Stephen Kenny

[CraftyToePoke]

Barrys Belgium 0 - Morocco 2

Just saying

[mypost]

Your post reminds me of North Korea in the world cup. They scored one goal and that's all that got shown on TV at home, they didn't show the 12 goals they conceded.

Battling it out at the bottom of groups with Luxembourg, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Armenia instead of battling it out to qualify is a miserable failure. Full stop, there is no debate.

From nearly qualifying automatically for Euro 2020 to nearly coming bottom in all our groups under Kenny, that's not progress, that's the opposite! Again, there is no debate here, this is all fact.

If it was up to Kenny and his supporters, we might as well not even participate in qualification to major tournaments, we just set up the possession world cup instead and see if we can win that. Lucky Kenny and his backers aren't in charge of Saudi Arabia, Morocco or any of the countries punching above their weight in this world cup.

Well at least in North Korea, they would be happy to be at the WC and score in it. (It's not as if they can readily protest that their side isn't quite up to WC standard) We would call for the manager to be fired instead, and have done.

40 teams from Europe are not at the WC, most of them with far better players. Basically you have to have an outstanding qualifying campaign to get there, and we haven't had one in 20 years.

You list off all those teams we're battling it out with, as if none of them are allowed to win games, or even climb a table. Azerbaijan and Armenia have domestic teams getting regular group stage European football every year, Luxembourg have European Cup group stage players in their side. Ours are mostly stuck in the Championship or below, hoofing the ball 50 yards away playing to their strengths every week. Well that might be their strengths, but it's not strong enough to get to the WC, and that's not Kenny's fault.

One thing Kenny can do, is stop picking a goalkeeper who can't keep a clean sheet at any level, and concedes twice in every game he plays for us. We don't have the quality upfront or even Duffy, to score three goals all the time it happens. Even when we win he gets slaughtered, but Kenny needs as many wins as he can manage to try and help himself.

[JR89]

Barrys Belgium 0 - Morocco 2

Just saying

Shussssssh, clearly it's only ever Barry's *insert team name* when they win silly. Still take him back as part of the coaching staff and will likely be available again as the P45s are probably already written up for Martinez and Co.

[DCWA]

It’s a bit ambitious but if we are to get rid of Kenny I would like us to go for Alf Ramsey.

[CraftyToePoke]

Shussssssh, clearly it's only ever Barry's *insert team name* when they win silly.

Yeah

'' we need Anthony Barry back ''

& in the next breath

'' we need to be more like Morocco ''

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

Well at least in North Korea, they would be happy to be at the WC and score in it. (It's not as if they can readily protest that their side isn't quite up to WC standard) We would call for the manager to be fired instead, and have done.

40 teams from Europe are not at the WC, most of them with far better players. Basically you have to have an outstanding qualifying campaign to get there, and we haven't had one in 20 years.

You list off all those teams we're battling it out with, as if none of them are allowed to win games, or even climb a table. Azerbaijan and Armenia have domestic teams getting regular group stage European football every year, Luxembourg have European Cup group stage players in their side. Ours are mostly stuck in the Championship or below, hoofing the ball 50 yards away playing to their strengths every week. Well that might be their strengths, but it's not strong enough to get to the WC, and that's not Kenny's fault.

One thing Kenny can do, is stop picking a goalkeeper who can't keep a clean sheet at any level, and concedes twice in every game he plays for us. We don't have the quality upfront or even Duffy, to score three goals all the time it happens. Even when we win he gets slaughtered, but Kenny needs as many wins as he can manage to try and help himself.

Your posts are hilarious! What manager have we sacked after a world cup? No manager was sacked after a European championship even. You are not very fond of facts.

Kenny hasn't just failed to qualify, he's failed to compete in any groups. Unless you count competing with the whipping boys. You're talking down our players and talking up players Azerbaijan, Armenia and Luxembourg.

I'm sorry, I get it now. You're parodying Kenny and his supporters. It took me long enough.

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

Shussssssh, clearly it's only ever Barry's *insert team name* when they win silly. Still take him back as part of the coaching staff and will likely be available again as the P45s are probably already written up for Martinez and Co.

Well Barry improved Ireland from the mess Kenny had them in. That's undisputed at this stage. It still wasn't great though.

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

It’s a bit ambitious but if we are to get rid of Kenny I would like us to go for Alf Ramsey.

I'd take Ramsay Bolton!

[Stuttgart88]

Still?

Watch out Brazil and Belgium...

There goes Belgium

[Stuttgart88]

Yeah

'' we need Anthony Barry back ''

& in the next breath

'' we need to be more like Morocco ''

Ouch!

[mypost]

What manager have we sacked after a world cup? No manager was sacked after a European championship even. You are not very fond of facts.

I'm sorry, I get it now.

The public said Charlton should have walked after the American WC. 18 months later, they got their wish. The public called for McCarthy to be sacked after the last WC. 3 games later, they got their wish. 10 years and several coaches later, we finally got to another tournament. Were we remotely grateful? No, we wanted him fired after that as well. They only had to wait another 15 months to see him off. This happens after every single game, win lose or draw.

You tell us in every post why Kenny must go, but still haven't told me what manager in world football wants to manage Ireland in this environment.

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

Ouch!

Or "we don't have the players to compete"

Next breath

"Luxembourg and Azerbaijan have really good players".

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

The public said Charlton should have walked after the American WC. 18 months later, they got their wish. The public called for McCarthy to be sacked after the last WC. 3 games later, they got their wish. 10 years and several coaches later, we finally got to another tournament. Were we remotely grateful? No, we wanted him fired after that as well. They only had to wait another 15 months to see him off. This happens after every single game, win lose or draw.

You tell us in every post why Kenny must go, but still haven't told me what manager in world football wants to manage Ireland in this environment.

So no manager was sacked after the world cup or European championships.

I haven't had the chance to ask every manager about their interest in taking over but it's a well paid international job, we'll have no problem finding a replacement and let's be honest, it's almost impossible to do a worse job than what Kenny has done.

[SkStu]

Boomer - in the interests of arguing in good faith, who would you like to see in there? Who would you pin your flag to? Give us a name… and what would he have to do differently? In terms of team selection and on field tactics?

[CraftyToePoke]

Boomer - in the interests of arguing in good faith, who would you like to see in there? Who would you pin your flag to? Give us a name… and what would he have to do differently? In terms of team selection and on field tactics?

Agreed, in the interests of good faith in this conversation and I'd use that term very lightly around Boomers, the Mods should apply a time to this to be answered. Anyone can throw rocks and ditch hurl, let him bring something to the debate which progresses and furthers it as other have.