Eligibility Rules, Okay

[ColourfulPeanut]

Jonjo Shelvey would have been worth a squad place at times.

He'd walk into our team. For all his weaknesses, his range of passing is phenomenal. Keeping Jeff Hendrick out of the Newcastle team consistently

[liamoo11]

He'd walk into our team. For all his weaknesses, his range of passing is phenomenal. Keeping Jeff Hendrick out of the Newcastle team consistently

Remember we offered him the chance to come on board for the euros in 2012 to no avail.

[samhaydenjr]

Ryan Bertrand? Aaron Lennon?

[backstothewall]

The UTV are showing a documentary about the whole thing now, so expect a load of fuss over this in the next few days.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Mentioned it in the World Cup thread, but have been interested to follow along the case of Ecuador's Byron Castillo over the last few days. Chile claimed he was actually born in Colombia, so not eligible to represent Ecuador, Ecuador, up as far as their courts, disagreed: https://www.newyorker.com/sports/spo...soccer-in-2022

FIFA rejected Chile's claim today, but it got me wondering: has their ever been a case where FIFA ruled on the citizenship status of a player in opposition to a court of law from the country concerned?

[geysir]

Mentioned it in the World Cup thread, but have been interested to follow along the case of Ecuador's Byron Castillo over the last few days. Chile claimed he was actually born in Colombia, so not eligible to represent Ecuador, Ecuador, up as far as their courts, disagreed: https://www.newyorker.com/sports/spo...soccer-in-2022

FIFA rejected Chile's claim today, but it got me wondering: has their ever been a case where FIFA ruled on the citizenship status of a player in opposition to a court of law from the country concerned?

I didn't read in the article where the courts in Ecuador made a decision on the citizen status of Castillo, did I miss it?

[NeverFeltBetter]

Sorry, I got that from some Spanish language news sites, here's one example: https://www.google.com/amp/s/247news...850.html%3famp

[geysir]

From reading the New Yorker article, basically Chile's case was that Castillo had faked his birth cert in order to be eligible to play for Ecuador and Chile's evidence for this had already been discredited. Deep echoes of desperate IFA shenanigans in that one . FIFA don't rule on citizenship, they rule on eligibility to play, citizenship papers are just a part of that.
There were various player nationality disputes in Africa around the the time of intl qualifiers some years ago when chief suspect Cape Verde were flying high (discussed in this thread) which might fit that scenario. At least one team were punished with a 3 nil defeat. But I'd say the FIFA rulings were more about eligibility factors rather than contradicting a State's judgement on citizenship status.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Mentioned it in the World Cup thread, but have been interested to follow along the case of Ecuador's Byron Castillo over the last few days. Chile claimed he was actually born in Colombia, so not eligible to represent Ecuador, Ecuador, up as far as their courts, disagreed: https://www.newyorker.com/sports/spo...soccer-in-2022

FIFA rejected Chile's claim today, but it got me wondering: has their ever been a case where FIFA ruled on the citizenship status of a player in opposition to a court of law from the country concerned?

This is a story that isn't going away just yet, with Chile appealing on the grounds of a 2018 audio interview, conducted by the Ecuadorian football association, where the player in question appears to admit that his passport is fraudulant: https://www.football365.com/news/ecu...ke-id-cover-up

Ruling due on Thursday. At this stage Chile might not even benefit: there would be an argument that Peru, knocked out in the Intercontinentals by Australia, should be allowed the place instead, as they would have qualified automatically if results where Castillo played were turned into 3-0 walkovers.

[osarusan]

has their ever been a case where FIFA ruled on the citizenship status of a player in opposition to a court of law from the country concerned?

FIFA don't reall rule on citizenship, more on elgibility (which is stricter than citizenship - you can be a citizen but still not be eligible), but you'd have to imagine that they'd not go against a court that had said X was not even a citizen of that country.

[NeverFeltBetter]

FIFA upholds the original decision: https://www.fifa.com/legal/media-rel...er-byron-david

...the player was to be considered as holding permanent Ecuadorian nationality in accordance with art. 5 par. 1 of the FIFA Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes.

I'm assuming they meant Article 15, part one of which reads:

Any person holding the nationality of a country is eligible to play forthe representative teams of the Association of his country. TheExecutive Committee shall decide on the conditions of eligibilityfor any Player who assumes a new nationality and for whom par. 3of this article does not apply, or for any Player who would, in principle, be eligible to play for the teams of more than one Associationdue to his nationality

I suppose the point here is that Castillo is, by Ecuadorian law, considered to have been an Ecuadorian citizen since birth, regardless of what has been said in any recording.

Chile are now going to CAS. Ecuador is due to open the World Cup in 65 days.

[tetsujin1979]

There's been a change in the eligibility rules for British clubs signing foreign players, outlined on the42 here

https://www.the42.ie/ireland-brexit-football-6093594-Jun2023/

[Olé Olé]

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/spo...585952490.html

Michael O'Neill speaks publicly about Ronan Hale switching his allegiance from Ireland to NI.

[elatedscum]

Call him up, John O’Shea…

[tetsujin1979]

Off topic posts deleted.
The long-held policy of the forum is to refer to the national side as Ireland, unless clarification is needed, in which case "Republic of Ireland" is used.