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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    'The Derry-born player is the latest teenager to become embroiled in an international tug-of-war between the IFA and FAI over recent weeks'

    Gross inaccurate description there. We don't need to tug, we just have that natural magnetic attraction.
    The language if this whole row is what's making it worse.

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    Northern Ireland's Jim Boyce has just been elected to the increasingly repugnant FIFA ExCo. I wonder will he try to, or even can, influence the eligibility issue from that position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    Northern Ireland's Jim Boyce has just been elected to the increasingly repugnant FIFA ExCo. I wonder will he try to, or even can, influence the eligibility issue from that position.
    Please see the Eligibility thread...

    http://foot.ie/threads/147164-Eligibility-Rules-Okay/page24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bottle of Tonic View Post
    You could read that as 'hope (within the IFA) that he will refuse to switch........'
    I considered that, but, due to the surrounding context, it doesn't appear that the journalist was writing from the perspective of the IFA, at least to me anyway.

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    Heres our next recruit lads. http://www.redcafe.net/f40/ruairi-croskery-332237/. Annsborough would be fairly nationalist!! With sam byrne moving over this summer maybe we will have two strikers up top for utd youths in a few years. Best of luck to the lad either way

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    I'm suspicious of you, liamoo11, or are those figures in your username indicative of your age?

    Anyway, assuming that you are posting here in good faith, eligibility matters should be discussed in the designated thread: http://foot.ie/threads/147164-Eligib...es-Okay/page30

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    I'm suspicious of you, liamoo11, or are those figures in your username indicative of your age?

    Anyway, assuming that you are posting here in good faith, eligibility matters should be discussed in the designated thread: http://foot.ie/threads/147164-Eligib...es-Okay/page30
    Might I ask what you are suspicious of? The lad is from Down in the north of Ireland so obviously he is eligible and consequently i dont see how this post has any place in the eligibility thread. Two 15/16 year old Irish strikers playing youth football for Utd is likely to be of interest to some contributors on here. If you have no interest in youth football then why comment on this? Im not 11 so Id rather you didnt tell me where I can post. Congrats on a worthy 1.350th post.

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    What on earth does this have to do with Shane Ferguson?

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    You are absolutely right it has nothing to do with ferguson. I should have started a new thread maybe for irish youth players moving cross channel to big clubs this summer apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Might I ask what you are suspicious of? The lad is from Down in the north of Ireland so obviously he is eligible and consequently i dont see how this post has any place in the eligibility thread. Two 15/16 year old Irish strikers playing youth football for Utd is likely to be of interest to some contributors on here. If you have no interest in youth football then why comment on this? Im not 11 so Id rather you didnt tell me where I can post. Congrats on a worthy 1.350th post.
    Well, as CD points out, your post had nothing to do with Shane Ferguson. Of course, I was merely directing you towards a thread where discussion of northern-born players from playing within the northern system might be slightly more relevant. You can post about these chaps in this thread 'til your heart's content, but I can't imagine the mods will take too kindly to it. Or you could just start a new thread.

    Your use of the word "recruits" and describing Annsborough as "fairly nationalist" just seemed a bit suspect to me, as if you were trying to incite something, but I apologise if I read you incorrectly. I also recall a poster on here making a bizarre query in relation to Irish nationality recently as he asked if it made one eligible to play for one of the UK teams. For some reason, I thought it had been you - similar username or something maybe - but the error might have been on my part, as I can't seem to find the post right now and have had a skim through your post history. You'll be happy to hear, however, that, as a result, your obvious interest in youth football has been duly noted. Kudos.

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    fair enough. Living in Annsborough, going to a catholic school, playing gaelic football and been called Ruairi would suggest that when you have to choose between the IFA and the FAI you are more likely to choose the FAI and therefor be a "recruit" for the FAI. I was simply trying to highlight that this lad might turn out for the republic just like someone posted a few months ago that Paul George of Celtic was likely to see his future with the FAI. Of course I may be completely wrong and he may have a long career with the north and good luck to him.

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    Hmm... Niall McGinn lived in Donaghmore, went to a Catholic school, played Gaelic football and has a similarly Irish name, yet he chose to play for the IFA. Anyway, it's way off-topic.

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    Absolutely that is the beauty of the situation for all promising footballers they can chose the IFA or FAI. Choice is great. My crystal ball has no definitive answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Hmm... Niall McGinn lived in Donaghmore, went to a Catholic school, played Gaelic football and has a similarly Irish name, yet he chose to play for the IFA. Anyway, it's way off-topic.

    Without wanting to sound condescending in any way to the NI fans, I think a huge part of McGinn's decision to represent NI, was based on a realistic self assessment of his own abilities and the realisation that he would be unlikely to feature in the Irish team due to greater competition for places. He made a pragmatic decision to play international football with a team that he is more likely to feature in, in the same way as some of the English lads have done with us. This has in no way lessened his commitment to the cause and NI fans have really taken to him due to his tireless work ethic. But as a self confessed Irish fan, his decision must have been based on a reasoned assessment of his chances of breaking into the Irish team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by French Toasht View Post
    Without wanting to sound condescending in any way to the NI fans, I think a huge part of McGinn's decision to represent NI, was based on a realistic self assessment of his own abilities and the realisation that he would be unlikely to feature in the Irish team due to greater competition for places. He made a pragmatic decision to play international football with a team that he is more likely to feature in, in the same way as some of the English lads have done with us. This has in no way lessened his commitment to the cause and NI fans have really taken to him due to his tireless work ethic. But as a self confessed Irish fan, his decision must have been based on a reasoned assessment of his chances of breaking into the Irish team.
    I seem to recall possessing a vague memory of a poster on OWC asserting proudly that Niall McGinn never harboured any intentions of playing for Ireland. So, we're to believe he spent his childhood dreaming of playing for NI...

    I agree with pretty much everything you say. He mightn't even have been aware of the fact he'd have been expected to contact the FAI to let them know of his interest in them rather than them contact him to let him know of their interest in him. Who knows? I haven't seen much of McGinn since he left Derry, but he always looked a cut above. I think he could have been an option for us had things worked out better for him at Celtic, but he seems to be little more than a reserve player now.

    Of course, had we poached him, we might even have had the GAA taking a case to CAS calling for compo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by French Toasht View Post
    Without wanting to sound condescending in any way to the NI fans, I think a huge part of McGinn's decision to represent NI, was based on a realistic self assessment of his own abilities and the realisation that he would be unlikely to feature in the Irish team due to greater competition for places. He made a pragmatic decision to play international football with a team that he is more likely to feature in, in the same way as some of the English lads have done with us. This has in no way lessened his commitment to the cause and NI fans have really taken to him due to his tireless work ethic. But as a self confessed Irish fan, his decision must have been based on a reasoned assessment of his chances of breaking into the Irish team.
    I think you're absolutely correct. The man whom this thread is in honor of might well be making similar assessments as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullivinho View Post
    I think you're absolutely correct. The man whom this thread is in honor of might well be making similar assessments as we speak.
    I can tell you that he is certainly mulling it over.
    End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predator View Post
    I can tell you that he is certainly mulling it over.
    Tell him to get over his modesty, he's definitely good enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by French Toasht View Post
    Without wanting to sound condescending in any way to the NI fans
    None taken, good post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sullivinho View Post
    Tell him to get over his modesty, he's definitely good enough
    Ha ha. Ferguson is anything but modest: having to mull over whether to retire from international football aged 19 suggests a time-waster to me. Sooner he buggers off the better. A younger Biggles McCartney, or possibly one or two of your own players who've skived off recently.

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