Simon Cox (F Western Sydney Wanderers b.1987)

**Jicked** · 05/01/2010, 6:59 PM

Originally Posted by yapster

So you don't think Paul McGraths African heritage had nothing to do with his skill as a footballer?

Of course it didn't, it's ridiculous to say otherwise.

I'd love to see the 'African' heritage of most of Brazil's squad. Do you mean the fact they're black? Perhaps the Brazilian footballing culture and style has a little more to do with it?
As for players that are of African descent, it might help them be tall which can be an obvious attribute, y'know, unless their heritage is of a rather small African people. Like say Claude Mak�l�l�.

And I'm going to stop now because this is quite possibly the most ridiculous footballing debate I've ever had.

**EastTerracer** · 05/01/2010, 7:10 PM

Originally Posted by yapster

Brady was half English....

WTF? Where did you get that one from?

**Brendan 82** · 05/01/2010, 7:13 PM

The Nigerian guy in my 6 a side team is feckin brutal, good dude though. The Japanese guy on the other hand is brilliant, but a bit of a jerk. Discuss

**leedslad** · 05/01/2010, 7:17 PM

Originally Posted by yapster

There is no such thing as an Irish born foreigner, if you are born & bred on the Island of Ireland you are Irish regardless of color or creed!!

Yes if people of Irish descent feel they are Irish then they are Irish. I accept that 2nd generation Irish should be entitled to play for their parents country but the granny thing is taking the ****.

As with many of your posts, you contradict yourself here, saying if born and bred in ireland you are irish
If born of irish descent and feel irish, you're irish, but surely these irish descent guys were born and bred in (let's say) england, which by your logic makes them english

**yapster** · 05/01/2010, 7:32 PM

Originally Posted by EastTerracer

WTF? Where did you get that one from?

His mother is English.

You can't deny the African influence in sports son.

Irish people love to go on about the Irishness of successful people of other countries, Boxers like Ali ffs. The fighting Irish thing and the never say die attitude in foreign sportspeople with Irish heritage or is that ridiculous too?
Is it like some Irish people saying that Man Utd liverpool & Celtic are Irish clubs in essence.That they have the Irish Spirit?

Yes Brady & Best were very specially gifted Irish players no doubt and there are others but all I'm saying is that McGraths African heritage helped him in his game,of course his Irishness helped greatly as well.

**Brendan 82** · 05/01/2010, 7:53 PM

Originally Posted by yapster

His mother is English.

You can't deny the African influence in sports son.

Irish people love to go on about the Irishness of successful people of other countries, Boxers like Ali ffs. The fighting Irish thing and the never say die attitude in foreign sportspeople with Irish heritage or is that ridiculous too?
Is it like some Irish people saying that Man Utd liverpool & Celtic are Irish clubs in essence.That they have the Irish Spirit?

Yes Brady & Best were very specially gifted Irish players no doubt and there are others but all I'm saying is that McGraths African heritage helped him in his game,of course his Irishness helped greatly as well.

Wow. Just...wow. Scary

**yapster** · 05/01/2010, 8:07 PM

Quick question, if Aldridge & co played for England or Scotland in Houghtons case would that have made them English but since they chose out of desperation to opt for Ireland does that make them Irish or English?

**EastTerracer** · 05/01/2010, 8:18 PM

Originally Posted by yapster

His mother is English.

I've never heard this before. She had a very definite Dublin accent whenever I heard her interviewed on TV or on video so I'm very surprised to hear she was English. Maybe she moved to Dublin as a child or something.

**SkStu** · 05/01/2010, 8:20 PM

Originally Posted by yapster

Quick question, if Aldridge & co played for England or Scotland in Houghtons case would that have made them English but since they chose out of desperation to opt for Ireland does that make them Irish or English?

it definitely makes Houghton english and makes Aldridge, according to my heritage calculator, Nepalese.

Interesting.

**yapster** · 05/01/2010, 8:25 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

it definitely makes Houghton english and makes Aldridge, according to my heritage calculator, Nepalese.

Interesting.

you know what I mean, Scottish or Irish then?

**SkStu** · 05/01/2010, 8:41 PM

he was born in Scotland but has Irish blood and felt sufficient affinity to the country to play with Ireland. Its pretty simple, i think youre over-analysing this.

**yapster** · 05/01/2010, 8:52 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

he was born in Scotland but has Irish blood and felt sufficient affinity to the country to play with Ireland. Its pretty simple, i think youre over-analysing this.

That was his choice of course yet he has said that when he came back into the dressing-room after an Ireland game the first thing he did was to find out how Scotland go on.

**tetsujin1979** · 05/01/2010, 9:02 PM

ok, what the hell has Nigerian blood got to do with Simon Cox?
Can we get half of this thread deleted?

**yapster** · 05/01/2010, 9:07 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

ok, what the hell has Nigerian blood got to do with Simon Cox?
Can we get half of this thread deleted?

I agree 100%

**Stuttgart88** · 05/01/2010, 9:32 PM

The solution is simple: get more africans to donate blood in Ireland.

I cam barely believe what I'm reading above.

**yapster** · 05/01/2010, 9:36 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

The solution is simple: get more africans to donate blood in Ireland.

I cam barely believe what I'm reading above.

you know what I mean...

**SilkCut** · 05/01/2010, 9:51 PM

Originally Posted by yapster

you know what I mean...

Are you perhaps trying to say that if you have a love for Ireland and are qualified to play for them then fair play and welcome aboard, but if you are qualified to play for Ireland and only do it to add international player to your C.V. then **** off? If so thats fine, if not, I for one am lost!!

As for the blood thing... mate give it up you just look stupid. Remember the mad German who wanted to populate the world based on peoples blood lines???? He was a terrible player too......

**Paddy Garcia** · 05/01/2010, 9:53 PM

I hope Simon Cox doesn't read this thread

**yapster** · 05/01/2010, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by SilkCut

Are you perhaps trying to say that if you have a love for Ireland and are qualified to play for them then fair play and welcome aboard, but if you are qualified to play for Ireland and only do it to add international player to your C.V. then **** off? If so thats fine, if not, I for one am lost!!

As for the blood thing... mate give it up you just look stupid. Remember the mad German who wanted to populate the world based on peoples blood lines???? He was a terrible player too......

Come back down to earth a small bit son, stop making a big deal over nothing...

You got the first one right btw...