Tipp South & District League 2009/10

**ronburgundy** · 29/07/2009, 1:18 PM

anybody know when the fixtures are out????????

**balls** · 29/07/2009, 1:42 PM

prem fixtures at least should be out in next few week

**ronburgundy** · 29/07/2009, 2:08 PM

another thing i must get off my chest b4 the new season is the oscars situation. i hope that its run correctly this year and people are picked on merit. eg. barry ryan got player of the year and wasnt selected, doesnt make sense. maybe its because of the influence of chalky in the selection process. it should be made a level playing field so that players will be encouraged and feel proud to represent the league, it shouldnt be town/saints old friends fc

**Freddy** · 29/07/2009, 3:34 PM

Two sides to the whole Oscar situation..firstly,Chalkies influence is detremental to it being taken seriously by a lot of players. Secondly, linking in with the first point, a lot of players dont want to be selected for the team because its more time and effort than its worth. All in all, the Oscar team isnt seen as something to aspire to for any player in the league i think.....this is as a result of the above reasons and much more!!

**hooper74** · 29/07/2009, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by maxwellsmart

Please, don't be an idiot. Of course the number of goals is relevant. The Barry Ryan fan club(Den Perry, Tipp Top, Mega Tots and of course Hooper74) on here have been putting up in lights the number of goals scored by him and how he is a top class player. When Ron questioned his success at LOI level, Hooper kindly responded with the stats that Ryan did indeed play LOI first team - 12 times no less. Now, I believe its reasonable to ask how many goals he scored at that level, seeing as his supporters here go on about this goalscoring prowess so much.

i dont think its a fan club by any means,its a guy being judged on a perceived opinion of his character and not based on football,he has been one of the most prolific goalscorers in tsdl over 10 years,i never said it was 12,it was a dozen or more and i know he scored v kildare and athlone but i reckon thats about it but he did operate in midfield mostly and how many tsdl players have played double figure LOI games? seems to be an agenda with maxwell and ron if you read the posts whereas town fan and few more will question his character but never his ability and then myself or tipp top or den perry who will defend a good player is immediately accused of being barry ryan or in love with him,its a football forum not a personality contest and anyone who knows the guy will tell you how popular he is in his own dressing room,apologies for the rant

**ronburgundy** · 30/07/2009, 9:03 AM

Originally Posted by hooper74

i dont think its a fan club by any means,its a guy being judged on a perceived opinion of his character and not based on football,he has been one of the most prolific goalscorers in tsdl over 10 years,i never said it was 12,it was a dozen or more and i know he scored v kildare and athlone but i reckon thats about it but he did operate in midfield mostly and how many tsdl players have played double figure LOI games? seems to be an agenda with maxwell and ron if you read the posts whereas town fan and few more will question his character but never his ability and then myself or tipp top or den perry who will defend a good player is immediately accused of being barry ryan or in love with him,its a football forum not a personality contest and anyone who knows the guy will tell you how popular he is in his own dressing room,apologies for the rant

it is a pointless excercise to have a debate with somebody who doesnt know the difference between fact and fiction, so i give up

**AB84** · 30/07/2009, 9:46 AM

Originally Posted by hooper74

an excellent point,hes played league of ireland and won an fai junior cup,paul tobin,barry ryan and him were the next 3 if i had 8,paul will be irreplaceable for town next yr,how are they shaping up?

Town havnt signed anyone as far as i know and ive heard young evan mcguire who broke into the team at the end of last season is going to Waterford Bohs..Celtic meanwhile have signed Simon Scully and Mark Power from Town two good young players ,Power was at Aston Villa for a time a couple of years ago

**maxwellsmart** · 30/07/2009, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by hooper74

i dont think its a fan club by any means,its a guy being judged on a perceived opinion of his character and not based on football,he has been one of the most prolific goalscorers in tsdl over 10 years,i never said it was 12,it was a dozen or more and i know he scored v kildare and athlone but i reckon thats about it but he did operate in midfield mostly and how many tsdl players have played double figure LOI games? seems to be an agenda with maxwell and ron if you read the posts whereas town fan and few more will question his character but never his ability and then myself or tipp top or den perry who will defend a good player is immediately accused of being barry ryan or in love with him,its a football forum not a personality contest and anyone who knows the guy will tell you how popular he is in his own dressing room,apologies for the rant

Last time I checked, 12 was the same thing as a dozen...

Hooper,for a Saints fan, you know a hell of a lot about Barry's career, both LOI and TSDL!!

**maxwellsmart** · 30/07/2009, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by ronburgundy

it is a pointless excercise to have a debate with somebody who doesnt know the difference between fact and fiction, so i give up

well said

**ronburgundy** · 30/07/2009, 3:21 PM

i see saints beat fairview in a friendly at the weekend, they must really fancy their chances this season against a weakened town

**bishbash** · 30/07/2009, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by AB84

Town havnt signed anyone as far as i know and ive heard young evan mcguire who broke into the team at the end of last season is going to Waterford Bohs..Celtic meanwhile have signed Simon Scully and Mark Power from Town two good young players ,Power was at Aston Villa for a time a couple of years ago

Simon Scully has signed afaik but mark power has not.

