Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane

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  • DeLorean
    Capped Player
    • Jun 2008
    • 10894

    #706
    Would it have been as major an issue if Tardelli had left us for club management, even in advance of the first qualifier? The assistant manager role is just be glorified because it's Keane and the 'traitor' aspect is definitely going to be heightened because it's Keane! The timing wouldn't be ideal I guess but they don't really get to choose when these opportunities come along.

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    • Razors left peg
      International Prospect
      • Mar 2008
      • 6292

      #707
      Keane came on board with a view to getting himself back into contention for a manager job at some stage in the future, it just happened that he may have got a very good offer much sooner than thought. The Celtic job would be very difficult for him to turn down if offered it and I wouldnt necessarily blame him if he took it.

      Id much rather keep him in the Ireland set up but if he feels that he is just watching games without having much of an input into the team then he could be very tempted to be the boss again. Im not saying thats necessarily the case, but I think O'Neill did say last week that they tend to do their own thing and dont talk much?

      This rubbish Ive read about some people saying that he would be walking out on his country again is absolute nonsense. He is a professional and like any good professional he is ambitious. Celtic do offer a good route back into management and if he did well there other doors would open in the future.

      Im a Celtic fan and I would be happy enough to have him in charge. His management career to date has been mixed but most managers have had failures. Steve Bruce is a good example I think, he has done well at some clubs and a disaster at others but nobody wrote his career off like they have with Keane. Bruce has done very well again this season with Hull.

      All in all I would much rather he stay in the Ireland set up for at least one campaign of qualifiers, he could possibly learn a lot from O'Neill in that time and be a better manager in the future for it, but if he take a job at a club as big as Celtic then I think it would be hard to blame him.... and its definitely not a case of him deserting his country or some sh1te like that!
      Its really not that complicated!!!

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      • osarusan
        International Prospect
        • Sep 2004
        • 8079

        #708
        I wouldn't be too bothered if he does go and wouldn't see the fuss about it, but can't really imagine that Celtic would be looking for hims as manager.

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        • geysir
          Capped Player
          • Apr 2005
          • 15392

          #709
          It's not about us missing him.
          If O'Neill wanted him, it was for reasons that O'Neill valued, so now there's a gap in the plan. It's up to O'Neill to fill that gap with somebody that can really assist him.
          I'd have little doubt that Keane had good value as an assistant, even I might not value him half as much at the helm.

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          • Charlie Darwin
            Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
            • Jan 2010
            • 18576

            #710
            If Keane does go, Roddy Collins is free.

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            • geysir
              Capped Player
              • Apr 2005
              • 15392

              #711
              Originally posted by Charlie Darwin
              There's only one source for it being 700k and most seem to think it's more like 500k, possibly performance-related, but you're right that it's a ridiculous sum to be spending on an assistant manager who may now leave before he's even faced a competitive game.
              After you wrote that, I checked out a few sources for the salary, afaics most/many/at least half, of the sources go for the figure of Eur2m for the pair, 1.3m + .7m
              Bonuses were on top of that total Eur2m figure, for not failing to qualify for Eur 2016.

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              • tetsujin1979
                Coach
                • Nov 2003
                • 23730

                #712
                Originally posted by Charlie Darwin
                If Keane does go, Roddy Collins is free.
                so is Pat Dolan
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                • Charlie Darwin
                  Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 18576

                  #713
                  That would be ideal, he's already half the players' agent. Would really cut down on his phone bill.

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                  • Crosby87
                    Seasoned Pro
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 3809

                    #714
                    Kevin Kilbane could fill Roys boots on the sideline.
                    No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.

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                    • geysir
                      Capped Player
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 15392

                      #715
                      Fill his boots with what? red ants?

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                      • ArdeeBhoy
                        International Prospect
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 6237

                        #716
                        Originally posted by Charlie Darwin
                        If Keane does go, Roddy Collins is free.
                        Originally posted by tetsujin1979
                        so is Pat Dolan
                        So could Stan, so what...

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                        • paul_oshea
                          Capped Player
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 16376

                          #717
                          Keane obviously wants to go and is waiting on celtic. its very bad form and unprofessional on his part. If celtic don't go for him I'm wondering whether he should be kept on at all...don't want silly distractions coming up to major games about some.new position and Roy linked. I'm sure Martin doesn't want that either
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                          • ArdeeBhoy
                            International Prospect
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 6237

                            #718
                            Nah, keep him on. Virtually no club deserves him...

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                            • TheOneWhoKnocks
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 5244

                              #719
                              There is the possibility Roy could balance the two jobs. It's up to Martin and Roy. Celtic wouldn't have a problem with that and neither would the FAI.

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                              • Charlie Darwin
                                Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 18576

                                #720
                                I think the general consensus is that O'Neill would have a problem with that. I think he might be getting a bit sick of the circus that surrounds Keane.

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