QuoteOr common sense...Originally Posted by red bellied
And where the f,uck is he going to get good coaching ?
Or common sense...
I know yer annoyed, we all are, but that's just ridiculous. Fair enough he was terrible tonight but worse than Holmes?
Life without Rovers, it makes no sense...it's a heartache...nothing but a fools game. S.R.F.C.
Lads, i agree with most of what is being said. Cook maybe is being stubborn in not willing to change his tactics and trying to prove a point but in fairness if thats the case then no-one is going to win!he needs to change it, he has nothing to lose! i find it astounding that full time players can go out and perform so badly. Cook, Carr and the players themselves should ensure that they are flying fit, but obviously they are not!
If it was me, i would trim the squad, get rid of players who simply arent doing it! as regards Cook if i was replacing him then i would get someone like Gavin Dykes (i know not a popular choice) but he would get the players fit and he would put a rocket up most of them!! which is badly needed. Cook needs to realise that pretty football is a thing of the past as this stage of the season. we need to pick up points, play one up front, sort of the defence, five in midfield and grind out some results as Drogheda have been doing!
I still think they will be safe, due to the fact we still have to play Braw, Drogheda, Galway, Pats and there games i think we can win,but as said above changes needed to be made and FAST!!!
Dykesy Dykesy Dykesy
Just want to say i think it would be very unwise to get rid of cookie now. This is the first rough patch he's been through since coming here and i have confidence in him to come through it. He hasn't suddenly turned into a bad manager overnight,granted he's made mistakes but who hasn't. Any club that's ever been succesful has had stability,in terms of sticking with a manager. I still believe we've got a good one here and it would be stupid to let him go. Last year he could do no wrong and now people want him out at the first sign of trouble??we need to get behind him and have everybody pulling in the same direction for the rest of the season. The alternative is to sack him,waste more money paying him off and get somebody in who may need time to familiarise himself with the players etc,time we don't have. And i don't think there would even be too many decent candidates out there anyway. I really think we would regret letting him go,he's a good manager and he can get us out of this. Keep the faith...
Ya lets sack Cook and bring in Gavin Dykes, he will turn it around. Jesus it was bad but it wasn't that bad.
Cook wants to succeed as a manager, he does care about Rovers but I don't know what has changed this season because our organisation and shape has totally gone. I would like to think that he is trying to address it, but it doesn't look that way on the pitch.
People shouting **** off back to Liverpool in the main stand etc, not even worth addressing. But it was a complete disgrace tonight.
I still believe in Paul Cook, this club has come so far since our return to the PD, we've grown a lot as a club and attendances have been quite good this year, it could easily set us back years if we go down. Cookie took us to the impossible last year, who would have thought that when we were releasing players and in dire straits that he would take us to Europe.
The Cookie that we knew would be appalled by seeing a team of his playing like they did tonight. We'll see now if he is a good manager or a bottle. For now, I'm sticking with him.
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Just to note...I was kidding.
Did you think Kendrick was good tonight Sligoman? I thought he was poor, Bar his game in Dalymount he has been poor imo, both players are slow Holmes a little more so ok, but Holmes can defend Kendrick can't, Kendrick can attack and people think thats great, i think it means nothing if the player can't defend which is what a defender is meant to do. I honestly don't see an improvement in that position, i hope i am proved wrong by the way and you are proved right for the first time ever against me
How can you say Homles is a better defender? Thats b*****ksDid you think Kendrick was good tonight Sligoman? I thought he was poor, Bar his game in Dalymount he has been poor imo, both players are slow Holmes a little more so ok, but Holmes can defend Kendrick can't, Kendrick can attack and people think thats great, i think it means nothing if the player can't defend which is what a defender is meant to do. I honestly don't see an improvement in that position, i hope i am proved wrong by the way and you are proved right for the first time ever against me
Homles was never anything other than a cheap option, average buy, 'do a job' left full.
