Cork AUL 2009/10

**Innishvilla** · 24/07/2009, 7:56 AM

Well back to AUL matters. Interesting comment at the end of the announcement of date for season start:

The season will commence on W\E 22-23 August with 2 x weeks of night matches.
Any team whose home pitch is not available at the start of the season must procure a pitch OR arrange to play their home games on their opponent's pitch.

Now hopefully it'll get back to just AUL discussions. If I wanted to read people b*tching at each other I'd just go have a read of one of the Limerick pages. I'm fully for everyone has a right to their own opinion but you must also respect the others opinion too.

**thebooboys** · 24/07/2009, 12:08 PM

Did anyone here that mintys casement revolution is over before it even began.

**el nino coro** · 24/07/2009, 12:49 PM

why is he on his way to leeside?

**olachico** · 24/07/2009, 1:20 PM

Any team whose home pitch is not available at the start of the season must procure a pitch OR arrange to play their home games on their opponent's pitch.

The AUL had a few problems with this last year so i can understand them enforcing this rule! Games called off at the start of the year etc!!

**Casement_Fella** · 24/07/2009, 1:41 PM

Originally Posted by thebooboys

Did anyone here that mintys casement revolution is over before it even began.

Rumours going around is that Niall Harrington, the junior manager, was asked to bring his junior side up as the MSL senior team. To be honest we finished last season with a strong team and with the new signings recently made the commitee think we would have a very good senior side. So minty out, niall in. A lot to ask of a young manager but we're pretty confident he will step up to the plate!!!!!

**littleman** · 24/07/2009, 3:03 PM

What if the best players in your club wanted to stick together, say because they are buddies, the A team manager could force them to play with the first team, but they may walk. Minty may thought that if the B players had had no interest in doin whats best for the club then he may not want to be envolved with something like that.

**thebooboys** · 24/07/2009, 3:05 PM

Hey el nino coro where good down here for a coach. ye should get on to him he will bring ye up some well needed players.

**Casement_Fella** · 24/07/2009, 3:27 PM

Littleman, it's not that they do not want to do whats best for the club. The junior team took on lot of ballyphehane celtic players when they folded. The junior team was stronger than the senior team last season. Niall put in a lot of hard work with these players and got a nice squad together. The commitee aproached him and asked him to do whats best for the club and go senior. I don't think Minty had much of a choice to be honest.

**olachico** · 24/07/2009, 4:20 PM

Originally Posted by Casement_Fella

Littleman, it's not that they do not want to do whats best for the club. The junior team took on lot of ballyphehane celtic players when they folded. The junior team was stronger than the senior team last season. Niall put in a lot of hard work with these players and got a nice squad together. The commitee aproached him and asked him to do whats best for the club and go senior. I don't think Minty had much of a choice to be honest.

I for one would be curious to know why this didnt happen BEFORE Minty was appointed??

**littleman** · 24/07/2009, 6:10 PM

Fair point Casement but remember all we have to go on here is either what we have heard ourselves or what we have read.

I remember last season it did stand out that certain players were after going to your Aul side.

Players that everybody would have thought would have wanted to play at a higher level so we cant be blamed for thinking its a bit strange.All the same as long as they stay with your club its a good thing an how its all handled should be your own buisness.Your manager sounds like he has the respect of the players,junior or senior an thats all he can ask for.Best of luck.

Rebel sorry for the delay in gettin back to your question about the Liverpool coach'es up in our place.There were actually 3 of them that turned up.They had sent us over a couple of DVD'S of how they do their club pre season an we have bein trying to go along those lines but adapting it to suit a non pro side.They gave us pointers on what we need to be doing in pre season and then they spoke to the large group of players there an had a question an answer session about how their first pre season team training is done.Very impressive it was too.All in all it was a great experience for the lads.

