Clash of colours at Richmond Park

[Jerry The Saint]

Sleeves clashing are a problem in the event of a handball in a crowded penalty area or something like that.

In case anyone is wondering, the navy Pats jerseys eventually worn by Rovers do indeed have white sleeves. They also kept their white shorts to match those worn by Pats:confused: Maxi has a word for this...

[Student Mullet]

Could Pat's not have worn their away kit?

[DmanDmythDledge]

Could Pat's not have worn their away kit?
Yeah, that's what should have happened...

[srfc1928]

:rolleyes:Sure Sligo are never wrong about anything. Leave them alone its not their fault!
Thanks for sticking up for us finlay,
i thought you finn harps didnt care about us, :D

[Buile Shuibhne]

I was under the impression that the FAI approved each clubs' various strips in advance of the season.

If not, it would make sense to do so, anticipating and avoiding any potential clashes.


Why is it left up to the referee at the last minute to rule on this when there's very little time or scope left to make changes?

Once the fixture list is out - could the FAI not agree with clubs, which strip they should wear in advance of each match?

[DmanDmythDledge]

I was under the impression that the FAI approved each clubs' various strips in advance of the season.

If not, it would make sense to do so, anticipating and avoiding any potential clashes.
They did (allegedly). Apparantly they had two full time staff looking after it. Makes you wonder...

[srfc1928]

They did (allegedly). Apparantly they had two full time staff looking after it. Makes you wonder...
Who are the two full time staff looking after this ..... Trinny & Susanna:D
were all arguing about the colour of sleves like bloody women.
Fair play to St. pats they won the game fair and square.:ball:

[feo123]

BTW the kits did clash. Our home kit has been the same for ****ing ever. Red body, white sleeves and white shorts. Scandalous that Sligo can have an awy kit so close to their home kit

Sligo ended up wearing our wawy kit of two years ago (with the pp logo on it). We wore it once in ore season

get your facts right before you post s**t.
or are you colour-blind?

[feo123]

and i dont know, was it just me or did the kit we eventually got have white sleeves on them aswell!!!!! and they let us wear our white shorts and socks anyway! its nothing but a muppet of a referee who caused a scene yet again

[pineapple stu]

Posted this elsewhere, but may as well keep it together -

Also, when will clubs learn how to design jerseys? Showing the league up as amateurs again. It's ridiculous.

Hint from the way we work things - don't colour your sleeves differently. It's asking for trouble. One colour, and retain an old away jersey as a third choice kit. Duh-simple.

[pete]

This happening too often to be left up to the clubs. The FAI need to tell clubs which jersey to wear.

Apparently Sligo gave in & wore the away Pats jersey. I suppose first fine to Pats as we were told last year that it is the home that must change.

:confused:

[The Lilywhites]

its nothing but a muppet of a referee who caused a scene yet again

Seems to be. Interesting that he has been the referee every? time this has happened.

[oldyouth]

Lads, if you have a Pink kit like us, you're never going to clash with the opposition:D:(:p

[Dodge]

Hint from the way we work things - don't colour your sleeves differently. It's asking for trouble. One colour, and retain an old away jersey as a third choice kit. Duh-simple.

We've had the same kit for 30+ years? Would arsenal get rid of white sleeves? Should Rovers get rid of the hoops? Should Barcelona get rid of stripes? Get real ffs

[Kingdom]

Seems ridiculous for this type of thing to happen on the first day of the season.
Its common for clubs who have striped or hooped jerseys to have one of the two home colours as the away jersey. How hard can it be to have an emergency 3rd kit ready in anticipation at the start of the season.
also as Dodge pointed out Pats have had the same strip forever, they were the home team (why should they be worrying about an away kit?), I can't see anyone but Sligo to blame here.

[forza rovers]

rovers kit is all white they dont have there home one yet as its being relesed later in the week

[Dodge]

rovers kit is all white they dont have there home one yet as its being relesed on monday

You started the season without a home kit? :rolleyes:

[forza rovers]

You started the season without a home kit? :rolleyes: it got delyed by the supplier

[Topman]

Even at Kennedy Cup Level (u13s) you are given plenty of notice as to the colour of all kits worn by the 30 odd leagues who take part in it every June!! Time to get organised so not to clash!!!!

St Pats....Home team, same kit design for years, why should they have to change.

