North Tipp & District League 2008/09

[Big Ears]

to be fair lads wouldnt it be better if all the north teams went into a shield with sides from clare and kerry and the desmond league,a proper shot at winning a provincial title? i know nenagh every odd couple of years had a result against saints or clonmel town but most finals in recent years have been all tipp south affairs with saints playing town,i am however hugely in favour of an all tipp cup,cant understand why it hasnt happened

I've no problems with whatever the 34 other sides(if you're including B teams) in North Tipperary do but there isn't a chance in hell we'd ever want to be part of that.

We reached the semi-final of that competition last year losing to the winners 2-1 in a game I feel we really should of won if we played to our capabilities so to entertain the thought of going into a smaller competition is ludicrous to me.

It is an aim of the club this year to try and win the Munster or FAI junior Cup. Okay it's also the aim of plenty of teams from Limerick and some sides from Waterford and Cork aswell but why would we want to be part of a Mickey Mouse competition ?


The Munster Junior Cup is the second most prestigious Junior competition in the country, winning it is a great honour.

Winning some Munster Junior B title fought out between the weaker Leagues would mean **** all. Where's the honour in that ?

[bawn79]

I've no problems with whatever the 34 other sides(if you're including B teams) in North Tipperary do but there isn't a chance in hell we'd ever want to be part of that.

We reached the semi-final of that competition last year losing to the winners 2-1 in a game I feel we really should of won if we played to our capabilities so to entertain the thought of going into a smaller competition is ludicrous to me.

It is an aim of the club this year to try and win the Munster or FAI junior Cup. Okay it's also the aim of plenty of teams from Limerick and some sides from Waterford and Cork aswell but why would we want to be part of a Mickey Mouse competition ?


The Munster Junior Cup is the second most prestigious Junior competition in the country, winning it is a great honour.

Winning some Munster Junior B title fought out between the weaker Leagues would mean **** all. Where's the honour in that ?

Got to agree with you there. However I dont like the county regionalisation bit. Doesnt do anything for teams to have to play all the same teams each year. Would be better to go to other areas and at least be shamed into doing something into there facilities by seeing what other clubs have.

I do think there should be a secondary competition ran as well though. For teams of either 1st Divison standard and below (depending on how the league is rated, so maybe 1st Divison for North Tipp and 2nd Division for others).

[Benjy Riordan]

I agree with Big Ears sentiments. To be fair, North Tipp teams have done fairly well in recent years in the open draw section of Munster. Besides Nenagh AFC who reached the semi's last season, Nenagh Celtic have done well in the open stages in the last few seasons also, while going back a few more seasons, both Clodiagh and Blackcastle have got through at least two of the open draw rounds.

So on that basis, the results don't really support the idea that North Tipp clubs should only aspire to a "Munster B" standard at junior level.

As regards an All TIpp cup/league - It certainly deserves consideration - both the South Tipp and the North Tipp leagues are like the SPL in recent years (only 2 clubs in contention to win each year it seems) and perhaps an all Tipp Premier league of say the top 5 teams in both Leagues would make for a more interesting and competitive league.

[bawn79]

I agree with Big Ears sentiments. To be fair, North Tipp teams have done fairly well in recent years in the open draw section of Munster. Besides Nenagh AFC who reached the semi's last season, Nenagh Celtic have done well in the open stages in the last few seasons also, while going back a few more seasons, both Clodiagh and Blackcastle have got through at least two of the open draw rounds.

So on that basis, the results don't really support the idea that North Tipp clubs should only aspire to a "Munster B" standard at junior level.

As regards an All TIpp cup/league - It certainly deserves consideration - both the South Tipp and the North Tipp leagues are like the SPL in recent years (only 2 clubs in contention to win each year it seems) and perhaps an all Tipp Premier league of say the top 5 teams in both Leagues would make for a more interesting and competitive league.