**Freddy** · 31/07/2009, 2:02 PM

Can we move on from the whole Barry ryan thing please? As Hooper said it is a football forum and i personally think this particular issue has been discussed enough. Good points have been made on both sides of the arguement, but at the end of the day it is getting a bit worn out now. Lets keep personal opinions on a player out of it and stick to the football issues please!
The Saints result against Fairview was pretty impressive alright but i would question whether Fairview fielded a team that will be similar to a team they will field in the latter stages of the season...just a thought!
Any updates on fixtures yet?? Whatever the opening fixtures are, you can be sure of one thing,,Saints will have an easy one or two games to open their campaign with as is the case most seasons due to the Chalkie factor. This isnt meant as an offence at all,,but it is transparent enough that they have had easier opposition in their opening games in the last few seasons as opposed to Town for example. Interesting to see the opening few fixtures this season!!

**hooper74** · 31/07/2009, 8:00 PM

excellent point freddy....lets talk football,isnt about time the oscar traynor situation was sorted out,surely if all the clubs agree no player should be involved in selection then we can all move on

**DrRobert** · 31/07/2009, 8:19 PM

Originally Posted by Freddy

Can we move on from the whole Barry ryan thing please? As Hooper said it is a football forum and i personally think this particular issue has been discussed enough. Good points have been made on both sides of the arguement, but at the end of the day it is getting a bit worn out now. Lets keep personal opinions on a player out of it and stick to the football issues please!
The Saints result against Fairview was pretty impressive alright but i would question whether Fairview fielded a team that will be similar to a team they will field in the latter stages of the season...just a thought!
Any updates on fixtures yet?? Whatever the opening fixtures are, you can be sure of one thing,,Saints will have an easy one or two games to open their campaign with as is the case most seasons due to the Chalkie factor. This isnt meant as an offence at all,,but it is transparent enough that they have had easier opposition in their opening games in the last few seasons as opposed to Town for example. Interesting to see the opening few fixtures this season!!

freddy i dont understand your point,saying that we get easy games starting off,it is a stupid and pointless argument and your only tryin to make something outa nothing.this vendetta against saints is obvious coming from a clonmel town supporter but be realistic for gods sake.ye've won the league 6 years in a row,and i take my hat off to ye,but stop complaining about something that is nothing.easy games startin off.next thing you'll say we pick the refs or somethin..if anyone is doin it ye are.

**hooper74** · 31/07/2009, 10:31 PM

in fairness if saints allegedly get easier games starting off ten they would have the hardest run in at the most nerve wracking time of the season,so there is no unfair advantages,the best team always wins the league

**DrRobert** · 01/08/2009, 1:35 PM

Originally Posted by hooper74

in fairness if saints allegedly get easier games starting off ten they would have the hardest run in at the most nerve wracking time of the season,so there is no unfair advantages,the best team always wins the league

well said.my point exactly.it was a stupid statement.i expected more comin from a clonmel town man.

**Freddy** · 01/08/2009, 5:55 PM

I take back what i said..my apologies to Doc and Hooper..you are right, it doesnt really matter what the fixtures are,,as you said, the best team always wins the league anyway!!

**hooper74** · 01/08/2009, 7:38 PM

and nobody is debating the fact town are the best side,their record is unquestionable,you can be lucky in cup competitions but the league table never lies and last yrs table shows town are the best but saints and villa are gettin much closer

**Freddy** · 03/08/2009, 5:01 PM

Agreed! I think last season was much tighter than previous years and i believe it will be even closer this year. Pretty much every team is capable of taking points off every other team...should be very interesting.

**Mega Tots** · 04/08/2009, 5:47 AM

Originally Posted by maxwellsmart

Please, don't be an idiot. Of course the number of goals is relevant. The Barry Ryan fan club(Den Perry, Tipp Top, Mega Tots and of course Hooper74) on here have been putting up in lights the number of goals scored by him and how he is a top class player. When Ron questioned his success at LOI level, Hooper kindly responded with the stats that Ryan did indeed play LOI first team - 12 times no less. Now, I believe its reasonable to ask how many goals he scored at that level, seeing as his supporters here go on about this goalscoring prowess so much.

i know we have moved on from this point but i had to laugh at the ridiculous nature of this comment...its a junior website so whats LOI got to do with it.....i was at the clonmel celtic game where villa had to win to force a last game decider with town....they won 3-2 and barry scored all 3, he also scored in the decider where they beat town 3-2 so this craic where he only scores against poor sides is hilarious,its a junior website so lets focus on that,has mcgrath and coady left town? i think town should sign barry and i know he would love to play there again whether or not he would admit it and he would be a perfect replacement for moroney,too much politics gets in the way