Cork AUL 2012/13
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sorry bud and your right but i think give a year or 2 more and the 3 that left void can be filled by pearse killumney and coachford and others will come forward to i think .lots of good players in aul and we have to keep them time will tell.Comment
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If they were in the league they might have won this game but the comp i wouldnt think so . Alot of the counties have that counties premier footballers playing where as corks best players ply their trade in the msl premier or first divisionComment
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Just a note how many Leeside players where on aul team last year ? How many Kinsale players on aul team last year ? How many Wilton players ?? There was no leeside or kinsale players as far as I remember there was 4 wilton players as I remember . Daly Blake Healy and the keeper won't even try to spell his sir name . That's not a lot is it ??? Also can anyone tell me where this 3 teams finished last year ??? Don't get me wrong I have great time and respect for the 3 clubs above but stop the stupid talk that they would have supplied the aul squad with better players that we had today .Comment
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good points and how did clare do in the last ot .Just a note how many Leeside players where on aul team last year ? How many Kinsale players on aul team last year ? How many Wilton players ?? There was no leeside or kinsale players as far as I remember there was 4 wilton players as I remember . Daly Blake Healy and the keeper won't even try to spell his sir name . That's not a lot is it ??? Also can anyone tell me where this 3 teams finished last year ??? Don't get me wrong I have great time and respect for the 3 clubs above but stop the stupid talk that they would have supplied the aul squad with better players that we had today .Comment
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I dont think we should be asking "what if the Leeside, Wilton, Kinsale players were available ", because as one poster said how many players are we talking about and more to the point, they dont play AUL anymore so that point is irrelevant. At the end of the day the Clare side were too cute for the AUL side. They defended well, kept it simple and used the AULs defence as a way of attack. The warning signs were there for all to see. 4 or 5 offside decisions went our way in the first half but as we all know, all you need is one chance, or in Clares case 3 ! They scored from 2 and could have had 3. Aul defended too high and got caught out badly in each half. Did we adjust it, no. it could have been worse than 4 in my opinion. thats not to say the AUL didnt have their chances but on the day, although the AUL played well in patches, in particular, Joyce, they came up short. At least 2 guys in my opinion should have been hauled off at half time and another should got more involved with the game rather than the sideline.Comment
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While I agree we need to move on from ths conversation as teams mentioned have moved on the fact is that 3 Leeside players didn't want to play with AUL team last year or couldn't commit. Graeme Keane did play. I'll leave Wilton & Kinsale speak for themselvesJust a note how many Leeside players where on aul team last year ? How many Kinsale players on aul team last year ? How many Wilton players ?? There was no leeside or kinsale players as far as I remember there was 4 wilton players as I remember . Daly Blake Healy and the keeper won't even try to spell his sir name . That's not a lot is it ??? Also can anyone tell me where this 3 teams finished last year ??? Don't get me wrong I have great time and respect for the 3 clubs above but stop the stupid talk that they would have supplied the aul squad with better players that we had today .Comment
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Your knowledge of Clare Soccer is obviously a little shady. Clare were beaten (comprehensively) by Wexford in the final 2 years ago but obviously a good team if they got to the final. Clare also won the competition about 10 years ago so to say that its a disgrace to be beaten by Clare smacks of shock tactics. If you're going to slate Clare soccer at least know the facts. Its a very good Clare panel with a good manager. 4-1 is comprehensive and well done Clare!Comment
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Fair pay to Clare, it has to be tough coming down here and play away. I wish them luck, now lads no excuses we aren't all Liverpool fans, I hope Donal is there again next year you can't give a guy 1 season he needs time!Comment
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I think a lot of boys are getting carried away here. First and foremost I do not think there is any need to change the management. Maybe having a bit of stability in this post will bring much needed stability to the panel. Tactically I thought he played a very strong starting eleven the correct way and pressed high as a home team does. The Clare side kept their shape very well and I noticed a person watching the game yesterday from Shannon who was also watching on Wednesday night so they done their homework. I didn't see the hunger that was evident on Wednesday and as expected Clare worked hard to limit the space available. The thing is however its at times like this you expected the Cork lads to raise their game to deal with this but it didn't happen.I think Clare got it spot on tactically too by sitting holding and then hitting the Cork side on the break. They took their chances well and should be congratulated on their win
Secondly when it comes to representative football be it your league, county or country you need to lift your game above and beyond what you give every week in the league. You need to match or even better your very best on any given day. There are unfortunately pressures related to this. Some fellas deal well with that and there are others that don't. It doesn't mean that they aren't good players they more than likely enjoy the comfort of being the big fish in a small pond (their own club) Going through the motions at such a level will and cannot do. Unfortunately like in club games you can only afford to carry one or two players max who might be off their games. You cant hide in representative games when you do you're found out pretty sharpish I think yesterday too many boys were hiding. As a coach you can do very little about that when its 4 or 5 players and can only deal with it in a limited way form the bench. When the rest of the squad pull their weight and 3 or 4 others don't it has a knock on effect which we all seen on Sunday.
