Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane

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  • TheOneWhoKnocks
    Banned
    • Dec 2013
    • 5244

    #1456
    The earlier the search for a new manager, the better. It's not working out. To get 1 point out of 6 against that Scottish team is beyond embarrassing. Would you trust that *redacted* with Ireland going in as 4th seeds? I wouldn't.

    Trapattoni & O'Neill were populist appointments. Ireland should go in a different direction now; they should look very carefully at what Iceland, NI & Belgium have done when they start interviewing other managers.

    Mick McCarthy wouldn't be bad either, but is he the right option or the safe option?
    Last edited by TheOneWhoKnocks; 10/07/2015, 12:39 PM.

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    • Charlie Darwin
      Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
      • Jan 2010
      • 18576

      #1457
      Calling him a muppet is completely uncalled for.

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      • Kingdom
        International Prospect
        • Sep 2004
        • 5386

        #1458
        Originally posted by jbyrne
        they should react by replacing him with no 2 on that betting list neil lennon
        Can I ask why? What has Lennon shown that suggests he is anything different to Martin O'Neill?
        If I question Liam Scales ability to play intl football, refer me to this signature & his peformance at home at lb vs Port on Nov 13 2025.
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        • jbyrne
          Seasoned Pro
          • Sep 2004
          • 3497

          #1459
          Originally posted by Kingdom
          Can I ask why? What has Lennon shown that suggests he is anything different to Martin O'Neill?
          youth and enthusiasm among other things.

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          • Bottle of Tonic
            Reserves
            • Jan 2007
            • 319

            #1460
            I'd be totally fine with him going. I'd actually like it to happen. And it pains me to say that as about 10 years ago I was as good as in love with the man.
            The dude abides....

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            • Kingdom
              International Prospect
              • Sep 2004
              • 5386

              #1461
              [QUOTE=TheOneWhoKnocks;1828172]The earlier the search for a new manager, the better. It's not working out. [QUOTE]

              I agree completely.

              Trapattoni & O'Neill were populist appointments. Ireland should go in a different direction now; they should look very carefully at what Iceland, NI & Belgium have done when they start interviewing other managers.
              Trapattoni was a superb appointment. That first campaign was exactly what we needed at the right time. Defensively solid, and unbeaten. What was then needed was to build upon that and develop. That has not happened.

              Mick McCarthy wouldn't be bad either, but is he the right option or the safe option?
              Too much baggage. I've no issue with him, but I think to go back to Mick would be a mistake. There are better options out there.

              If this does come to pass, then you'd have to imagine, Walford, Guppy and McDonagh will go too. That would leave Keane needing to introduce his own staff. That's a dodgy road to go down.

              I'll throw a name out now if we're going for former British based players. Chris Hughton.
              If I question Liam Scales ability to play intl football, refer me to this signature & his peformance at home at lb vs Port on Nov 13 2025.
              Signed
              Kingdom.

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              • back of the net
                First Team
                • Jul 2007
                • 1154

                #1462
                Originally posted by jbyrne
                youth and enthusiasm among other things.
                True

                But is Irish football at a stage where it can afford to take a chance and a relatively inexperienced manager? i think not
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                • Kingdom
                  International Prospect
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 5386

                  #1463
                  I'm surprised by you JB. If Lennon is the natural appointment, then why wouldn't Leicester be appointing him ahead of O'Neill?

                  I just do not see the clamour for Lennon, I don't "get" it.
                  If I question Liam Scales ability to play intl football, refer me to this signature & his peformance at home at lb vs Port on Nov 13 2025.
                  Signed
                  Kingdom.

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                  • jbyrne
                    Seasoned Pro
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 3497

                    #1464
                    Originally posted by Kingdom
                    I'm surprised by you JB. If Lennon is the natural appointment, then why wouldn't Leicester be appointing him ahead of O'Neill?

                    I just do not see the clamour for Lennon, I don't "get" it.
                    maybe Leicester are making a mistake appointing oneill?
                    I didn't take the betting on the Leicester job as a barometer of who our best option would be to replace oneill. our options will be limited and lennon would be a good fit out of those options. ideally id like mick back but (a) we don't deserve him after the treatment he received post 2002 wc and (b) I am not sure returning managers ever work

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                    • TheOneWhoKnocks
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 5244

                      #1465
                      I don't think either Mick or Roy were fully at fault in 2002.

                      I mean Mick could have handled it a bit better too, instead of throwing Roy under the bus and adding fuel to the fire.

                      It was just poor form from everyone. Unprofessional build up, bad man-management, Roy's ego...

                      * Look at John Delaney's carry on 13 years later and ask have things really changed that much.
                      Last edited by TheOneWhoKnocks; 10/07/2015, 12:35 PM.

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                        First Team
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1154

                        #1466
                        Roy might be too busy taking paddy power to court to take the Job...
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                        • DannyInvincible
                          Capped Player
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 11521

                          #1467
                          It'd surely be unlikely, but can we definitely assume he will leave if he takes the Leicester job and won't double-job until the end of the campaign?
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                          • jbyrne
                            Seasoned Pro
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 3497

                            #1468
                            Originally posted by DannyInvincible
                            It'd surely be unlikely, but can we definitely assume he will leave if he takes the Leicester job and won't double-job until the end of the campaign?
                            that just would not be one bit acceptable at all

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                            • back of the net
                              First Team
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 1154

                              #1469
                              Originally posted by DannyInvincible
                              It'd surely be unlikely, but can we definitely assume he will leave if he takes the Leicester job and won't double-job until the end of the campaign?


                              Hadnt thought of that - wud be worried if he did

                              But would think he will completely quit Ireland if he goes to Leicester

                              Sad to say it - but will be happy if he moves on - his tenure has been a bit of a disaster considering the wages he is getting paid
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                              • BonnieShels
                                Coach
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 12090

                                #1470
                                Originally posted by jbyrne
                                maybe Leicester are making a mistake appointing oneill?
                                I didn't take the betting on the Leicester job as a barometer of who our best option would be to replace oneill. our options will be limited and lennon would be a good fit out of those options. ideally id like mick back but (a) we don't deserve him after the treatment he received post 2002 wc and (b) I am not sure returning managers ever work
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