Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane

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  • Supreme feet
    Reserves
    • Feb 2007
    • 724

    #676
    Originally posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
    At least they can constructively debate something without belittling someone. It's no more an "agenda" than the "agenda" against Long. 2 goals in his last 4 games yet all anyone - the media and fans - can talk about is the chances he misses. I didn't offend anybody as I never insulted anyone.

    And "ancient history" was a figure of speech. I didn't literally mean that you replied to an ancient post!
    If you’re going to be credible about your judgement of players, you can’t have a such a subjective, varying standard.

    If we want to be ultra-cynical, and Robbie is the show-pony, flat-track bully who over-celebrates his goals and whinges at referees, then Shane Long and Kevin Doyle are little more than blundering, huff-and-puff culchies who couldn’t hit a cow’s backside with a banjo, but get a free pass from the GAA-supporting yokels amongst our support because they run around a lot, clatter into people, and show ‘pashun’.

    However, if we want to be positive, and Doyle and Long are, indeed, the under-rated, brave, physical, selfless, hard-working strikers that every team needs, then Robbie is, in turn, the outstanding goalscorer and finisher; peerless in Irish soccer, who has scored all kinds of goals against all kinds of opposition in both competitive and non-competitive games, and deserves to be credited as such.

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    • geysir
      Capped Player
      • Apr 2005
      • 15392

      #677
      Originally posted by SwanVsDalton
      All the reports I've read and some of the quotes on Twitter appear to be resigned to Keane going.
      "Resigned" assumes regrets.
      We don't know what Roy brought to the set up. He got paid a hefty fee for a 1st deputy role, demoted to 2nd deputy role and I doubt if it will matter that much if he goes.
      Possibly he could have had a positive impact into the team and worked well with O'Neill, but we will never know. O'Neill will be left with a full complement of professional back room staff.

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      • DeLorean
        Capped Player
        • Jun 2008
        • 10894

        #678
        And who knows, maybe John Robertson might be ready to fill the 'void'? It's actually nothing personal against Keane, but I really want this to happen.

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        • Bungle
          Reserves
          • Jan 2006
          • 902

          #679
          Just out of interest, how much compo will the FAI get from Celtic if Roy gets the job? I'm guessing it's a few million.

          Personally, if it meant clearing off even a small portion of the FAI's debt and/or being able to get more youth coaches set up around the country, I'd be more than happy if he left and someone like Robertson came in.

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          • Charlie Darwin
            Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
            • Jan 2010
            • 18576

            #680
            No way it would be a few million.

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            • geysir
              Capped Player
              • Apr 2005
              • 15392

              #681
              JD is probably peddling him for peanuts to Desmond and throwing in the plane ticket for free.

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              • ArdeeBhoy
                International Prospect
                • Jun 2007
                • 6237

                #682
                Originally posted by DeLorean
                It's actually nothing personal against Keane, but I really want this to happen.
                Most Celtic fans don't...

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                • Charlie Darwin
                  Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 18576

                  #683
                  Originally posted by ArdeeBhoy
                  Most Celtic fans don't...
                  Even better!

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                  • ArdeeBhoy
                    International Prospect
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 6237

                    #684
                    Why??

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                    • Charlie Darwin
                      Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 18576

                      #685
                      A bit of entertainment is always nice.

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                      • ArdeeBhoy
                        International Prospect
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 6237

                        #686
                        Hardly entertaining unless RMK as a pundit...what happens one day when some moron offers him the full Ireland job...that won't be pleasant.
                        Would any LOI club want him near their club, bar Cork or Cobh? Long-term, I doubt it.

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                        • ArdeeBhoy
                          International Prospect
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 6237

                          #687
                          Originally posted by Stuttgart88
                          But I agree with Ardee, the glass probably is half full. I want to see evidence it's not going to fall over though, which it might.
                          Tbf, Stutts, I meant geysir's glass, not my own...which is often perpetually empty!

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                          • Charlie Darwin
                            Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 18576

                            #688
                            If any LOI could afford Keane I'm sure there'd be plenty who'd take him on. He wasn't as bad a manager as people made him out to be.

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                            • ArdeeBhoy
                              International Prospect
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 6237

                              #689
                              Hmm, Sunderland and Ipswich fans would generally disagree...

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                              • Charlie Darwin
                                Banned. Children Banned. Grandchildren Banned. 3 Months.
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 18576

                                #690
                                I could not give less of a **** about whether Sunderland and Ipswich fans agree or disagree. I'll take Niall Quinn's word for how good a job he did for them. He did a great job at Sunderland but struggled at Ipswich, it happens.

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