Sporting Fingal Gone Belly Up

[The Lep]

What I don't get is how you aren't more alarmed to the fact that nearly nineteen grand a week has been removed from your budget.

Where do you get your figures from? How alarmed should i be and how should i show it on here? I know what is happening at the club and i take things as they are and its not as bad as the shells heads and others want it to be

[The Lep]

The fundamentals are sound. Nothing to see here folks.

If you are going to post something then at least make it new and constructive

Dont forget how shells ended up in division one. Spending money they didnt have on a dream that didnt work and the glory hunters that went along with it deserting them. Shells arent doing that great now they are spending within their means now are they? Fingal are spending money they have and will build a squad with that be it on a big budget or a small one. Its a good approach and nothing to be alarmed at.

[L.T.F.C.]

Where do you get your figures from? How alarmed should i be and how should i show it on here? I know what is happening at the club and i take things as they are and its not as bad as the shells heads and others want it to be

I knew I made a mistake on that figure. Gaaahhhhh!

Anyway, 750k has been removed from your budget. How are you going to soak that up?

[sullanefc]

It was Lamper who spoke about that part of the debate so I commented on it.

I live in Fingal too btw. I don't see anything referring to the club in my area.

It's good that you feel pride in being from Fingal but I don't quite understand why or how. Pride in the club yes but in Fingal CCA?

Up until a number of years ago, the term "proud Munster man" wouldn't have been understood either. You were either from Cork, Limerick etc. Now, when it comes to rugby, people say it all the time.

[White Horse]

Up until a number of years ago, the term "proud Munster man" wouldn't have been understood either. You were either from Cork, Limerick etc. Now, when it comes to rugby, people say it all the time.

I think you'll find a large difference between an average foofball and eggchasing fan. Most eggchasers have no sense of tribal identity. They are open to the creation of amalgaamated clubs.

I bring my sons to Oriel Park because my father did, and his father did etc. I doubt I'm alone here.

[The Lep]

I knew I made a mistake on that figure. Gaaahhhhh!

Anyway, 750k has been removed from your budget. How are you going to soak that up?

You cant remove something that wasnt there in the first place. Every club's budget changes and ours isnt any diffrent. Read the thread, ive given an answer plenty of times on that one.

[L.T.F.C.]

You cant remove something that wasnt there in the first place. Every club's budget changes and ours isnt any diffrent. Read the thread, ive given an answer plenty of times on that one.

To be perfectly honest, I couldn't be holed to read 29 pages of stuff.
If it wasn't there in the first place, why is this thread here? And why was Gannon paying money into the club? Where was that money going?
He put in 750,000. Fingal came out with -75,000. What is going on?

[John83]

You cant remove something that wasnt there in the first place. Every club's budget changes and ours isnt any diffrent. Read the thread, ive given an answer plenty of times on that one.

So what you're saying is that you knew about Gannon pulling out in advance? Is that what you meant when you posted this?

...Dont get your hopes up just yet as Fingal will be stronger next year trust me as i know something you dont ...

Because I always think that the loss of your biggest sponsor makes for a stronger club too. But then, I dropped business studies after the Junior Cert.

[legendz]

It was Lamper who spoke about that part of the debate so I commented on it.

I live in Fingal too btw. I don't see anything referring to the club in my area.

It's good that you feel pride in being from Fingal but I don't quite understand why or how. Pride in the club yes but in Fingal CCA?

I don't think many, if any, will have pride in their County Council. It was a good move by Fingal CCA to look at creating a club for their region and promoting the game in the area. All areas need an identity. Fingal and it's surrounding areas have theirs already I'm sure, not everyone will buy into the club and what its about. It's great Fingal CCA have looked at creating a club for the region. Not many around the country seem to from what I can see.

[Hairy Bowsie]

Can somebody please change the record - can we not discuss something with some sense and relevance?

Your club is staring it's possible extinction in the face and you want to discuss something with more "relevance"

Thats actually too funny

[Hairy Bowsie]

And why was Gannon paying money into the club? Where was that money going?
He put in 750,000. Fingal came out with -75,000. What is going on?

Wednesday July 14th the Government passes a bill to de-zone land from residential use because there is nowhere near enough demand for it. See this article:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...274739688.html

The very same day Fingal County Council votes to give the go ahead for the development of a brand new Neighbourhood on 270 acres, most of which is owned by Gerry Gannon. See here:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...274649384.html

[Lamper.sffc]

Your club is staring it's possible extinction in the face and you want to discuss something with more "relevance"

Thats actually too funny

This thread is about Fingal. I think you will find that Spudulika is not a fingal fan.

[Lamper.sffc]

It was Lamper who spoke about that part of the debate so I commented on it.