I think it would be a great idea, ive no doubt Nenagh and Templemore would do very well in this league. Probably Rearcross as well. Not really sure who the other two teams would be. The rest are much of muchness - depending on hurlers a bit too much.
Would there be a guarenteed number of places - as in 5 from North and South or would you think it would be better to have a playoff for promotion to the league from the separate 1st Divisions?
Personally Id say give a few years of guarenteed then begin with playoffs so it would truely be the best in the two areas.

[hooper74]

thats a fair point in terms of nenagh and aspiring to challenge provincially,do you think their cause would be helped if they played in south tipp in terms of competition league wise? well as much as it pains me to say it peake villa have won a league title more recently than saint michaels however clonmel have dominated last 5 years,in terms of the fai saints have lost recent finals,clonmel have lost consecutive quater finals and peake villa have lost a number of quarter finals and semi finals,there is an argument south tipp is strongest league in the country with the aul,i think the all tipperary cup would be an excellent competition and something new

[Benjy Riordan]

Hooper, In terms of competitiveness, I think that certainly the two Nenagh teams, Blackcastle, Rearcross and possibly Cloughjordan would be competitive in the South Tipp prem league this season. There have been a few one sided games in this (TSDL) league this year and I'm sure the addition of the better NTDL teams would improve the overall strength in depth of the league.

As regards to the TSDL being one of the strongest leagues in the country, well that depends on the criteria used, certainly the big three clubs would be competitive in any junior (or even senior) league in the country, but outside of these, its hard to make a case for any of the rest. So I would say that the strength in depth is lacking in the TSDL as a whole for it to be considered the "strongest league" in the contry when compared to say the Limerick league or the AUL.

[bawn79]

Hooper, In terms of competitiveness, I think that certainly the two Nenagh teams, Blackcastle, Rearcross and possibly Cloughjordan would be competitive in the South Tipp prem league this season. There have been a few one sided games in this (TSDL) league this year and I'm sure the addition of the better NTDL teams would improve the overall strength in depth of the league.

As regards to the TSDL being one of the strongest leagues in the country, well that depends on the criteria used, certainly the big three clubs would be competitive in any junior (or even senior) league in the country, but outside of these, its hard to make a case for any of the rest. So I would say that the strength in depth is lacking in the TSDL as a whole for it to be considered the "strongest league" in the contry when compared to say the Limerick league or the AUL.


Starting off with an interdivisional (North & South) cup competition would be the way to go to get these started and see how feasible it is.

[hooper74]

benji i take your point but i do think the likes of cahir,clonmel celtic and oldbridge would beat most of those teams you mentioned,both celtic and bridge reached latter stages of fai in recent seasons,to be fair though the prove will be in the fai ties coming up between north and south teams,also the standard of pitches is miles apart?

[bawn79]

benji i take your point but i do think the likes of cahir,clonmel celtic and oldbridge would beat most of those teams you mentioned,both celtic and bridge reached latter stages of fai in recent seasons,to be fair though the prove will be in the fai ties coming up between north and south teams,also the standard of pitches is miles apart?

In terms of pitches it could be a good time to introduce minimum standards for facilities, either that you have them or have contrete plans to build them to be in the new combined division. It would be similar to what they introduced in Mayo.
That would include Nenagh, Blackcastle and Rearcross all have good facilities.

Although you mention the FAI cup ties, I dont think the results really reflect the relative strengths. A lot of our teams dont take them too serious as they dont think they will get too far, for instance my club Ballymackey entered this year in the hope of an away tie that would be a good team building session.
So I think you would see the standard catch up with South Tipp a lot quicker if the above teams were playing against consistently good opposition.
For instance if Nenagh Town were the only team in Nenagh playing in a combined division then they would attract all the best players in Nenagh.
Similarly the other North Tipp teams would attract players to play in a combined division therefore strengthening the North Tipp sides.
As it is many of the smaller clubs in the North Tipp Premier Division have a few good players that are content to play for their local club and still be in the top division. However if suddenly they were in a lower division they may move to a bigger team.