**kingcorner** · 24/07/2009, 6:21 PM

Alright lads

just a quick update on all things leeside. training is well under way now and everyone seems to be enjoying it anyway. both the a team and the b team are getting good numbers so hopefully that keeps up and we are both going for silver this year.

we were due also to enter a c team this year and hopefully we will get the numbers for that aswell and numbers dont die off like most years when people cant handle the training. everyone at the club really wants to give things a go this year and everyone seems committed on the a team and b team, so far........

also it looks like derek is leaving but where is anyone's guess

**pass&move** · 24/07/2009, 6:39 PM

Originally Posted by Casement_Fella

Littleman, it's not that they do not want to do whats best for the club. The junior team took on lot of ballyphehane celtic players when they folded. The junior team was stronger than the senior team last season. Niall put in a lot of hard work with these players and got a nice squad together. The commitee aproached him and asked him to do whats best for the club and go senior. I don't think Minty had much of a choice to be honest.

I wouldn't say that the junior's were stronger, its just that they had some good players that were playing in the lower divisions

**pacman** · 24/07/2009, 7:45 PM

Originally Posted by littleman

Fair point Casement but remember all we have to go on here is either what we have heard ourselves or what we have read.

I remember last season it did stand out that certain players were after going to your Aul side.

Players that everybody would have thought would have wanted to play at a higher level so we cant be blamed for thinking its a bit strange.All the same as long as they stay with your club its a good thing an how its all handled should be your own buisness.Your manager sounds like he has the respect of the players,junior or senior an thats all he can ask for.Best of luck.

Rebel sorry for the delay in gettin back to your question about the Liverpool coach'es up in our place.There were actually 3 of them that turned up.They had sent us over a couple of DVD'S of how they do their club pre season an we have bein trying to go along those lines but adapting it to suit a non pro side.They gave us pointers on what we need to be doing in pre season and then they spoke to the large group of players there an had a question an answer session about how their first pre season team training is done.Very impressive it was too.All in all it was a great experience for the lads.

Hey littleman, any chance you could give us a high level overview of what their pre-season routine looks like. I'd be interested to know if they do anything really advanced or do they do the basics at proffessional level also?

Don't worry you wont be showing your hand to all the other teams........

**littleman** · 24/07/2009, 8:22 PM

Well Pac I would have be like you in thinkin that they had some really fantactic way of gettin the players really fit quick but it aint.We were told their first team are away in China at the minute an they have 3, 2 hour sessions a day,cardio,weights an stamina in that order.

We have tried to encorporate 2 of the 3 with our hour an 45 mins,an a small game of ball to keep the boys happy at the end.15 mins max.Cause with most of the lads workin before they train doin weights may not be greeted well so we have left that one out.Twas an eye opener alright as they said they dont do any ball work till 2 weeks before the first game.They are pros so ball skills arent a problem to them,well there not supposed to be anyway.Ngog

Our lads thought pre season training for the an hour an 45 mis Tuesday,Thursday an Saturday is though never mind what the pros do.They told me that when the players finish the season an go on holiday they get diet plans an fitness plans an they have to keep with in certain limits with regards to food an drink.But with regards to startin basic pre season,hard work an lots of it was the key according to them.Small hard running as opposed to long runs which was a surprise to me because as long as Iv been doin pre season the long laps around the pitch was always considered a must..Short quick bursts of work,with only a little time in between the routines to get your wind back and try to keep the intensity up all the time.Must be some life though,gettin up every day to go training an play ball,paradise.

**rebelhead** · 24/07/2009, 8:41 PM

cheers for the info littleman,any chance of those dvds???lads on paddy power the betting has started on the fai junior cup for next year,looking at the odds the first aul team r kinsale at 40/1,fairly high,quiet funny i must say!pre season going well for us,very tough lot of hard work,on the plus side lot of work being done to pitch,so hopefully any team that come us to this year will enjoy playing on our pitch,i know its not the best in the aul,but as we said before there is a lot worse,lads let have a vote worsed pitch in the aul?????

**pacman** · 24/07/2009, 8:55 PM

Originally Posted by littleman

Well Pac I would have be like you in thinkin that they had some really fantactic way of gettin the players really fit quick but it aint.We were told their first team are away in China at the minute an they have 3, 2 hour sessions a day,cardio,weights an stamina in that order.

