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Giving the Russians a weekly taste of our glorious LOI!Comment
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Nah, some people think he's too dumb to have principles
Otherwise, if James is supposed to be a likeness to his caricature, then where does that leave his detractors, if it does turn out to be that a brainless twerp like James has principles, in a situation where his detractors wouldn't have 1% of the courage it would take to stand up for that principal.
One can go around in circles, meandering about this and that, but essentially one has to appreciate that it was a principal for him and it took guts. Unless you have stood up for something, alone, against the grain, in a cesspit of opposition, then I'd suggest the opinion of the detractor is less than worthless.Comment
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It's a symbol that has been hijacked by loyalism and British nationalist institutions. Didn't know that.QUOTE]
It hasn't.
Millions of people, throughout the World, with no connection to "loyalism" and "British nationalist institutions" (whatever they are?) wear a Poppy with pride.
That's like me saying the noble National Flag of the Republic Of Ireland has been hijacked by Republican terrorists and criminal gangs, such as those who slaughtered Mr Black only a couple of weeks ago.
The Poppy is there as a symbol of Remembrance for those that choose to donate to the Poppy Appeals - nobody should be forced to wear one. Please don't attempt to besmirch those of us who choose to wear one on account of "loyalism" "hijacking" it. I am Loyal to my Queen and Nation - that does not make me an intolerant bigot.The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...Comment
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I thought and prayed yesterday for the family and friends of Channing Day, a brave young women from Comber, Co Down who was laid to rest last week having paid the ultimate sacrifice in Afghanistan, unselfishly doing a job she loved. I have nothing but the utmost respect for her. Whether I believe she should have had to serve in Afghanistan is irrelevant. I don't need to support the War, to respect and remember those that give their lives through service in my Nation's Armed Forces.
I also respect your right to think differently.
I do believe that your fanciful notion that Citizens of the United Kingdom will ever forget the sacrifices of our Fallen is mere wishful thinking. They will never be forgotten. Not ever.The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...Comment
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It is your absolute right to consider Poppies "pointless".
However, I can assure you that millions of people throughout the World do not consider them pointless. Poignant possibly, but far from piontless.
All the "Brit Bashing" in the world will not stop millions wearing their Poppy in proud and solemn remembrance of The Fallen.The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...Comment
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The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...Comment
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I suspected that was what you meant, but I thought I'd stir the pot anyway.
Are you happy with the future Queen Consort as well?Comment
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Except it has been. See Solitude's post as a very small example. And the far right in Britain enthusiastically embrace Remembrance Day and associated symbols annually....
eg. http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/a...rs-of-disgrace
Ok, so there are some in Canada, but be amazed if it runs to 'millions' more...Millions of people, throughout the World, with no connection to "loyalism" and "British nationalist institutions" (whatever they are?) wear a Poppy with pride.
A curious association to make.That's like me saying the noble National Flag of the Republic Of Ireland has been hijacked by Republican terrorists and criminal gangs, such as those who slaughtered Mr Black only a couple of weeks ago.
Sad that people are dying, but there's limited point in such pride when the whole conflict is so pointless.
My sympathy though is far more with the people who've been invaded.
Except that plenty of British people of my acquaintance (and not), beyond the suffering both inflicted or received, don't care for their armed forces at all. And would have no great appreciation of 'our fallen' since 1945, which sounds antiquated at best.I do believe that your fanciful notion that Citizens of the United Kingdom will ever forget the sacrifices of our Fallen is mere wishful thinking. They will never be forgotten. Not ever.
And I can assure many British people will no longer buy poppies as they don't want to be associated with illegal wars or the far-right, as per above...
Guessing this figure too, would also run into 'millions'...Comment
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How many prayers have you said for the countless women and children who have been caught up and killed in the fighting in the country the armed forces that you and she supported are occupying? People who were already desperately impoverished and vulnerable before they got caught up in yet another war, the third such major conflict Afghanistan has been involved in in the last 30 years. Did you have a remembrance day for them?
Its people like you and your ridiculous patriotic nonsense that allow these politicians to send these young, misguided individuals to these countries on the pretext of protecting their nation from some unseen, unquantifiable danger. The call of people to arms for many centuries. As Herman Goering said in Nuremberg "Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
What job did she love? Invading third world countries under a false pretext? Propping up corrupt puppet regimes? Stealing those countries natural resources where available?
If these misguided souls weren't willing to go to these countries in the first place there would be no such invasions. In the many wars that Britain have been involved in over the last 150 years, totaling up all the people their armed forces have killed, how many were in reality a threat to the average British person's way of life? The Nazis are the only ones I can think of in all that time. The Falklands could possibly also be justified as a measured defence against a foreign aggressor to British territory but these are the exceptions to the rule in the two dozen or so wars fought by the British in that time.
As mentioned earlier they deserve neither my respect nor remembrance. If you go to prop up corrupt regimes in other people's countries whilst also working to expand your own countries national interests then you are by all means choosing to put yourself in the line of fire. I'll reserve my respect and remembrance for the civilians caught in the crossfire and the red cross workers trying to help the most vulnerable people in such scenarios. Not the instruments of war and oppression.
Regarding your last point, you my friend existing in that bubble of reality called Northern Ireland are a dinosaur of a bygone age. The average English person where I live in the South East who's considerably less than pensionable age has no great vested interest in remembrance day or the current plight of their armed forces. They have similar opinions to me on the matter than you which will come as no great surprise to anyone who's lived over here.Last edited by youngirish; 12/11/2012, 11:50 PM.Comment
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Well said YI. War is normally a pointless diversion from other more serious domestic issues.
At no time since 1945 have Britain or the US been under direct threat within their own domestic territory in any conflict.Comment
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