[Benjy Riordan]

benji i take your point but i do think the likes of cahir,clonmel celtic and oldbridge would beat most of those teams you mentioned,both celtic and bridge reached latter stages of fai in recent seasons,to be fair though the prove will be in the fai ties coming up between north and south teams,also the standard of pitches is miles apart?

I don't fully agree with your first assertion, I think that the gap between these teams in the TSDL and those in NTDL is not that wide. Indeed in the FAI in recent years, Peake Villa have been beaten by Nenagh Celtic, Clonmel Celtic overturned in Clonmel by Cloughjordan, while if I'm not mistaken Clonmel Town needed penalties to see off Nenagh Town in the FAI last seanson (Big Ears can correct me on this). However as regards any NTDL team beating either Clonmel Town or the Saints, well although a few teams have gone close in recent years, no one has quite managed it yet.


As regards pitches, I would agree with you, although clubs like Nenagh Town, Rearcross, Thurles Town (Greyhound Stadium) and Clodiagh have decent enough playing surfaces at the moment. Most of the rest are either farmers fields or are very bobbly due to lack of proper care.

[hooper74]

to be fair lads i can see what your saying in relation to certain points but to say any club does not take the fai seriously is totally foreign to me,saints,clonmel and villa will all feel they can win it this season,to be looking for team bonding away trips is understandable and thats why i say the leagues are miles apart,and of course the results between north and south in the upcoming ties will tell u the exact difference,the rivalry will be there for all to see regardless of tournaments

[bawn79]

to be fair lads i can see what your saying in relation to certain points but to say any club does not take the fai seriously is totally foreign to me,saints,clonmel and villa will all feel they can win it this season,to be looking for team bonding away trips is understandable and thats why i say the leagues are miles apart,and of course the results between north and south in the upcoming ties will tell u the exact difference,the rivalry will be there for all to see regardless of tournaments

Ya but ye are one of the top three clubs in South Tipp, the top three in North Tipp take it serious also.
My club just got promoted from the 2nd Division to the 1st Divison (below the Premier) so that is why Im calling it a team bonding trip.
Like do Galbally Rvrs enter the FAI Junior Cup thinking they are going to win it?

[hooper74]

thats a valid point about galbally but i honestly feel none of the north tipp sides will be in the last 32 of the cup come february and i would expect minimum of 2 south teams and def one to be in the quarters or semis

[Benjy Riordan]

thats a valid point about galbally but i honestly feel none of the north tipp sides will be in the last 32 of the cup come february and i would expect minimum of 2 south teams and def one to be in the quarters or semis

I don't think that too many of them are expecting to reach the last 32 either. To be fair though, reaching the open draw also depends a lot on the luck of the draw and if a half decent club can avoid the big guns and/or get home draws then they are always in with a chance of making it out.

If you look at the MJC draw in the TSDL, if I am correct, at least one from the Saints and Clonmel Town won't make it to the open draw stages this season and neither of these teams could be classified as a bad side.

[bawn79]

FAI Junior Cup (1st. round)
Birdhill 7 Clonmore 2
Ballyneale 1 Clodiagh Rangers 1 (1-2 pens).
Bansha Celtic 4 Arra Rovers 1.
St. Kierans 5 Borrisokane 0
Borroway Rovers 3 Borrisoleigh 2

One good result so far is the Clodiagh Rangers win, we played them earlier on this season and although we lost 3-0 didnt find them to be unbeatable.

[hooper74]

bad start for north sides,surprised bansha won so easily,are arra not premier? st kierans are div 4 in tipp south,what are borrisokane? will clodiagh give peake villa a game?

[bawn79]

bad start for north sides,surprised bansha won so easily,are arra not premier? st kierans are div 4 in tipp south,what are borrisokane? will clodiagh give peake villa a game?


Arra are a team of hurlers, so it all depends on what team turns up on the day. They normally do enough each year to stay in the Premier.
Borrisokane got promoted from the 2nd Division last year to the 1st Division. Really nothing special, an average team.
If Clodiagh are playing Peake Villa, PK will beat them easily.

