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  • oriel
    Seasoned Pro
    • Mar 2006
    • 4995

    #136
    Genuine Q Micls, would the floating Cork support generally go to the St Anne’s end, or maybe that half of the main stand?

    I’d imagine the Derrynane stand being quite compact has his usual regs, and shed end would obviously be first choice for the main support, and easiest access into the ground, actually do home fans enter that way also for the main stand?

    The crowd last night would have been disappointing for Cork, yet not many would be able to attract over 6k for a big game, even with 500+ away support, so their floating support is big.

    A final point and for all clubs, worth noting the avg LOI fan attends probably 2 maybe 3 times more the amount of matches than say county GAA fans go to, their limit could be as low as 4 matches and as high as less than 10 games maybe all year, admittedly much bigger crowds, but still something to consider.
    Last edited by oriel; 02/03/2019, 1:24 PM.
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    • Kingswood Rover
      Reserves
      • Oct 2015
      • 431

      #137
      Originally posted by micls
      Anyone who claim our base was 3.5k is an idiot. I'm skeptical that there was more than one or two making that claim though.

      Our base is 2-2.5k. If we're midtable, that will be the average, as per 2013. Its a great base to have, no complaints really but anyone claiming more is delusional.

      Last night, no surprise really. A combination of the absolute shambles of last week and an absolutely miserable night. No one who was deciding after work, or who was wavering decided to go. Worst weather at the Cross in a while. Add in no away crowd (compared to an excellent waterford crowd) and I don't think anyone should have been surprised.

      Yes, our average support in very successful exciting times will be significantly higher than times of lull. As is true of any team.
      Well reasoned out, i think Rovers would be the same we have been average enough in the last 3 or so season on the pitch only time will tell with this season. If we are doing well and Cork slip then we will have the best attendance figs for the year but similarily if we are mid table our hard core is 2-2.5k.

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      • Kingswood Rover
        Reserves
        • Oct 2015
        • 431

        #138
        Originally posted by oriel
        Would any Rovers fans who would be more familiar with this stand, know approx what the figure was for the away support last night ?
        I would say it was 800 minimum i think the fact that you could get a ticket at the ground encouraged some of the Dublin based fans. I hope the club adopt the same policy for Bohs and Pats as they potentially would bring 1200 15 euro's into our fund for the project

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        • micls
          International Prospect
          • Jan 2006
          • 5019

          #139
          Originally posted by oriel
          Genuine Q Micls, would the floating Cork support generally go to the St Anne’s end, or maybe that half of the main stand?

          I’d imagine the Derrynane stand being quite compact has his usual regs, and shed end would obviously be first choice for the main support, and easiest access into the ground, actually do home fans enter that way also for the main stand?

          The crowd last night would have been disappointing for Cork, yet not many would be able to attract over 6k for a big game, even with 500+ away support, so their floating support is big.

          A final point and for all clubs, worth noting the avg LOI fan attends probably 2 maybe 3 times more the amount of matches than say county GAA fans go to, their limit could be as low as 4 matches and as high as less than 10 games maybe all year, admittedly much bigger crowds, but still something to consider.
          Generally the St Anne's is the last to fill. Most of the Derrynane and Shed would be mostly regulars. When theres not many away fans they get the far corner of the Derrynane, like Derry last night. Top half of Donie Forde would be regulars. When it's raining like last night, bottom half of Donie gets soaked, so that's empty. A few would likely have gone to the back of the St. Anne's but not many. First couple of rows of the Derrynane gets wet too, hence those being empty.

          There's over 7000 seats, so even when we've hit safe capacity, there's still 1000 empty seats around. Which leads to a lot of misjudgements around crowds.

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          • Partizan
            First Team
            • Dec 2003
            • 1088

            #140
            Originally posted by micls
            Anyone who claim our base was 3.5k is an idiot. I'm skeptical that there was more than one or two making that claim though.

            Our base is 2-2.5k. If we're midtable, that will be the average, as per 2013. Its a great base to have, no complaints really but anyone claiming more is delusional.

            Last night, no surprise really. A combination of the absolute shambles of last week and an absolutely miserable night. No one who was deciding after work, or who was wavering decided to go. Worst weather at the Cross in a while. Add in no away crowd (compared to an excellent waterford crowd) and I don't think anyone should have been surprised.

            Yes, our average support in very successful exciting times will be significantly higher than times of lull. As is true of any team.
            Our hardcore is at about the 200-300 range. They would come even if we were in the MSL. Our casuals are around 1500 or thereabouts with the rest hangers on and glory hunters. Every club has them. To hazard a guess, I'd say that our entire fanbase is around the 4.5k range. That is what we are working from. Last year we averaged about 2,500 attendance at home. We haven't done this since 2003 when Jimmy McGeough was in charge and he brought back the feel good factor. It's great to see but if something went badly wrong or if Lee Power decided to pull the plug in the morning, we could very well be back in the low hundreds like we were back in 2016. We live on a razor's edge. Such is life in our beloved League of Ireland.