We have tried to encorporate 2 of the 3 with our hour an 45 mins,an a small game of ball to keep the boys happy at the end.15 mins max.Cause with most of the lads workin before they train doin weights may not be greeted well so we have left that one out.Twas an eye opener alright as they said they dont do any ball work till 2 weeks before the first game.They are pros so ball skills arent a problem to them,well there not supposed to be anyway.Ngog

Our lads thought pre season training for the an hour an 45 mis Tuesday,Thursday an Saturday is though never mind what the pros do.They told me that when the players finish the season an go on holiday they get diet plans an fitness plans an they have to keep with in certain limits with regards to food an drink.But with regards to startin basic pre season,hard work an lots of it was the key according to them.Small hard running as opposed to long runs which was a surprise to me because as long as Iv been doin pre season the long laps around the pitch was always considered a must..Short quick bursts of work,with only a little time in between the routines to get your wind back and try to keep the intensity up all the time.Must be some life though,gettin up every day to go training an play ball,paradise.

Cheers for that Littleman.
Like you littleman most of my pre-seasons included the long laps and continuos running. Then one year we had a guy come in specifically for pre-season. It was all high intensity, short breaks, not a single lap the entire pre-season. And it was definitely the best shape our team was ever in.

Munster and Cork hurlers utilize this type of training also, so definitely the days of long runs are in the past. Slow running equals slow players.

Sounds like things are going well up in O'Neill Park, anyone know how Blarney Street are getting on? Would like to see the league return to the northside.

**pacman** · 24/07/2009, 8:57 PM

Originally Posted by rebelhead

lads let have a vote worsed pitch in the aul?????

think we did last year, but anyway has to be silverheights. Village back in the premier, lots of teams looking forward to that one.

I've never seen so many German Sheppards in one place.

Seeing as we have a Dillons Cross member on board now, thats nearly as bad....

**littleman** · 24/07/2009, 9:34 PM

Sorry Rebel but any little things that can give us an edge this year we are keepin strictly to ourselves

.But what I will say is the internet if full of sites offerin info on pre season routines ,have a look.

With regards to pitchs,look lads some of ye are lucky to have great pitchs,some of us wish we could have better an no doubt theres some that dont care what they play on.Village an Dillons place may not be paradise but if anyone has any ideas about winning a league you still have to beat them on there home ground an they can play ball too lets not forget.Village have a good bunch of players and are back preseason at this stage nearly 4 weeks.They wont struggle for numbers either so I'd expect them to do well.Our own place is'nt great but knowone can fault us for trying to get it as good as we can thats for sure.All the one what ya play on you still have to win.

With regards to the Street,I know they were back pre season last Tue but thats it.Very quiet other than that.

One thing I will say lads is that teams will find it hard this year,especially Northside teams.Too many teams an not enought players is startin to take a heavy toll on clubs.From the various rumors doin the rounds their seems to be clubs senior and junior(us encluded) chasin after a smaller an smaller pool of players.Tough times ahead lads.

**olachico** · 24/07/2009, 9:41 PM

Last year I was in Dubai in early June! Treated myself to a nice holiday in one of the top hotels in Dubai! It looks out at the 7 star hotel - there is a point to this so keep reading LOL - Anyway Jon Stead was there as was Joleon Lescott and Steve Harper from Newcastle (think its the same hotel where John Terry and Joleon Lescott were being tapped up by Mark Hughes this year) . Anyway the place had one of the best equipped Gyms I have ever seen ! And these 3 were in there everyday - and in fairness they were doing pretty heavy duty training when they were on holidays so Littleman is spot on with regards to the fitness programs they get - unfortunately we cant do the same when fellas are heading to Benidorm for 2 weeks or wherever they go - pre season is vital in junior football if its done right - too intense and the players are ****ed for the start of the season - not intense enough and you are struggling towards the end of games at the start of the season - Do people here feel its hard to get the balance right?

**littleman** · 24/07/2009, 10:00 PM

The whole thing hinges on 2 things,ATTITUDE / COMMITMENT.
If you have players who want to work hard to improve their game an be the fittest they can then you achive anything at your level.

Look lads we have all wished we could train like the pros an have the best of everything.An we couldnt because we never got the chance an now we have wifes an kids an jobs an thats our lot in life .We know our level.

But it cost nothin to have a pro attitude dose it.I want to train hard.I want to improve.I want ot win things.All this you can do for free.

Look up how the pros do their training,the stamina/cardio side.Suit it to your needs an away you go.Thats all it takes.Sounds easy dosent it,so why arent more of ye doin it.