[daz22]

am Arra are poor at the moment,missing alot of players,think their problem with players who came in from outside the parish and local ladz dont want to play with them.???clodaigh would not get an awful beating from peake cos they r an average first division side at best,although in yester years were not bad.to be honest after the Nenagh teams, only blackcastle and cloughjordan are of any quality,the rest are quiet poor!!

[bawn79]

am Arra are poor at the moment,missing alot of players,think their problem with players who came in from outside the parish and local ladz dont want to play with them.???clodaigh would not get an awful beating from peake cos they r an average first division side at best,although in yester years were not bad.to be honest after the Nenagh teams, only blackcastle and cloughjordan are of any quality,the rest are quiet poor!!

For the last 20 years Arra have been complaining about "outside players", when they can field 15 lads that wont go playing hurling at a drop of a hat before soccer then they can complain about "outside players".

Id add Rearcross as being a good side to the four you mentioned. At least they try to play football the right way even if maybe they dont have the players.

[bishbash]

For the last 20 years Arra have been complaining about "outside players", when they can field 15 lads that wont go playing hurling at a drop of a hat before soccer then they can complain about "outside players".

Id add Rearcross as being a good side to the four you mentioned. At least they try to play football the right way even if maybe they dont have the players.

i'm from clonmel and to be honest even that attitude of not wanting outside plyers would be very alien to most if not all of the premier teams in the tsdl i know at our club we would takeanyone who would make a difference to our side regardless of where they came from.

[bawn79]

i'm from clonmel and to be honest even that attitude of not wanting outside plyers would be very alien to most if not all of the premier teams in the tsdl i know at our club we would takeanyone who would make a difference to our side regardless of where they came from.

Yip I totally agree with you, comes from the very strong hurling club mentality in the area, One parish, one village, one team.
Like in hurling Nenagh only has one team. I presume Clonmel probably has a few?

[Benjy Riordan]

For the last 20 years Arra have been complaining about "outside players", when they can field 15 lads that wont go playing hurling at a drop of a hat before soccer then they can complain about "outside players".

Id add Rearcross as being a good side to the four you mentioned. At least they try to play football the right way even if maybe they dont have the players.

From my observations of the NTDL, the problem with teams like Arra and others is that for many of the players, soccer is only a means of keeping fit for other codes. A lot of the players who fall into this category have no committment to the club, and wouldn't be available at the weekends if there was something else on. Under these circumstances, its difficult for rural clubs to remain competitive. Arra are bottom of the premier division at the moment, but I 'd say that if all the players who had signed for them were available for all their games to date, they would most likely have some points on the board. If I'm not mistaken, they started badly last season too and as soon as all their players were available, they picked up the points necessary to avoid the drop. Wouldn't bet against the same thing happening this season !

[bishbash]

Yip I totally agree with you, comes from the very strong hurling club mentality in the area, One parish, one village, one team.
Like in hurling Nenagh only has one team. I presume Clonmel probably has a few?

yeah there would be a few different gaa clubs all with rivalry but that is always a gaa mentality being with the one club from a child to retirement. in sayin that though its different when it comes to soccer and we have players from the likes of moyle rovers ,commercials, clonmel og and ardfinnan and its a totally different mentality all the players come together and as i said before we would take any player from anywhere as long as they added to the side

[daz22]

dont get me wrong arra just like every other club have diehards too and put in alot of effort.plus if arra had all the players available they would easily come 3rd or 4th in the league.Rearcross can be sticky but as you say dont have the players.Blackcastle are a mystery,they have great under age teams but players dont seem to appear for the junior side,probably for numerous reasons.Hurling is an excuse that clubs use alot in north tipp,it folded Newtown??yes or No?Look at the Nenagh teams who field 4 junior sides every weekend and they dont use hurling as an excuse

[mr. man]

Look people have to realise that it depends on the town / Village on how good you are.. I mean the size of nenagh and the pick of players they have compared to villages is not even worth talking bout and the same can be said for clonmel / tipp town..
I hear there is a piece in the guardian on how much better south tipp soccer ( slagging north tipp ) have not read it yet.. but will comment on it when i do..

