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  • Dodge
    Now with extra sauce!
    • Jun 2001
    • 23528

    #1

    Noe Baba

    Current captain of the Ireland u17 side and member of the u19 team too has just signed for Fulham from Castlebar Celtic apparently.

    As highly rated a player to come out of Ireland in years
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  • Crosby87
    Seasoned Pro
    • Aug 2008
    • 3809

    #2
    Any relation to Baba O'Riley?
    No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.

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    • DeLorean
      Capped Player
      • Jun 2008
      • 10894

      #3
      Originally posted by Dodge
      Current captain of the Ireland u17 side and member of the u19 team too has just signed for Fulham from Castlebar Celtic apparently.

      As highly rated a player to come out of Ireland in years
      Fulham sign Noa Baba

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      • paul_oshea
        Capped Player
        • Apr 2005
        • 16376

        #4
        His younger brother is supposed to be even better.
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        • DannyInvincible
          Capped Player
          • Sep 2006
          • 11521

          #5
          Originally posted by paul_oshea
          His younger brother is supposed to be even better.
          Yeah Baba!
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          • DeLorean
            Capped Player
            • Jun 2008
            • 10894

            #6
            Originally posted by paul_oshea
            His younger brother is supposed to be even better.
            Sure he must be a Baba?

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            • theworm2345
              Seasoned Pro
              • May 2006
              • 3786

              #7
              Its Noe Baba...I thought we already had a thread on him in which I posted some of his schoolwork as a boy saying he wants to play for Ireland, but it was just a post in another thread.
              http://foot.ie/threads/161142-Daniel...=1#post1565007
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              • Carrigaline
                Reserves
                • Jan 2008
                • 504

                #8
                Originally posted by paul_oshea
                His younger brother is supposed to be even better.
                I heard their dog has even won Crufts.

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                • Irwin3
                  Reserves
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 506

                  #9
                  Serious question on this lad's eligibility. Unless I'm missing something he was born in Cameroon to Cameroon parents (haven't heard otherwise?). Even if his parents fulfilled the naturalisation requirements and became naturalised citizens, I'm not sure how/if children can become naturalised citizens? Anyway, let's assume that his parents were naturalised and they passed this onto Noe.

                  With this in mind, I don't see how he fulfills the FIFA eligibilty statutes as they are written.
                  http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affe...tutes2012e.pdf
                  7 Acquisition of a new nationality
                  Any Player who refers to art. 5 par. 1 to assume a new nationality and who has not played international football in accordance with art. 5 par. 2 shall be
                  eligible to play for the new representative team only if he fulfi ls one of the following conditions:

                  a) He was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
                  b) His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
                  c) His grandmother or grandfather was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
                  d) He has lived continuously for at least five years after reaching the age of 18 on the territory of the relevant Association.

                  According to d) you need 5 years residence after the age of 18.

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                  • Olé Olé
                    International Prospect
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 5475

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Irwin3
                    Serious question on this lad's eligibility. Unless I'm missing something he was born in Cameroon to Cameroon parents (haven't heard otherwise?). Even if his parents fulfilled the naturalisation requirements and became naturalised citizens, I'm not sure how/if children can become naturalised citizens? Anyway, let's assume that his parents were naturalised and they passed this onto Noe.

                    With this in mind, I don't see how he fulfills the FIFA eligibilty statutes as they are written.
                    http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affe...tutes2012e.pdf
                    7 Acquisition of a new nationality
                    Any Player who refers to art. 5 par. 1 to assume a new nationality and who has not played international football in accordance with art. 5 par. 2 shall be
                    eligible to play for the new representative team only if he fulfi ls one of the following conditions:

                    a) He was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
                    b) His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
                    c) His grandmother or grandfather was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
                    d) He has lived continuously for at least five years after reaching the age of 18 on the territory of the relevant Association.

