Cork AUL 2012/13

[Triggs]

Happened to be involved in a conversation last weekend about the state of football on the northside of our city. Before I go on this is not having a go of anyone or any club. It's simply calling it as it is. In the Premier League we have only 2 teams from the Northside in Blarney Street and Castleview. Both these teams have been very disappointing this season and are now involved in a relegation battle with Castleview almost certainly gone. In Premier A we have 5 teams with Glen Celtic A the only team challenging for the league. Grattan, Blackstone, Bohs and Leeds are all at the wrong end of the table. So out of the top 2 leagues in AUL football there are 7 teams with only 1 challenging.
In the MSL it's the same. In the premier we have Rockmount, St Mary's and Mayfield. Rockmount were challenging some bit but are probably gone now and both St Mary's and Mayfield are in a relegation battle too. In MSL 1st div Leeds are up there challenging but again Castleview are at the wrong end of the table. So from the top MSL leagues we have 5 teams with only 1 challenging for the league.
Is there a reason for this or is it normal. With so many teams involved surely they should be more challenging. Any one else got an opinion on it. This is not a Northside/Southside thing. When discussing this we only looked at Northside teams. I have no idea if its better or worse on the the other side of the river

[greengrass]

Happened to be involved in a conversation last weekend about the state of football on the northside of our city. Before I go on this is not having a go of anyone or any club. It's simply calling it as it is. In the Premier League we have only 2 teams from the Northside in Blarney Street and Castleview. Both these teams have been very disappointing this season and are now involved in a relegation battle with Castleview almost certainly gone. In Premier A we have 5 teams with Glen Celtic A the only team challenging for the league. Grattan, Blackstone, Bohs and Leeds are all at the wrong end of the table. So out of the top 2 leagues in AUL football there are 7 teams with only 1 challenging.
In the MSL it's the same. In the premier we have Rockmount, St Mary's and Mayfield. Rockmount were challenging some bit but are probably gone now and both St Mary's and Mayfield are in a relegation battle too. In MSL 1st div Leeds are up there challenging but again Castleview are at the wrong end of the table. So from the top MSL leagues we have 5 teams with only 1 challenging for the league.
Is there a reason for this or is it normal. With so many teams involved surely they should be more challenging. Any one else got an opinion on it. This is not a Northside/Southside thing. When discussing this we only looked at Northside teams. I have no idea if its better or worse on the the other side of the river

Too many cooks spoil the broth maybe.
Your taking all this on 1 season though?

[Triggs]

Too many cooks spoil the broth maybe.
Your taking all this on 1 season though?

ya to be fair it is only going on the facts and the tables this season. I know teams and clubs will come and go in phases, just thought it was a bit worrying that there is no Northside team challenging on the Premier and only 1 out of 5 in the Premier A. Not really bothered about MSL to be honest

[oldlegs]

Of the teams ou mentioned in aul from northside how many of them have a youth system ? I don't know myself . You need players coming through every year be it only 1 or 2 or things get stale . Not a pop off any club in prem but I could nearly name and pick must clubs starting 11 as teams haven't changed much in last few years bar Coachford this year and the clubs that went up this year. Squads need to be freshened up players looking over there shoulders etc and so forth not a pop but just something I have noticed over the years

[old-head]

Happened to be involved in a conversation last weekend about the state of football on the northside of our city. Before I go on this is not having a go of anyone or any club. It's simply calling it as it is. In the Premier League we have only 2 teams from the Northside in Blarney Street and Castleview. Both these teams have been very disappointing this season and are now involved in a relegation battle with Castleview almost certainly gone. In Premier A we have 5 teams with Glen Celtic A the only team challenging for the league. Grattan, Blackstone, Bohs and Leeds are all at the wrong end of the table. So out of the top 2 leagues in AUL football there are 7 teams with only 1 challenging.
In the MSL it's the same. In the premier we have Rockmount, St Mary's and Mayfield. Rockmount were challenging some bit but are probably gone now and both St Mary's and Mayfield are in a relegation battle too. In MSL 1st div Leeds are up there challenging but again Castleview are at the wrong end of the table. So from the top MSL leagues we have 5 teams with only 1 challenging for the league.
Is there a reason for this or is it normal. With so many teams involved surely they should be more challenging. Any one else got an opinion on it. This is not a Northside/Southside thing. When discussing this we only looked at Northside teams. I have no idea if its better or worse on the the other side of the river