[daz22]

i read that but if you took clonmel twn and d saints from the league.there is not much else to be honest.apart from peakevilla who put a decent side together once in a while.have to admit that leaving out the top teams, in both leagues,Sth tipp teams are alot stronger than the rest in Nth tipp.was at Nenagh T v Nenagh Celtic today and a young looking celtic side should have won the game.

[bawn79]

dont get me wrong arra just like every other club have diehards too and put in alot of effort.plus if arra had all the players available they would easily come 3rd or 4th in the league.Rearcross can be sticky but as you say dont have the players.Blackcastle are a mystery,they have great under age teams but players dont seem to appear for the junior side,probably for numerous reasons.Hurling is an excuse that clubs use alot in north tipp,it folded Newtown??yes or No?Look at the Nenagh teams who field 4 junior sides every weekend and they dont use hurling as an excuse

Yip it folded Newtown alright, we just didnt have the numbers in the area outside of using hurlers. I played soccer only for Newtown since I was 12 so I was pretty gutted and just got sick of the lack of interest in the team. I must have played 15 years for them. Although I dont like GAA I actually hope that hurling breaks a few more clubs and there is an amalgamation of the remaining clubs.
Clubs waiting for hurlers to come is pretty much pointless.
In fairness though there needs to be some rules brought in to help bring this about.
If you cant field 11 players in a game you should be deducted points. Dont field a team for a game. automatic relegation. Plans for proper facilities need to be drawn up to get rid of 11 hurlers who buy a set of jerseys from being allowed enter the league.
One of the strangest set-ups ive seen is Sallypark and Latteragh.
Sallypark are an average club, they have a ladies team and two junior teams. Im not sure if they have any underage but there seems to be a good numbers. However it is literally in the middle of nowhere between Nenagh and Borrisoleigh. Somehow a separate club called Latteragh decided to set up practically across the road from Sallypark. Why did they set-up with nothing but a field when there already was a reasonable club in the area?

No doubt South Tipp has more strength in depth in terms of clubs but I think with some effort with the rules we could strengthen things up by reducing the amount of clubs. I do think the league has gone about this in a round about way by increasing the size of the 2nd Division. Id say a lot of the more "amateur" clubs wont be able to sustain the interest in the increased number of games and so should hopefully fold.

[daz22]

am i think latteragh was set up because there was a fall out between some players,think thats what happened!!??on the matter of the second division it is way to big and i know clubs have being asking for it to be split after a number of games,similar to the Scottish league?i think you are being unfair to the teams who have hurlers because without these players our league would be poorer.what do you think of the standard of refereeing?dont know if said this already but i think their is 15 former newtown players playing with other clubs?

[bawn79]

am i think latteragh was set up because there was a fall out between some players,think thats what happened!!??on the matter of the second division it is way to big and i know clubs have being asking for it to be split after a number of games,similar to the Scottish league?i think you are being unfair to the teams who have hurlers because without these players our league would be poorer.what do you think of the standard of refereeing?dont know if said this already but i think their is 15 former newtown players playing with other clubs?

How would it be poorer without hurlers? The guys that will turn up when it suits them. Last year with Ballymackey we didnt have any hurlers, just average committed guys and we got promoted from the second division. Its more important to be consistent over a season than having a flash in the pan guy come back from hurling when he feels like it to upset the team spirit and then go off again. Its the hurler mentality is what is in fact making our league poor.
I dont know about Newtown players, if there are 15 then they werent at the meeting to save the club. 5 turned up for that.
Referring is average, there isnt a lot they can do really. Very few new referees coming through. If you have fewer clubs, fewer games, there would be more referees of a better standard to go around.

[bawn79]

By the way Daz22,

What would you think of these ideas?