                    According to d) you need 5 years residence after the age of 18.
                    Are you sure these aren't just the prescribed rules in relation to players who are changing their international allegiance i.e. if Baba, theoretically, had played for Cameroon prior to moving to Ireland? These regulations would have been relied upon by, for instance, Shane Duffy.

                    The fact that Noe Baba satisfies relevant Irish citizenship laws would be sufficient. And, on the basis of the article above quoted from his primary school days, he has been in Ireland since he was 11, at the latest. Hence, he has been ordinarily resident here for a minimum of 5 years.
                    Last edited by Olé Olé; 15/11/2012, 6:30 PM.

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                    • WexCar
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 301

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Irwin3
                      Serious question on this lad's eligibility. Unless I'm missing something he was born in Cameroon to Cameroon parents (haven't heard otherwise?). Even if his parents fulfilled the naturalisation requirements and became naturalised citizens, I'm not sure how/if children can become naturalised citizens? Anyway, let's assume that his parents were naturalised and they passed this onto Noe.

                      With this in mind, I don't see how he fulfills the FIFA eligibilty statutes as they are written.
                      http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affe...tutes2012e.pdf
                      7 Acquisition of a new nationality
                      Any Player who refers to art. 5 par. 1 to assume a new nationality and who has not played international football in accordance with art. 5 par. 2 shall be
                      eligible to play for the new representative team only if he fulfi ls one of the following conditions:

                      a) He was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
                      b) His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
                      c) His grandmother or grandfather was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
                      d) He has lived continuously for at least five years after reaching the age of 18 on the territory of the relevant Association.

                      According to d) you need 5 years residence after the age of 18.
                      To the best of my knowledge if his parents get naturalised then he will be able to apply for naturalisation/citizenship when he reaches the age of 18 & show to have residency permission for the 365 days immediately prior to the date of application plus 1,460 days in the 8 years prior to that period.

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                      • Irwin3
                        Reserves
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 506

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Olé Olé
                        Are you sure these aren't just the prescribed rules in relation to players who are changing their international allegiance i.e. if Baba, theoretically, had played for Cameroon prior to moving to Ireland? These regulations would have been relied upon by, for instance, Shane Duffy.

                        The fact that Noe Baba satisfies relevant Irish citizenship laws would be sufficient. And, on the basis of the article above quoted from his primary school days, he has been in Ireland since he was 11, at the latest. Hence, he has been ordinarily resident here for a minimum of 5 years.

                        As far as I understand it these rules are for anyone who acquires a new nationality. As in anyone assuming a new nationality regardless if they have or have not previously played international football.

                        Shane Duffy has got nothing to do with this since he is an automatic Irish citizen since birth.
                        Last edited by Irwin3; 15/11/2012, 7:24 PM.

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                        • Irwin3
                          Reserves
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 506

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WexCar
                          To the best of my knowledge if his parents get naturalised then he will be able to apply for naturalisation/citizenship when he reaches the age of 18 & show to have residency permission for the 365 days immediately prior to the date of application plus 1,460 days in the 8 years prior to that period.
                          That's what I thought (the over 18 thing), although it says exceptions can be made.

                          Now that he's joined Fulham he won't fulfill any residency requirement going forward if he hasn't already been naturalised.

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                          • liamoo11
                            Seasoned Pro
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 3115

                            #14
                            He would not have been able to play qualifiers for the under 17s and 19s if he was not FIFA eligible. Its the reason certain lads play under 15 or 16 for us like james wallace formerly everton and then turn out to be ineligible

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                            • CraftyToePoke
                              International Prospect
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 5992

                              #15
                              Originally posted by liamoo11
                              He would not have been able to play qualifiers for the under 17s and 19s if he was not FIFA eligible. Its the reason certain lads play under 15 or 16 for us like james wallace formerly everton and then turn out to be ineligible
                              So was James Milner eligible for us or not? He did play u15 with Ireland, I think. (could be wrong, could be all in my head)

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