IMO this tends to go in cycles and it depends when you look at the tables. For instance last year I'm nearly sure that the top 4 in the MSL Premier was Avondale, Rockmount, Mayfield & Marys!! Big turn around this year. Also last year Blarney St were doing quite well in the AUL Prem and probably finished in the TOP 4. I do think there are probably too many teams in the Northside at AUL level and they probably take from each other. Not the same competition for the likes of Coachford, Park, Kilumney. In terms of existing solid underage structure on the Northside I can think of Rockmount, Castleview, Marys, Temple, Leeds & Mayfield (sorry if I've left someone out) who are all MSL. I don't think any of the AUL sides mentioned has an underage set up, again I'm open to correction...

[our_ball_ref]

Northside teams will always struggle and continue to struggle purely over the number of teams off the top of my head Bohs, Blarney Street, castleview both teams, rockmount both teams Mary's both teams mayfields both teams, blackstone, fairview, Leeds both teams, the glen both teams, village, dillons cross, grattan, Knocknaheeny Celtic, Glenvale, Shandon, cathedral Celtic, central rovers, Blackpool Celtic, that's almost 30 teams off the top of my head I'm nearly certain there is more, and that's all prob within 5-6 miles on each other even less, then take into consideration the GAA clubs up here aswell, and players that travel outside the local clubs to play With Killumney or Coachford, if the best was picked from all them things and its been widely predicted for a while a manger is gonna try and do that then I'd he does it and I mean IF!! there will be one very very very good team up the northside next year and who knows what they will achieve

[tricksey]

Oldlegs hows yer pitch looking think our game will go ahead?

[downthewing]

Any news on condition of pitches for the weekend any games called off especially in prem and prem a

[oldlegs]

Oldlegs hows yer pitch looking think our game will go ahead?

Pitch is good to take the rain I'll be going up later to have a look and line it but as far as I know theirs about 2 feet of grass on pitch as haven't had the weather to cut it hopefully will get a chance to do it

[1fortheTeam]

Northside teams will always struggle and continue to struggle purely over the number of teams off the top of my head Bohs, Blarney Street, castleview both teams, rockmount both teams Mary's both teams mayfields both teams, blackstone, fairview, Leeds both teams, the glen both teams, village, dillons cross, grattan, Knocknaheeny Celtic, Glenvale, Shandon, cathedral Celtic, central rovers, Blackpool Celtic, that's almost 30 teams off the top of my head I'm nearly certain there is more, and that's all prob within 5-6 miles on each other even less, then take into consideration the GAA clubs up here aswell, and players that travel outside the local clubs to play With Killumney or Coachford, if the best was picked from all them things and its been widely predicted for a while a manger is gonna try and do that then I'd he does it and I mean IF!! there will be one very very very good team up the northside next year and who knows what they will achieve

its only 1 season after the last 3 going over to msl and next year might tell alot but on northside teams new seasons new teams and most wont have youths but my self and the people at the street will build a team and a squad with a long term view to things we will do it the right way but the players must come 1st and if you play the right way and are challanging for cups and leagues then things fall into place .

[killer"B"]

lads there a Monsoon of rain due 2morrow we will know more then about games id say you would never think it with the day were having 2day

[Long ball willy]

So what's the best game to go tomorrow lads

[tricksey]

Pitch is good to take the rain I'll be going up later to have a look and line it but as far as I know theirs about 2 feet of grass on pitch as haven't had the weather to cut it hopefully will get a chance to do it

Good man with a bit of luck now the rain will hold off till 5 o clock tomorow cause in fairness the sun is shining all day

[Horse24]

Didnt Littleman say last year, 22 junior sides from Apple to Mayfield? Its funny how on the Southside, you seem to be one or the other - Everton or Greenwood for example!! Though Kilreen and Casement swapped chunks of players. Is it possible to have a strong Kilreen and a strong Casement? I dunno where Perse fit in - probably more Everton connections.

It may come down to forcing teams to merge because no guy wants to be the guy who turned out the lights on 20/30 or evn 40 years of a club...and rightly so.

Underage is the way to go, but starting at Under 5, not U18. ballyvolane brought in a Youths side but were gone 3 years later.

[Horse24]

Monsoon from 8am for two days.................but the lady on RTE said it was positive cos its gonna be warm rain!!