yep finnan has developed into a quality player...not as young as many people think tho, suprised me i think hes like 29
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He did ply his trade in the lower leagues for a while (even into non-league football at one stage) before Keegan brought him to Fulham, then won promotions to the 1st division and the premiership with them to gain international recognitionOriginally posted by livehead1yep finnan has developed into a quality player...not as young as many people think tho, suprised me i think hes like 29Comment
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To be honest I don't know how much better Holland is able to look after himself. Miller is light years ahead of Holland when it comes to use of the ball, granted he is a wimp, but I think a few games beside Roy could sort that out.Originally posted by Stuttgart88I remember Radio 5 Live earlier this year describing Liam Miller as "neat & tidy, but no more" and it's tempting to say the same about Holland. Holland is much better able to look after himself though.Comment
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Just been checking on this football index
and I noticed Matt Holland in it for the first time,
(I think he just crept into it this week).
I also notice Roy Keane is on the up (highest level
I can remember for him since I started following the index).
Duff also continues to rise, he is up to eighth now although
I was surprised to see Robben drop down a bit (did he miss
a game recently?) he is just one above Roy Keane at 32.Comment
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Robben done very little in the 3 league games before the Pompey game. Duff continues to rise because he does a lot defensively. He'll be ahead of Graveson this weekend too.Originally posted by tricky_colourDuff also continues to rise, he is up to eighth now although
I was surprised to see Robben drop down a bit (did he miss
a game recently?) he is just one above Roy Keane at 32.
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Matty Holland
I just thought about this over the last couple of weeks but would there be any chance of Matthew Holland being persuaded out of retirement by Staunton. I'd fit him straight into the midfield beside Carsley for the Croker matches (presuming Andy Reid will be out injured).
Although the current state of the Charlton team being in the relegation zone and probably on their way down, Holland has impressed me in the last couple of months. But is there any way back into the international set up, even just for these 2 games in Crokker?
San Marino are going to be a handful as the group goes on." - Steve Staunton reacts to performance against San Marino.Comment
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Originally posted by CiaranIn terms of central midfielders, I'd rank them like this.
Andy Reid > Carsley > Steven Reid > Stephen Ireland > John O Shea > Liam Miller > Joey O Brien > Matt Holland.
So unless all those in front of him get injured... no chance.
I'd still pick Holland ahead of Douglas btw.
O'Shea?? Get a grip.Comment
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With Andy Reid in the center, Slovakia will tear us apart. Holland is at least as good (and more consistant) than Carsley. John O'Shea, Miller and O'Brien thats bordering on retarded. And Steven Reid is crocked.Originally posted by CiaranIn terms of central midfielders, I'd rank them like this.
Andy Reid > Carsley > Steven Reid > Stephen Ireland > John O Shea > Liam Miller > Joey O Brien > Matt Holland.
So unless all those in front of him get injured... no chance.
I'd still pick Holland ahead of Douglas btw."No regrets, none at all. My only regret is that we went out on penalties. That's my only regret. But no, no regrets." -Mick McCarthyComment
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I also think he should be called up alongside Carsley, however, I don't see it happening in a million years.Comment
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I don't think you can really compare Holland and Ireland, they fill different roles at their clubs, Holland and Barton would be more apt, or Ireland and Andy Reid.Comment
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No way would I take Holland back.
We have to win these games right? And a midfield with Carsley and Holland will do that? My hole it would. Two of the most defensively minded centre midfielders in the premiership. They actually make Neil lennon look like a dynamic creative flair player.
I'd take my chances with Ireland in there.I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.
In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.Comment
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Exactly, zero creative ability. Ireland has 2 goals in 3 games and so far has looked like our only option other than Andy Reid who can be creative and unlock a defence with a killer ball. He's still got a bit to go as he's young but I think he's going to be a huge player for us in the future.No way would I take Holland back.
We have to win these games right? And a midfield with Carsley and Holland will do that? My hole it would. Two of the most defensively minded centre midfielders in the premiership. They actually make Neil lennon look like a dynamic creative flair player.
I'd take my chances with Ireland in there.
I really do wonder sometimes.
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Ah lads I know we're struggling at the moment but this is just being silly...
There is no way I'd have "The Invisible Man" anywhere near the Irish setup, no matter how bad we are!!!"Well I think they'll be a little disappointed with that" - Matt Holland on TV3 after 5-2 drubbing by CyprusComment
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