If you cant field 11 players in a game you should be deducted points. Dont field a team for a game. automatic relegation. Plans for proper facilities need to be drawn up to get rid of 11 hurlers who buy a set of jerseys from being allowed enter the league.
Should be minimum standards set for entry to the Premier division in terms of facilties.

[daz22]

am automatic relegration maybe a bit harsh, i know borrisoleigh were told over the last 2 seasons that if they missed one more game in a certain period of time they would be thrown out completly.sometimes clubs may not be able for other reasons such as exams, holidays,weddings,funerals but i do see your point about hurlers.There already is standards in place but they are not being adhered to.i know ballymackey are trying with new facilities but the debt they are putting themselves in is crazy especially when they might fold in next 5,6 years.

also a few hurlers do turn up every game no matter if hurling same day,these people are in a minority i know.

also my view on a different matter,on the youths league, it is only the nenagh teams plus blackcastle who have youths every year, its a farce,teams dont field every week,excuses for calling games off.
"Same clubs" got a chance this year to pool resourses and join together for a youths team but nobody did,why?

On the matter of not fielding 11 players that is not a rule that the league can envoke because under FIFA rules teams can play once they have 7 players as you may know.

i note your point about teams entering their should be a committment given that they have to pay for enter to the league for 3,5 years,to act as a bond so that it may deter these type of teams you are on about,what you think??

[bawn79]

am automatic relegration maybe a bit harsh, i know borrisoleigh were told over the last 2 seasons that if they missed one more game in a certain period of time they would be thrown out completly.sometimes clubs may not be able for other reasons such as exams, holidays,weddings,funerals but i do see your point about hurlers.There already is standards in place but they are not being adhered to.i know ballymackey are trying with new facilities but the debt they are putting themselves in is crazy especially when they might fold in next 5,6 years.

also a few hurlers do turn up every game no matter if hurling same day,these people are in a minority i know.

also my view on a different matter,on the youths league, it is only the nenagh teams plus blackcastle who have youths every year, its a farce,teams dont field every week,excuses for calling games off.
"Same clubs" got a chance this year to pool resourses and join together for a youths team but nobody did,why?

On the matter of not fielding 11 players that is not a rule that the league can envoke because under FIFA rules teams can play once they have 7 players as you may know.

i note your point about teams entering their should be a committment given that they have to pay for enter to the league for 3,5 years,to act as a bond so that it may deter these type of teams you are on about,what you think??

I dont think Ballymackey will fold, although i do think we will have to take things a little slower. On the other hand we are in a fairly good position at the moment. I would see the whole thing being a 10 - 20 year plan in paying it off. But you know someone has to take the first step.
It will be a ballymackey fc company that will be formed to run the development, so even if ballymackey football club "fold" then the company will still be responsible for building a facility for the area.
Ballymackeys underage set-up is pretty good, seemingly with had 100 young lads/girls playing one saturday which is a lot of sets of parents.
What im saying above about there being too many clubs makes these developments harder, coz there are less people running each club, which makes it much harder to take a risk.

I agree that some weeks its unavoidable not being able to field a team, however in this situation it should be well know in advance. Im talking about when no one is notified then it is automatic relegation.
We tried to have a youths team this year, organised an evening for lads to go training for it but the promised numbers never turned up.

Im sure a fine could be put in place for teams not fielding 11 players.

Bond idea isnt bad, Id personally prefer some concrete plans on developing facilities. Could be in conjunction another club, for instance Im sure Ballymackey would welcome input from other teams in Toomevara and the surrounding areas.

[Flexible]

Hi,

Speaking from the team that Ballymackey beat last Sunday ( thanks for your hospitality by the way,lads ) we were having the same conversation regarding hurlers on the way home. We are by no means a team of hurlers as we have two teams and a schoolboy structure but on Sunday last because of a hurling match we had six first choice players missing. The argument was whether we could do without them or not and the answer was obviously not. Normally they would be finished now and beacuse Waterford progressed in the all-ireland we are suffering. Our league ( The WWEC ) have a rule that if you fail to fulfil two fixtures in a season you are gone and only can come back the following season by paying a bond of 200 Euro.