Sligo Rovers....Away team, get your house in order, sack your kit man, you knew what St Pats were gonna wear (unless you dont know the difference between Dublin teams colours)...you were wrong

Dont blame the Ref.....blame Sligo Rovers....Poor Preperation for the 1st game of the season.

[Finlay Harp]

Sligo have a red and white home kit and a white away kit. Thats sensible! Surely an all black or navy away kit would stop any conflict.

[Sean South]

Pats jersey is registered as ALL RED with the FAI doesn't matter what it looked like the past 15 or what ever years. If it was registered as red and white their would be no problem

[finnpark]

Points deduction surely for both clubs. If the FAI don't deduct points from these clubs for doing this it will happen again!

[Hitman]

Hate to say I told you so:
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=847445&postcount=5

[finnpark]

The clubs aren't to blame and fining them would be unfair. It was that tool Buttimer at fault. It's hardly a coincidence that the same thing happened twice last yaer when he was the ref - should be suspended from premier league games

Typical, blame the ref. 9 point reduction for both clubs seems fair, especially Sligo.

[Sam_Heggy]

Typical, blame the ref. 9 point reduction for both clubs seems fair, especially Sligo.


No bias shown :p

Looks very bad on the league, Buttimer is a fussy prat but maybe he's just following instructions? Either way, a bit stupid of Sligo tbh, their home jersey is red and white so their away jersey is made White :confused: Makes sense eh?

[exiled_gufc_fan]

The clubs aren't to blame and fining them would be unfair. It was that tool Buttimer at fault. It's hardly a coincidence that the same thing happened twice last yaer when he was the ref - should be suspended from premier league games

Maybe the next clubs that are playing with him should insist that his jersey clashes with, i dunno, the colour of the grass or the ballboys tops, and insist that he changes before they start.

:rolleyes:

[Dodge]

Pats jersey is registered as ALL RED with the FAI doesn't matter what it looked like the past 15 or what ever years. If it was registered as red and white their would be no problem

Are you for real?

[passerrby]

sligo travelling to a match with only one strip all white to a club who wear red and white ,perfect planning and pats refusing to change should lead to a fine. both clubs have behaved stupidly and deserve what they get . now the league office are suppose to look at kit matchups before match day so what the **** were the doing well done mr gavin take a bow. mr buttimer looks like you called it right

[micls]

Similar to what happened with us and Bray last night. I blame the same people I did then, the FAI, they have to sanction the kits, they should have let Sligo know they'd need a third kit for the Pats game or not sanctioned their away jersey.

We got fined a grand for this last year as the home team.

[Scram]

dont worry pats will get there way because there from dublin:p

Serious paranoia.

Amazing the amount of people from outside Dublin who actually believe this tripe. Especially unbeleivable in the GAA where no Dublin referee would referee a Dublin game, and more likely than not favour the non-Dublin side. And the notion that GAA headquarters are pro-Dubs is laughable.

But don't let that stop any of you with an inferiority complex. Was the referee from Dublin?

[Titan]

Why are people shocked by this? Kit suppliers in this country are a joke and some kitmen are even bigger jokes. If the kit suppliers used their smarts theyed make sure that each of their teams had an emergency jersey (and dont give me jip about costs. 1 set of jerseys badged and numbered etc approximate cost to supplier €200 max). I did this with Bohs last year They had 4 different kits. So what happened in Waterford I hear you scream? Ask Colly the Bohs kitman:D

What happens in other leagues is this:

Before the start of the season all clubs submit a CAD (drawing) of the kits they intend to use. at the referees pre season meeting they spend an our or two comparing kits and come up with a consensus. ie if Pats play Sligo at home Sligo need a third choice cos their home and away both clash (Or all the other refs go 'Oh for christ sake Anthony give it a rest') After this meeting a circular is sent to each club telling them which kit they will wear in which game. If for whatever reason a club wants to wear a different kit (i.e. a new away kit at home to show the fans) then permission must be sought.

Of course we cant do that in this country for the following reasons:

1: The kit suppliers NEVER deliver on time
2: The people who choose kits for their team i.e. Committees,Commercial managers etc are like a crowd of aul ones and take an age to make a very simple decision (Hence in a lot of cases the late deliveries).
3: It just makes too much sense

End Rant

[pete]

Ultimately this is Sligo problem but according to the rule Pats would be fined.