I live in Fingal too btw. I don't see anything referring to the club in my area.

It's good that you feel pride in being from Fingal but I don't quite understand why or how. Pride in the club yes but in Fingal CCA?

Just because you dont, doesnt mean that there isnt others who do.

As I said earlier, which you seem to have ignored, that the club was part of trying to help build an identity for Fingal and I commend the council for trying to do something positive for its region, My region.
The idea for the club was a very positive one. A slower more organic build might have been the better way to go but the reasons for the club existing are sound.

[legendz]

It was a very positive idea. It's a pity more areas of the country aren't doing the same. Back to back European qualification has been a great achievement by the club.

[Spudulika]

Fingal are nothing without Gannon's money.

They were an artificial club created on paper without any football provenance or roots in football at any previous level.

Clubs with a support, history and tradition, along with a solid backbone of 'football people' could survive the loss of a major benefactor through established fundraising by and from their fanbase, added to a paying gate attendance.

Fingal Franchise with none of the above, are history.

Good riddance!

Isn't there a helpline for you to go to? I mean, addiction to past missed promotions might be difficult, blaming others is the first hurdle to remove before you can then find salvation and peace. Either that or in the immortal words of the current Ipswich boss - get over it. Life's too short to go looking for other clubs to fail, because karma has a way of coming back to bite you on the a@@, and the next time around your beloveds might not get so lucky!

Sorry hairy bowsie, my own boys are still in the Premier, hopefully remaining there instead of spending another period in the wilderness alongside "giants", though nobody knows what's around the corner and I certainly never thought I'd be watching Dundalk below the Premier. It may sound odd, but I don't actively want other clubs to fail because of my own clubs failings, that always seen a tad pathetic.

For non-Dublin people it might be news that the county has a number of identities, it used to be 2 (North and South), now with West Dublin/Tallaght etc, there is another element. However the GAA have recognised the entity that is Fingal, maybe that irks some of the garrison game followers :-)

[OneForTheFuture]

Just because you dont, doesnt mean that there isnt others who do.

As I said earlier, which you seem to have ignored, that the club was part of trying to help build an identity for Fingal and I commend the council for trying to do something positive for its region, My region.
The idea for the club was a very positive one. A slower more organic build might have been the better way to go but the reasons for the club existing are sound.

In bold: I accept that.

In itallic: It must be just a Swords, Lusk, Rush thing cause it's only a 2 monthly newsletter round here.

And you are right of course about a slower growth.

[oriel]

Lep - thanks for the reply to my questions, as much as I admire both you and lampers enthuasiastic posts here about your club I really think you have to accept that your club has gone as far as it will ever go, and next season will see a totally different set up - infact how can you even pretend that you can be competitive unless Gannon has pre paid for another season upfront.

I didnt agree one bit about the set up of the club, i was a little interested when I heard about the possible move to Rush or Lusk, but that never took off, and apart from a tidy side to look at the club never made an impression with the public with home crowds frequently under 1,000, I thought they actually devalued the Premier Division at times. It was a totally pointless project in my view.

Next season, a top 5 of the two Rovers, Pats, Dundalk & Derry has a nice look to it in terms of quality, fans and tradition, Bohs are the obvious ones to miss here, but they will be back at some point.

[PartySaint]

Rovers said they were part time and won the league. The league finish all depends on the quality of players we have next season and i cant see a reason for us to have a poorer standard of players seeing that we have retained the best players. Not all the best players are those better know in the league. I would hope for the higher the better finish. I see us finishing top 3.
People are making the mistake that with Gannon gone its the end for Fingal which isnt the case. These things happen in football all the time and the club will cut its cloth to suit like i said at the start of this thread and base it on money they have coming in and not what we could get which a lot of clubs have made that mistake.
We are in europe next year and im sure Buckley would want to be competitive in that again.
If we got relegated it woul no doubt harm our ability to attract more support but we would survive .

Well at least your starting to be a bit realistic, last week you were telling us that Fingal will definitely win the league next season




*GOING OFF TOPIC ALERT*
Legendz, Inchicore is part of Dublin City Council area but its still south of the Liffey so thats enough to call it South Dublin for me and we haven't been whoring ourselves around the Northside for most of the last 25 years

[The Lep]

So what you're saying is that you knew about Gannon pulling out in advance? Is that what you meant when you posted this?

Because I always think that the loss of your biggest sponsor makes for a stronger club too. But then, I dropped business studies after the Junior Cert.

The biggest sponsor at the time but not the only one and not the last.

[The Lep]

Your club is staring it's possible extinction in the face and you want to discuss something with more "relevance"

Thats actually too funny

I think you have posted on the wrong thread there.