Can I ask the 'Pike' people if you think you deserve to be still in the competition after fielding an illegible player in it?? I'm not looking for Saints did this or someone tipped them off or we've been screwed by the FAI etc. I know you must be sick over whats happened and its come as a kick in the teeth. But as a straw poll 'Should Pike be still in the FAI Junior Cup after playing an illegible player?' yes or no??
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Why not? Pike were 100% legal when they played st michaels.st micks objected with no proof whatsoever that pike were illegal which has been proved.so you tell me why st micks objection was upheld.don't want a big rigmarone, just the facts.Now it's the st micks objection we are talking bout here and nothing else.Originally Posted by Longshanks
no.....
another club from the same limerick were thrown out earlier so it has to be the same for pike
I wonder wether part of the problem lies in the overall structure of football in the Republic, in that you have on paper 3 tiers - Senior, Intermediate & Junior though I do wonder exactly what the differance actually is between Intermediate & Junior.
With most countries you would expect that players would move through the tiers as their carreers progressed or declined, however here it may appear players in decline jump tiers . This being partly that a lot of clubs refuse to move through the tiers themselves as in a normal pyramid system. So a number of clubs that compete at an apparent Junior level in reality are probably Intermediate set up.
Taking Munster for example, there is the Munster Senior League (though predominatly a Cork City/East County geographical area). backed up by at Junior Level the various County Leagues.
Evidently junior teams in their County Leagues do not wish due to finance restrictions progress in a pyramid system and thus remain big fish in small ponds. Untill such time a proper pyramid system is instigated that the ongoing problem of registering ex senior players may always continue.
Historically Pike, Clonmel, Tipperayey,Cahir, Janesboro, Limerick Trojans, a number of Waterford teams, Tralee and Killarney have at times partaken in the MSL. Which in theory should be the principle league for the whole Province.
Admittingly to force clubs to move up levels can lead to financial burden. Either make the principle County Divisions Intermediate level, though I would suggest introducing a regional Intermediate level below the Msl - North Munster, best teams from Clare, Limerick, ntdl and some Desmond/Kerry. East Munster - TDSL & Waterford. These regional divisions being fed with promotion/relegation from County divisions.
There has forever been problems of players being ineligble due to registration between moving between levels through out the history of football in Ireland, One way to possibly eradicate this is if clubs played at a correct level due to their ability and facilities.
So you are now telling people Serpico what they can talk about on a public forum? it was a very good post and on that angle and saints aside if Pike played an illegal player in any round then yes they should be gone and saints becomes another matter
I'm told Pike's Munster Junior game this weekend has been pulled.
Local matches next?
You obviously picked me up wrong.what I was saying was that the objection was from st micks and no-one else and pike were found guilty of no wrong doing.hope that clears it up for you.I'm not telling anybody what they can and can't post because they will post anything onhere anyway.
ok fair enough but surely if Pike played an illegal player in any round then they should be expelled?? forget saint michaels for a moment
But you can't forget Saint Michaels for any moment because they are gaining from a situation that legally doesn't concern them, whilst clubs it does concern, ie Aisling and Springfield should still be represented in the competition. There is a procedure to be followed regarding the objecting to illegal players with timeframes in place for such objections to be raised. This was not done in this case, and Saint Michaels have no right to still be in the competition.
ya just told by an ldmc member carew park came to them last night asking for the 3points when they played pike christ there 1 classy club talk about supporting your own
Serpico,
By your logic Pike were 100% illegal against Aisling Annacotty!! I'll take that as a yes so
'I can live with disappointment, its the hope I cant handle'
This thread is starting to go round in circles,I can't see any reason to keep it going unless people start posting original material,I think we're all aware of the facts at this stage so I suggest stopping rehashing the same old stuff again and again.
fact 1=aisling did not object and can not do so.fact 2 =springfield did not object and can not do so.these are facts whether pike were illegal against them or not and the same goes for any other soccer matches pike played in.as there are time scales for all these so called objections they are all expired by now.so lets all sit back and take a chill pill and see what the outcome as i said earlier in about 3 months time.its geting boring.
Just close it now!! Do us all a favour!!
"There is no pressure at the top. The pressure's being second or third."
Fact 1 - illegal
Fact 2 - illegal
Fact 3 - Out
'I can live with disappointment, its the hope I cant handle'
Great post.
Can you prove that long.if not shut it.
The Life President of Pike Rovers, Ger Frawley lost his wife Nancy to illness today. Nancy was a lifelong stalwart of the club and will be sorely missed.
Perhaps this silly bickering can stop for a while now as a mark of respect to Nancy and her family.
Ar dheis De go raibh a anam dilis.
by the sound of it they are supporting their own...carew park....i wonder how many other clubs will look for the points especially the clubs going for the league...fairview..regional..boro....watch this space
Is it not true that Pike played an illegal player? intentionally or not? the fact that you got away with it for 1 or 2 rounds doesnt make it acceptable. I know that you must be really hurting about how it has all been handled and that you were so close to the final, but would you seriously be happy to be looking at the 'holy grail' in the trophy cabinet of your fine clubhouse with 'this' hanging over you??
Roll up your selves, get the paper work in order, dot all the i's cross all the t's and make 2011 Pikes year, if you ever needed motivation you have it now
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