His defending was terrible in general, his positional sense was poor and he hadnt the ability to make up ground after that. He wasnt even fulltime (at least by the time he left).
Kendrick was very poor tonight, he would probably say that himself, but he had a fine game against Pats, decent games against Dundalk and Galway and those that were at it are saying he was good against Bohs
Give it a break
dont see why people are calling for cooks head. how many managers are available out there that will come in and magically turn things around in a 12 game period? they would need time to get to know the squad and we simply dont have that. no matter if we disagree with his tactics and methods, he is our best hope to get us out of it at this stage.
brush had a desperate game but his howler made no difference to the result, we were well bet at that stage. its rare the lad lets us down in fairness
dont see what good boooing the team does, they know as well as we do that it wasnt good enough, tossers in the main stand shouting abuse at people who clapped players off, what does this achieve can anyone tell me?
and once again shocking referreeing standard, many simple decisions and fouls going against both teams for no apparent reason, at least they're consistent i suppose. only purpose i can see for linesmen is to give wrong offside decisions, lucky one of them felt sorry for us because from my view farren had a perfect goal ruled off
No that my opinion, agianst Galway he was pathetic, that was Kendricks worst performance, as for his game v Dundalk not sure how you can say he played well or had a decent game? We shipped 4 and he was caught out and lucky not to give away a peno a couple of times. Holmes trained once a week Kendrick is a full timer i can't see any diifference between the two bar we were not conceding 4 goals a game when Holmes was in the side.
Last edited by Rovers Maniac; 12/08/2009 at 12:30 AM.
By the way anybody know if there is any chance O'Grady will be back on Saturday?
Probably straight to the pub for a drink with the lawds!!
Pathetic stuff tonight.
At the end of the day the book stops at the manager. Not good enough, rightly booed off! People say they cant see the point in booing a team off, sure whats the bloody point in standing up and clapping a bunch of lazy sh!ts who wouldnt bother their arse?People pay good money to see that and they have every right to vent their frustration in any way they seem fit..
I have no faith in Cook getting us out of this. I'm constantly remembering his time at Southport, similiar situation, times were tough and he simply didn't have what it took.
Up the Rowvers!
Glad to see the Cookie is finally crumbling...
20/03/2008
I hate to say I told you so..
MD
You went back 17 months to drag up that pointless post?
Cook hardly failed this season because we lost Matthew Judge, who is the only Sean Connor signing we lost in the off season.
He's a terrible manager. He took over a very good team and gradually as he's had a chance to mould it into his own its got worse.
I said this would happen and that they would get relegated, something that looks a very real possibility.
MD
OMG ...a finguck disaster!!!
Things need to change but we have the squad we have and the manager and both should be kept until the end of the season!!!
I said it yday - its time for ugly football, massive clearances, big tackles and a huge work rate!
Cookie has to change his style - No point in trying to keep possession if we lose the ball in dangerous positions!
COG has to return as he may be short a yard of pace but he is a better defensive midfielder than anyone else at the club - if we got peers back i would put ventre and COG as 2 defensive midfielders and consolidate and hopefully build on that!
Confidence would return with a few results and booing (whilst it is your right!) only adds to the problem!
Booing is absolutely justified in my opinion. The players have to know last nights performance is not acceptable. Dont know why some of these players were brought in as they dont look good enough, mcgrath is **** weak, camano is a liability though i would like to see a bit more of marshall he at least tried to put himself about.
I wouldnt criticize brush, every keeper makes a howler now and then and the defence is under so much pressure because they arent getting any protection from midfield. By and large he has been great for us. Neither McGrath, Ryan or O'Grady are good enough. Dont understand why people defend ogrady, he is pedestrian in every game. Ryan can be useful at left full, but not centre of midfield. It is interesting that anyone who plays there plays exactly the same way, stupid negative short passes back and sideways, no-one putting the foot in. Coincidence or tactics? i dont know.
Last night bar 1 or 2 it looked like the players think they are relegated already.
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