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  • DannyInvincible
    Capped Player
    • Sep 2006
    • 11521

    #1651
    Bloody hell, Angloma still playing international football at the ripe old age of 45? Interesting you should mention Guadeloupe, by the way, and a bit of a coincidence, as, just last night, I was reading about Pascal Chimbonda playing for them three times in 2003 in what appeared to me to be an official competition - qualifiers for the CONCACAF Gold Cup - before then going on to win a cap for France. He even made the French 2006 World Cup squad, although he didn't make an appearance for them. His Wikipedia article was very straightforward and matter-of-fact about this peculiar aspect of his international career, as if there was nothing unusual about what appeared to me to be a bit of an anomaly, or certainly something in need of some further explanation, but it makes more sense to me now that you say FIFA don't actually recognise Gaudeloupe. Presumably, the CONCACAF Gold Cup isn't recognised by FIFA as official competition either then?
    My blog.
    FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

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    • sean r
      Youth Team
      • Jun 2003
      • 133

      #1652
      guadalope martinique st maartin are all members of concacaf but not fifa they are allowed to play in regional cups only. so any player from france who have connections to those 3 countries can play for them and france. they are all part of france and all all french citizens. the same for aruba and curasao in the carribean there for thierry henry can play for guadaloupe and france at the same time.

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      • irishfan86
        Seasoned Pro
        • Sep 2004
        • 2680

        #1653
        The Gold Cup is a sort of weird tournament, because every now and again you'll get a weird team invited, like Brazil U-21 or something. Ireland for Gold Cup glory? Haha...
        Eirebhoy's "We Love You" Chant. RIP:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7UfSbASyrQ

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        • DannyInvincible
          Capped Player
          • Sep 2006
          • 11521

          #1654
          Thought this bit from the CONCACAF Gold Cup's Wikipedia page was interesting:

          When the Gold Cup does not fall the same year as an edition of the FIFA Confederations Cup, the winner, or highest place team that is a member of both CONCACAF and FIFA, qualifies for the next staging of that tournament.
          So, if Guadeloupe were to win the Gold Cup, they wouldn't be put forward to the FIFA tournament.
          My blog.
          FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

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          • sean r
            Youth Team
            • Jun 2003
            • 133

            #1655
            i dont think they will be allowed to play in the confederations cup as they are not a "country" guadaloupe are part of france. and i can recall one time that south korea played in the copa america i dont know how they did. so ireland can be invited to play in the copa america or should we try the african cup of nations??

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            • DannyInvincible
              Capped Player
              • Sep 2006
              • 11521

              #1656
              The Copa America organisers (CONMEBOL) usually invite two "outsiders" for each competition to make up the numbers. Usually, they invite CONCACAF sides, Mexico and the USA, or even Costa Rica, as they're geographically-close/culturally-similar, but I don't think there's anything to stop them inviting a European or Asian team, for example.

              I think you must be thinking of Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Am%C3%A9rica#Invitees

              Since 1993, two teams from other confederations, usually from CONCACAF whose members are geographically and culturally close, are also invited. Nations receiving invitations are Costa Rica (1997, 2001, 2004), Honduras (2001), Japan (1999), Mexico (1993, 1995, 1997, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007), and the United States (1993, 1995, 2007). The United States had been invited every time from 1997 to 2007 but frequently turned down the invitation due to scheduling conflicts with Major League Soccer. However, on October 30, 2006, the US Soccer Federation accepted the invitation for participation in the 2007 tournament, ending a 12 year absence. At 2001 Copa América, Canada was an invitee, but on July 6, 2001 withdrew because of security concerns.
              My blog.
              FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

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              • The Fly
                Seasoned Pro
                • Sep 2008
                • 2500

                #1657
                We're taking the p*ss now lads!.............


                Last edited by The Fly; 02/09/2010, 9:53 PM.

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                • boovidge
                  First Team
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 1253

                  #1658
                  appropriate stadium name too!

                  Does anyone actually have a recent squad pic for us? cant find one on the net
                  Last edited by boovidge; 02/09/2010, 10:03 PM.

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                  • irishfan86
                    Seasoned Pro
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 2680

                    #1659
                    Originally posted by boovidge
                    appropriate stadium name too!

                    Does anyone actually have a recent squad pic for us? cant find one on the net
                    This is on the FAI site, sorry it's not bigger:

                    Eirebhoy's "We Love You" Chant. RIP:

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7UfSbASyrQ

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                    • DannyInvincible
                      Capped Player
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 11521

                      #1660
                      Gather round; did the IFA ever get back to your e-mail?

                      It's been nearly three weeks since CAS disappointingly responded to my e-mail with the following:
                      "The reasoned award will be notified to the parties in the coming weeks. Until such time, the CAS is unable to comment any further on the matter."

                      And that was over two weeks after they'd initially promised to publish the grounds for the decision within a few days of the decision being made. I wonder will they ever publish the full grounds...
                      My blog.
                      FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

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                      • geysir
                        Capped Player
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 15392

                        #1661
                        I suspect the IFA (in a rare moment of enlightenment) have put in a request for confidentiality and the CAS findings will not be made public.

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                        • DannyInvincible
                          Capped Player
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 11521

                          #1662
                          "Gorman happy with Northern choice": http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0904/gormanj.html

                          This guy's still only a 17-year-old school-boy, so I wonder will he feature again for a while now that he's tied for good. Or maybe he genuinely is a wonder-kid and is fully deserving of a regular place in the senior team.
                          My blog.
                          FIFA Player Eligibility in the Context of Ireland: The Actual Rules, the Real Facts and Dispelling the Prevailing Myths.

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                          • ArdeeBhoy
                            International Prospect
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 6237

                            #1663
                            Well even some of their own fans are now calling for every youth player to be capped in competitive games which is an interesting proposition. And doubtless would p*ss-off some of their more established squad.

                            The whole thing smacks of Desperation.

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                            • Not Brazil
                              First Team
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 2414

                              #1664
                              Originally posted by ArdeeBhoy
                              Well even some of their own fans are now calling for every youth player to be capped in competitive games which is an interesting proposition.
                              Those fans are irrational.

                              Fast tracking young prospects, to protect our future interests, should not compromise our aims and objectives in trying to win competitive football matches.
                              The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
                              But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
                              Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
                              And this is what we sang...

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                              • The Fly
                                Seasoned Pro
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 2500

                                #1665
                                Originally posted by The Fly
                                We're taking the p*ss now lads!.............



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