Player eligibility row

[ArdeeBhoy]

Obviously you didn't read the phrase, 'warts and all'. One thing you'll always outdo us on, is Paranoia!

And don't wish especially to refute your view, but just in case it's not understood, should you have the time and inclination you can explain to OWB directly your exact logic and reasoning. Though I fear it may be a thankless task.
If you read their posts, like the 'illustrious' EG, the 'b' word and worse is scattered about, though to be fair, not by yourself.

[Not Brazil]

And don't wish especially to refute your view, but just in case it's not understood, should you have the time and inclination you can explain to OWB directly your exact logic and reasoning. Though I fear it may be a thankless task.

I have expressed my views on the (numerous) eligibility threads on OWC at length, explaining both my logic and reasoning.

Are you now accepting of the fact that the majority of posters on OWC do not dispute that Duffy is eligible for the Republic Of Ireland?

[ArdeeBhoy]

Yeah, you have! Which are mainly fine. And would accept a minority of the North's fans accept Duffy's eligibility. So what?

[dantheman]

The issue is clearly not whether Duffy is eligible or not, its a case of HOW he is eligible. The majority of the OWC fans seem to think its because of his Donegal parent, which is of course true.
But the reality is that he is eligible due to being born in NI. Just like David Healy, Ian Paisley, George Seawright and Ealing Green (in order of increasing bigotry...) Once the OWC fans take the red pill instead of the blue pill (and not the red, whit & blue pill), they can approach the FAI directly to attempt to negotiate with the honest & trustworthy John Delaney to see how any remaining minor issues can be resolved.

On another note, here is a proposed map of a few FAI training camps that could be set up in the North, once this nasty CAS business is sorted out.




The proposed locations are:

Derry
Omagh
Enniskillen
Armagh
Newcastle/Downpatrick
Cookstown/Magherafelt
Ballycastle
West Belfast

This would allow a solid network of poachers to kidnap children, in a sectarian manner of course.

I edging towards Downpatrick over Newcastle as there is a maternity hospital there so we can start poaching from birth.
No point waiting until primary school if Nigel's about, he'll have them playing in the U21's by that stage!

[ArdeeBhoy]

But wouldn't they then refer to us as travellers, gypsies or even the 'k' word, if we went round setting up training encampments everywhere??

[dantheman]

But wouldn't they then refer to us as travellers, gypsies or even the 'k' word, if we went round setting up training encampments everywhere??

Oul Nige will be capping Catholic sperm next!

[Not Brazil]

And would accept a minority of the North's fans accept Duffy's eligibility. So what?

So, you maintain that a majority of Northern Ireland fans think that Duffy is not eligible to play for the Republic Of Ireland, under current Statutes?

Is this based on fact, or a trait of paranoia on your part?

I have spoken with many, many Northern Ireland fans on the issue of eligibility - I have yet to meet one who doesn't accept that Duffy is eligible, as Statutes stand, to represent the Republic Of Ireland.

That is not to confuse the diappointment/anger of many that he switched - but that's a different discussion.

[co. down green]

The issue is clearly not whether Duffy is eligible or not, its a case of HOW he is eligible. The majority of the OWC fans seem to think its because of his Donegal parent, which is of course true.
But the reality is that he is eligible due to being born in NI. Just like David Healy, Ian Paisley, George Seawright and Ealing Green (in order of increasing bigotry...) Once the OWC fans take the red pill instead of the blue pill (and not the red, whit & blue pill), they can approach the FAI directly to attempt to negotiate with the honest & trustworthy John Delaney to see how any remaining minor issues can be resolved.

On another note, here is a proposed map of a few FAI training camps that could be set up in the North, once this nasty CAS business is sorted out.




The proposed locations are:

Derry
Omagh
Enniskillen
Armagh
Newcastle/Downpatrick
Cookstown/Magherafelt
Ballycastle
West Belfast

This would allow a solid network of poachers to kidnap children, in a sectarian manner of course.

I edging towards Downpatrick over Newcastle as there is a maternity hospital there so we can start poaching from birth.
No point waiting until primary school if Nigel's about, he'll have them playing in the U21's by that stage!

lol

[seanfhear]

If either or both teams had qualified for the world cup do you think this topic would be so busy at this time. I blame somebody ! ! !

[Sullivinho]

But the reality is that he is eligible due to being born in NI.

Crux of the matter right there.

The entitlement that exists for people born in 'Northern Ireland' to Irish citizenship and players born there to represent Ireland is a validation of the fact that despite being born within the confines of a British border and living within British occupied territory, these people have every right to dispute and reject those impositions. In the case of football players, neglecting to play for the representative team of the territory is one, very visible way that rejection is manifested. A team so rich in British trappings, even the customary nod to her majesty's welfare is included before a ball is kicked. Fortunately, there exists another team on the island that further validates their position. One which in theory, could feature one representative from every region of the island in a 32 man squad. This team would obviously be the first choice of an Irish citizen, be they players or supporters. All of which leads to a perceived imbalance and great angst for the IFA and their supporters. But it isn't the FAI who are the architects of their ire, rather the means that exist to alleviate and/or accomodate a historical injustice that continues to intrude upon the identities of a large group of people. Challenging those means is disingenuous at best.

Every time I see the title of this thread, I'm reminded how much of a misnomer it is. It may as well be titled 'Should we stop recruiting Irish players'.

[Charlie Darwin]

I still think it's odd that Duffy's registration is being held up by this case. I know it's a moot point since he got injured, but I don't really get why since there was never any question over his entitlement to switch his registration. Perhaps the FAI/Duffy just left it too late to initiate the switch?

[geysir]

Anyone who trusts Bl*tter, FIFA or the other dubious characters involved are more naive than a class of infants if they reckon that's an end to it.

Who said anything about trusting Blatter, I am merely quoting the man and what he said is supported by FIFA actions on the issue.
If you can find one dubious eligibility case after 2004 to support your views, then please present it.
Otherwise - wise up.

[Gather round]

But the reality is that he is eligible due to being born in NI. Just like David Healy, Ian Paisley, George Seawright and Ealing Green

Wasn't George a Glaswegian? He certainly sounded like one.

living within British occupied territory...A team so rich in British trappings...there exists another team on the island that further validates their position. One which in theory, could feature one representative from every region of the island in a 32 man squad...It may as well be titled 'Should we stop recruiting Irish players'

Where did you get all that from, the Ladybird book of cartoon Provo cliches? If Trap named a 32 man squad there'd probably be players from Scotland, Wales, NI, England and maybe even Germany in it.

[Sullivinho]

Where did you get all that from, the Ladybird book of cartoon Provo cliches?

If Trap named a 32 man squad there'd probably be players from Scotland, Wales, NI, England and maybe even Germany in it.

One which in theory, could feature one representative from every region of the island in a 32 man squad.

'In theory, Lady Gaga could walk on the moon'
'In theory, OJ was innocent.'
'In theory, Norn Iron could qualify for another World Cup'.

etc.

Possibility never submitting to likelihood of course

[EalingGreen]

Agree the banner is a joke btw

Haven't got time to post much at present*, but I thought I'd take a moment to congratulate you on getting at least one thing right - the banner was most definitely a joke. Which is why so many people thought it funny. And speaking of "funny", I'll just share this little gem which someone brought to my attention earlier today:

"11 - The Republic of Ireland were penalised more often for handball than any other team in the European WorldCup qualifiers"

http://twitter.com/optajoe

* - But like Arnie: "I'll Be Back"