Ive heard a lot of opinions over the last few weeks some good some bad but most in support of the AUL side. It was a bad loss but that's football. You win some you lose some. Sunday was a bad day at the office. Lets get behind the management and players. Lets welcome them back to their clubs. The Cork Aul league is a fantastic league with players that are more than capable of gracing senior league clubs but in most cases they remain loyal to their schoolboy clubs and their locality. Facilities aren't always up to scratch which lets it down but in football terms its right up there with the best. Most if not all of the boys on here were proud and exited on the first day they played in it. It would be a shame to lose the pride after one poor day at the office.Comment
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Oh without doubt he needs another crack but i think expectations need to be lowered abit he has a load of time between now and the end of the season to see a few more players maybe it wouldnt be a bad idea to bring the panel together now and then for training with a view to next yearComment
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Crow, Alan healy, Kearney, Babsy, Calla, Graeme keane, Daly, Blakey, Jeffers, Holden all started last year against the MSL and were beat 2 nil in Turners Cross and beat again up in tipp with a slightly different team, Crow Alan Healy, Keegan,Colin Bevan, Babsy, Graeme Keane, Blakey, Daly, Kearney, Jeffers and Darren Lynch... from the first team the only 2 that played yesterday was Kearney and Babsy, the so called big and better players didn even win a game or even draw one for that matter, this years team atleast were unbeaten in there group and qualified out of the group which is a buit of progress if you ask me, its a lot of effort to make training ontop of the training your doing with your clubs, ye all comment here in the comfort of yer houses grand and warm, when them players are travelling to and from douglas hall freezing with the cold, what was expected of this team to go win it?? from the start everyone said if they got out of the group it would be a huge achievemnet and they did that.. The slating of players on here and manager is ridiculous, fairplay to them for getting out of the group its progress from last year, and add to the fact the manager had a few good players who made themselves unavailable and who knows how far they would have gone if every player was available? To say they'd be a better team with all the players gone senior is not true at all the proof is there in front of ye!!
Being realistic getting out of the group was probably the target and they achieved that so fairplay to all involvedComment
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Sorry Hubba - I didnt mean to pick JC over Darren Lynch or judge a player. The point I was making was in reference to whoever wanted to dump all the players - we may all disagree about a few but most of the squad is what we would all pick.
I think guys outside the squad underestimated Clare - Im sure the guys involved wouldnt be that silly. Clare knocked us out as holders in 2010 in the Cross in a semi to get to the Wexford final the Clare guy referred to.
To be fair lads, the Tipp team would be better than all in the Cork group this year. The MSL game last year was a mistake from the line in not solving an obvious problem, but also a stonewall pen and a ball 5 feet over the line, so lets not retire all the guys from last year yet!
The big thing learned from last year and it seems to be, is the behaviour of the AUL committee. Anyone in the dressing room in Tipp will testify to the poor post match speech, and the numerous occassions since then when the AUL committee have tried to blame the OT defeat & subsequent appeal on the re-collapse of the AUL/MSL relationship. I hope they were better yesterday.Just remember, every kick makes me stronger and more determined. Indians always come back!Comment
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