There is a simple solution to this - Away colours must not have the same colours as home jersey. If you have a 2 colour home jersey then you need a 3rd colour for the away jersey. If your away jersey would clash with your own home jersey then it will also clash with others.

Clashes seem most likely with 2 colour jerseys but most teams don't have a problem.

[KildareFan]

Was this a problem when the teams met in previous years? What was done then?

I seem to remember Keely having a go at the same referee in his column last year for making Shels change their 'keeper's jersey against Dundalk

[passerrby]

I seem to remember Keely having a go at the same referee in his column last year for making Shels change their 'keeper's jersey against Dundalk

tawt calling a **** a **** ..if you know what i mean

[Dodge]

I thought they changed the rule alast year after Cork complained?

[micls]

I thought they changed the rule alast year after Cork complained?

I didn't hear about that. They fined us anyway

I don't think the rule needs to be changed, its a last resort rule, it just shouldnt ever come to it if the FAI did their job properly.

[forza rovers]

if we wore our black and yellow kit it would have clashed with the ref

[micls]

if we wore our black and yellow kit it would have clashed with the ref

Refs are supposed to have more than one kit in case of this

[Dodge]

if we wore our black and yellow kit it would have clashed with the ref

So you had a black and yellow kit?

[feo123]

Sligo have a red and white home kit and a white away kit. Thats sensible! Surely an all black or navy away kit would stop any conflict.

we have an ALL RED home kit, for about the 90th time

[deecay]

Rovers were humiliated last night wearing another teams jerseys,I assume Rovers will be taking this further

[Dodge]

I assume Rovers will be taking this further
You going to sue the ref or something?

[forza rovers]

So you had a black and yellow kit?ya but not with us

[Dodge]

Case closed then methinks

[forza rovers]

ya but not with usas we gave most of it away at the end of the season

[sligoman]

I suppose first fine to PatsTheir fans also threw 3 bottles on to the pitch, 2 of which the ref was informed about(not sure about the 3rd) so hopefully a few fines on the way.
You started the season without a home kit? :rolleyes:We were given an away fixture first so no big deal if the home kit isn't ready. It will be ready by the time of our first home game so what's the problem?

[micls]

We were given an away fixture first so no big deal if the home kit isn't ready. It will be ready by the time of our first home game so what's the problem?

You have to have both kits at ALL games. Not just home ones....thems the rules

[deecay]

You going to sue the ref or something?
Jako are taking this furthur

[John83]

Lads, if you have a Pink kit like us, you're never going to clash with the opposition
And you'll look totally fabulous.


Why are people shocked by this? Kit suppliers in this country are a joke and some kitmen are even bigger jokes. If the kit suppliers used their smarts theyed make sure that each of their teams had an emergency jersey (and dont give me jip about costs. 1 set of jerseys badged and numbered etc approximate cost to supplier €200 max). I did this with Bohs last year They had 4 different kits. So what happened in Waterford I hear you scream? Ask Colly the Bohs kitman:D

What happens in other leagues is this:

Before the start of the season all clubs submit a CAD (drawing) of the kits they intend to use. at the referees pre season meeting they spend an our or two comparing kits and come up with a consensus. ie if Pats play Sligo at home Sligo need a third choice cos their home and away both clash (Or all the other refs go 'Oh for christ sake Anthony give it a rest') After this meeting a circular is sent to each club telling them which kit they will wear in which game. If for whatever reason a club wants to wear a different kit (i.e. a new away kit at home to show the fans) then permission must be sought.

Of course we cant do that in this country for the following reasons:

1: The kit suppliers NEVER deliver on time
2: The people who choose kits for their team i.e. Committees,Commercial managers etc are like a crowd of aul ones and take an age to make a very simple decision (Hence in a lot of cases the late deliveries).
3: It just makes too much sense

End Rant
This.

[pineapple stu]

We were given an away fixture first so no big deal if the home kit isn't ready. It will be ready by the time of our first home game so what's the problem?
That's nonsense. An away jersey isn't for away games; it's for when there's a clash of colours. To not have a home jersey yet is ridiculous.

Are your sponsors the same as last year? Could you not have used last year's home jersey? Our third choice jersey is an old away jersey. Makes things very easy.