (which would be the norm in my experiece) but that does not dilute what appears to have been the original problem.

    If the steward was attacked and especially if it was a serious assault that dislodged a tooth, I hope the perpetrator(s) get their due from the courts. There is no room for ambivalance just because the the attacker is wearing the colours of the club you support

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Pietro View Post
    looking at the highlights of the Shels match what stood out to me (and maybe only because I was looking for it) was:

    Philly Hughes didn't look too disappointed to miss the penalty, and it looks like he gets right underneath it, almost scooping it over the bar.

    Delaney was pretty poor for the first and second goals, first one he was way off his line, and maybe it looks like he can't get to ti, but why is he that far out to begin with, and the second one he didn't even move. The third was a peach in fairness

    Theres another few times where players just don't seem that bothered about making too much of an effort to track back or get the ball, but that could be tiredness/laziness rather than anything underhanded.

    Its hard to say from that clip and I hope that its not true. I really don't want to believe that sort of thing is going on in our league. If it is true though, the players need long term bans and you'd have to look at points deductions, though I don't want City to go up as a result of points deductions.

    Still match fixing is about the worst thing you can do in football
    Reading the text commentary on Friday that seemed to be the conclusion from my POV that they were just being lazy however there were alarm bells set off with the peno which were mentioned at the time. Like you I hope its not true and hope that anyone het whatever is coming them if it is true.

    We shall see.

    On your other point re points deductions, that can hardly be done given that this was a cup match. However I don't know, and clarification wild be appreciated.

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    The FAI control both competitions so can sanction in either, or both

    Anyone who posts about possible sanctions is guessing of course, as it's unprecedented

    Personally think that nothing will happen BTW

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    From that clip it didnt look too much of a fix for me, ok the shels keeper was of his line a long way and in an unusual position and I agree Hughes(was that a beer belly??) peno was awful, but there have been worse.

    Towards the end I did noticed the shels left full, number 3 was walking in his own box when Sheriff were attacking. Only other thing was shels could have been 4 or 5 up at HT, but I think I`d put it down to dreadful shels 2nd half and a brilliant response from Sherif.

    Maybe the betting patterns will tell more, HT Home/FT Away rarely come off. (i'm saying shels were the 'home' team in this case)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    The Bohemians club spokesman believes that a steward was attacked, Town Legend reported the same.
    Town legend wasn't there though, neither was the journalist but I actually was. Now, Town legend said it was a female Longford steward attacked. This says it was a Bohs steward attacked. Both the Bohs stewards there were male and I'd know them personally to say hello to. They were attacked - verbally. The Bohs spokesperson would be Denis Maher, hon secretary who is a cancer on the club and routinely lies about fans, and I will go on record right here in saying he is a liar. A filthy liar. He knows who I am too (by username, same as on thebohs.com) so I'm not being a keyboard warrior here). The article never mentions that the person who was taken to hospital with minor injuries is a bohs fan who was INJURED BY THE GARDAÍ!!! The only people hurt were Bohs fans. The only people attacking anyone were the Gards. This story is being spun by the Bohs board because they want to kill the club. This might sound strange but yes, they are trying to kill the club. They are trying to force out members and devalue the club so they can change the rules and end the membership structure. A board member resigned today in protest at what is going on, particularly what happened on Saturday. We are planning a boycott of Friday night's league game and will not stop until that liar parasite Denis Maher is not only off the board but banned from going anywhere near Dalymount Park. He is a cancer on our club. WE ARE BOHS!
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    Maybe all the Bohs fans who decided to run out to the gate to give their mates a helping hand should have concentrated on the match instead? I'm sure it was well meaning but it didn't exactly help the situation by the looks of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    The FAI control both competitions so can sanction in either, or both

    Anyone who posts about possible sanctions is guessing of course, as it's unprecedented

    Personally think that nothing will happen BTW
    I am of course just speculating, but a points deduction would seem to be the only way the FAI can punish clubs, and if 7 or more players are involved in match fixing then the club would have to be punished. I'd ban the players for life as well.

    Maybe that in itself would be enough, but if anything can be proved then the FAI have to come down very hard.

    Again, just to reiterate, I don't want Shels to be punished, because I want a full and thorough investigation to find that nothing untoward happened.

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