[Benjy Riordan]

Some interesting results this weekend. Lisselton winning in Nenagh in the MSC and Blackcastle United beating Nenagh Celtic in the premier division and wins also for Birdhill and Clough it looks at this stage that the premier league could be very interesting this year.

[bawn79]

Some interesting results this weekend. Lisselton winning in Nenagh in the MSC and Blackcastle United beating Nenagh Celtic in the premier division and wins also for Birdhill and Clough it looks at this stage that the premier league could be very interesting this year.


Ya some surprising results alright, dont know much about Lisselton, I believe they are from Kerry?
Hopefully it will be a more tightly run affair this year, no harm in having competition.
We got a lucky win against Borrisoleigh, they still are a very strong team and Id say they will be there or there abouts come the end of the season.

I believe we are getting a fine for not having a rope around the pitch. Never heard of this before, I wonder how many teams in North Tipp comply with this?

[Benjy Riordan]

Fining a club for not having a rope around the pitch would be OK if the rule was enforced on all clubs - which I don't believe it is. I also think the league would initially be far better off enforcing standards in relation to playing gear, i.e. fining clubs for not having matching togs and socks - in this day and age, there's no excuse for a club not being able to put out a team in matching kit.

[bawn79]

I was reading about the Munster Senior Cup, would it be possible for a team from Tipperary to join the Munster Senior League, what are the criteria etc?
How come none of the South Tipp sides are in it?
What are the differences between Junior, Intermediate and Senior? Ive always presumed that Senior football in Ireland was the Premier and 1st Divisions of the League of Ireland.

[Benjy Riordan]

I was reading about the Munster Senior Cup, would it be possible for a team from Tipperary to join the Munster Senior League, what are the criteria etc?
How come none of the South Tipp sides are in it?
What are the differences between Junior, Intermediate and Senior? Ive always presumed that Senior football in Ireland was the Premier and 1st Divisions of the League of Ireland.

As far as I know Clonmel Town used to play in the MSL as did the now defunct St. Ailbes from Thurles in the mid 80's. Apart from meeting minimum criteira as regards club facilities, I don't think there is anything preventing a NTDL club from applying to join the MSL.
Why aren't there any TSDL or NTDL clubs in it ?
Well I guess part of the answer to that lies in the fact that the majority of Clubs in the league are from Cork, so there would be quite a lot of travelling involved.

[bawn79]

Bump!

[mr. man]

Saturday October 11th
FAI Junior Cup

Cappoquin v Templetuohy 7pm.
Blackwater v Ballingarry 3pm

Sunday Oct. 12th
FAI Junior Cup 2nd. Round
(Extra Time and Penalties)

Moneygall v Nenagh AFC 2pm.
Sallypark v Thurles Town 2pm
Nenagh Celtic v St. Nicholas 3pm.
Toomevara v Cashel Town 3pm.
Birdhill v Wilderness Rovers 3pm.
Clonmel Town v Cloughjordan 3pm.
St. Michaels v Blackcastle United 3pm.
Peake Villa v Clodiagh Rangers 3pm
Cahir Park v Borroway Rovers 3pm.
Rosegreen Rangers v Ballymackey 3pm

Any Predictios lads ??? How will the north tipp teams get on against non north tipp teams ??

[Benjy Riordan]

Saturday October 11th
FAI Junior Cup

Cappoquin v Templetuohy 7pm.
Blackwater v Ballingarry 3pm

Sunday Oct. 12th
FAI Junior Cup 2nd. Round
(Extra Time and Penalties)

Moneygall v Nenagh AFC 2pm.
Sallypark v Thurles Town 2pm
Nenagh Celtic v St. Nicholas 3pm.
Toomevara v Cashel Town 3pm.
Birdhill v Wilderness Rovers 3pm.
Clonmel Town v Cloughjordan 3pm.
St. Michaels v Blackcastle United 3pm.
Peake Villa v Clodiagh Rangers 3pm
Cahir Park v Borroway Rovers 3pm.
Rosegreen Rangers v Ballymackey 3pm

Any Predictios lads ??? How will the north tipp teams get on against non north tipp teams ??