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            • Yossarian
              First Team
              • Aug 2013
              • 1237

              #141
              Originally posted by Kingswood Rover
              I would say it was 800 minimum i think the fact that you could get a ticket at the ground encouraged some of the Dublin based fans. I hope the club adopt the same policy for Bohs and Pats as they potentially would bring 1200 15 euro's into our fund for the project
              I thought there was close to 1000 there for us last night. Hopefully the stewards/Guards match planning will be better for the bigger crowd that Bohs will bring as the organisation last night was shambolic. It was clear from 20 mins before the game that there was going to be a very big away support and yet it took until 20 mins into the game until another block was opened and access to another exit was available.

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              • RathfarnhamHoop
                First Team
                • Feb 2016
                • 1454

                #142
                Originally posted by Yossarian
                I thought there was close to 1000 there for us last night. Hopefully the stewards/Guards match planning will be better for the bigger crowd that Bohs will bring as the organisation last night was shambolic. It was clear from 20 mins before the game that there was going to be a very big away support and yet it took until 20 mins into the game until another block was opened and access to another exit was available.
                It was probably 900. The first 5/6 rows had netting on them (for perspective the stand is around 18 deep so that's a good bit), they started to move the nets but I guess because of the rain it was decided to just open the next block instead and very few people actually moved down to those areas, and when the next block was opened the segregation line stayed empty and gaps began to appear in the original allocation, as in not just the stairs and exits cleared but some seats were visible, as i guess some people moved for a better view with those who had to. The stand isn't quite 3,000 its around 2,700 I think so just under half of it filled with the blocked off seats is probably just under 1,000 so 900 seems about right.

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                • oriel
                  Seasoned Pro
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 4995

                  #143
                  I would say 900-1,000 away support in Tallaght last night was probably spot on, that’s fair enough about the gaps in the first few rows and that was consistent right up to the near the half way line.

                  This is a trip that suits a lot, LUAS out direct for likes of me working in the city along with dozens of others I’d imagine, then the straightforward trip home via M50/M1 for the majority of other DFC fans.
                  Last edited by oriel; 02/03/2019, 6:59 PM.
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                  • Nesta99
                    International Prospect
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8885

                    #144
                    I would say Dundalk would be about the 1800 range these days. That would jump by about 1k for a big game and then away fans are a bonus that can push attendance above the 3k. Key games later in the season and above 4k is not unlikely. Its a slightly worrying trend that year on year the average drops. If not already being done we need to be working on how to manage as not being in the mix for a title. Bohs - share the wealth of experience aand we can hope that some great pilot study type grants get rolled out league wide one day also!!.

                    Dare I mention the facility that is Oriel Park, I am not so sure that there would be a significant jump, bar the temporary novelty factor, if a new stand was built. Genuinely would it make that much of a difference to away fans if there was even a cover over the away section never mind a proper stand facility? Not taking in to consideration past experiences, annoyance with stewards, or even distance to travel?

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                    • Nesta99
                      International Prospect
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8885

                      #145
                      Originally posted by dundalkfc10
                      Wise up the ****!

                      Some crowd drom Dundalk, poor guards didn’t know what to do when they seen all the buses coming lol obvs expected our usual 4/500
                      Thats probably what a few Dublin club officials were thinking when John Caulfield was passing comment on attendances a couple of season ago!!

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                      • Martinho II
                        International Prospect
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 9841

                        #146
                        a reasonable attendance at our game last night- we reckon 676 attended the game. wasnt too many drogheda fans at it and I didnt hear any singing from them either. the bad weather conditions might have put people off I reckon!
                        Last edited by Martinho II; 03/03/2019, 6:16 PM.
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                        • slippery dodger
                          New Signing
                          • Feb 2018
                          • 2

                          #147
                          Attendances Series 4:Shamrock v Dundalk 4,705Cork V Derry 2,847Waterford V Bohs 2,415Finn Harps V Sligo Rovers 2,032UCD V St Pats 940Shelbourne V Cabinteely 1,097Bray V Limerick 1,051Longford V Drogheda 676Cobh V Athlone 300Wexford V Galway 242Overall - 16,332.

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                          • EatYerGreens
                            Seasoned Pro
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 3217

                            #148
                            Does anyone have that standard summary list of the attendances by each club over the last few seasons ?

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                            • Charlie Darwin
                              Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 18576

                              #149
                              Originally posted by EatYerGreens
                              Does anyone have that standard summary list of the attendances by each club over the last few seasons ?
                              http://www.extratime.ie/articles/221...e-report-2018/

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                              • Kingswood Rover
                                Reserves
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 431

                                #150
                                just clicked on that attendance link and Rovers first 2 home games have been better attended than their biggest gate v Bohs last season, encouraging.

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