Predictions in Bold !

[mr. man]

Saturday October 11th
FAI Junior Cup

Cappoquin v Templetuohy 7pm. 2 . 0
Blackwater v Ballingarry 3pm 3 . 1

Sunday Oct. 12th
FAI Junior Cup 2nd. Round
(Extra Time and Penalties)

Moneygall v Nenagh AFC 2pm. 0 . 3
Sallypark v Thurles Town 2pm 2 . 1
Nenagh Celtic v St. Nicholas 3pm. 4 . 1
Toomevara v Cashel Town 3pm. 1. 3
Birdhill v Wilderness Rovers 3pm. 1 . 0
Clonmel Town v Cloughjordan 3pm. :confused:
St. Michaels v Blackcastle United 3pm. 3 . 2
Peake Villa v Clodiagh Rangers 3pm 5 . 0
Cahir Park v Borroway Rovers 3pm. 4 . 0
Rosegreen Rangers v Ballymackey 3pm 3 . 1

Any Predictios lads ??? How will the north tipp teams get on against non north tipp teams ??

My predicitions !!!

[hooper74]

any feedback from any of the north tipp teams in relation to the clashes with south tipp sides?

[daz22]

Nenagh Celtic had an easy victory ova st.nicholas, Nenagh afc easily beat moneygall, birdhill hammered the wilderness rovers,Toomevara were deservedly beaten by div 1 side cashel town, cloughjordan were unlucky against a depleted clonmel twn and heard michaels beat blackcastle.o ya and as expected clodaigh got a beating from peakevilla, sallypark beat thurles on penos.

[bawn79]

Nenagh Celtic had an easy victory ova st.nicholas, Nenagh afc easily beat moneygall, birdhill hammered the wilderness rovers,Toomevara were deservedly beaten by div 1 side cashel town, cloughjordan were unlucky against a depleted clonmel twn and heard michaels beat blackcastle.o ya and as expected clodaigh got a beating from peakevilla, sallypark beat thurles on penos.

Ballymackey lost 5-0 to Rosegreen, we havent been going well lately. Lost 4-1 the previous week to a much worse team in Templetouhy.
Rosegreen were handy, 6-7 very good players. Could see they were short in a few positions but you could see they knew what they were at trying to move our defence all over the place. We were left chasing shadows for a lot of the game.

[mr. man]

Clonmel Town 1 Cloughjordan 1 (AET ) clough lose 12. 11 on pens..

We play well and it is such a hard way to lose the game on penos..
Clonmel were awarded a pen half way through the first half which they converted.
we levelled it with around with around 15 mins to go.
Have to say that there was some really strange offside decisions made against us when we were clearly onside.. Ref was blowing his whistle every time the town players roared at him..
We had a chance to win it in extra time but the keeper made a good save..
Overall twas an even enough game... Best of luck to town in the next rounds , but i dont think they will go that far imo...

[daz22]

clonmel twn were missing quite a few players plus are never in top form at this time of year.their aim is to be in all competition at xmas and then they push on hard,usually hitting good form.Look away draws you are always going to get that with referees so no point even giving out,it the norm,unfair but true,u have to agree.

[bawn79]

Just did a search for North Tipp Soccer and this thread comes up as No. 3 in the search results, pretty happy with that. Where are the rest of the North Tipp-ites I wonder?

[celticlads]

Any truth in d rumour dat town only had 7 training last week.

[hooper74]

the outcome of the north v south clashes has to disappoint north league fans.....it really does,personally i ended up at the villa clodagh game and it was a total mismatch as was the saints v blackcastle which would be te game i would normally have been at,do north tipp have oscar traynor team?