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chuckie
23/02/2008, 12:02 PM
Just after tuning into sky sports and they were treating Eduardo for what looked like a broken leg, I missed the incident but the commentators said the images were so horrific that they would not be showing a replay.Just wondering if anyone saw what happened
eirebhoy
23/02/2008, 12:06 PM
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1811652
ifk101
23/02/2008, 12:12 PM
Looks like he took Eduardo's ankle off.
Poor divil - hope he makes a speedy recovery.
Kingdom
23/02/2008, 12:25 PM
As perverse as it might sound, you don't see the actual injury but the reactions of the players and the angle Taylor dived in at doesn't make it look good.
ifk101
23/02/2008, 12:34 PM
I think the players reaction and the length of time it took to take him off the pitch suggests that his ankle is well-broken and I'd say bone was sticking out somewhere down there. It also looks like Eduardo fainted when he looked down at his ankle.
osarusan
23/02/2008, 12:35 PM
I turned over too late to see the tackle, but the Sky commentators said it didn't look like a malicious tackle, and they felt Taylor was a little unlucky to be red-carded.
Photo here
http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1203772672438_618.jpg
NeilMcD
23/02/2008, 1:09 PM
Terrible injury it seems and that photo is hard to look at. However I think it was a harsh decision to send him off. This is confirmed to in the fact that Taylor was not looking at the players ankle, an unfortunate injury from a clumsy tackle
chuckie
23/02/2008, 1:16 PM
IT looks like a red from this angle
http://www.4thegame.com/gallery/?page=0&gallery=195
The injury looks terrible
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2579/1963628uj6.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/empics/20080223/13/2686518136-soccer-barclays-premier-league-birmingham-city-v-arsenal-st-andrews.jpg
NeilMcD
23/02/2008, 1:20 PM
Yeah that photo looks pretty bad for Taylor alright.
Its a definite red, but he just got done by Eduardo's quick feet. Not like he set out to hurt him or anything
chuckie
23/02/2008, 1:28 PM
im not sayin he was, but he had to go off for that
NeilMcD
23/02/2008, 1:36 PM
Its a definite red, but he just got done by Eduardo's quick feet. Not like he set out to hurt him or anything
How is it a defnite red if he did not set out to hurt him and is done by quick feet and it is not a goal scoring chance and it is not a violent tackle etc. I would have thought a yellow card was the punishment for a late tackle.
eirebhoy
23/02/2008, 1:36 PM
http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/empics/20080223/13/2686518136-soccer-barclays-premier-league-birmingham-city-v-arsenal-st-andrews.jpg
Ahh. :eek:
How is it a defnite red if he did not set out to hurt him and is done by quick feet and it is not a goal scoring chance and it is not a violent tackle etc. I would have thought a yellow card was the punishment for a late tackle.
It as late and it was high.
Whether him meant it or not is irrelevant, it was dangerous and he could have, and did, cause serious injury.
It was a reckless challenge thought without intent and deserved the red imo
NeilMcD
23/02/2008, 1:41 PM
It as late and it was high.
Whether him meant it or not is irrelevant, it was dangerous and he could have, and did, cause serious injury.
It was a reckless challenge thought without intent and deserved the red imo
It was not high as it caught his ankle that is what did the damage.
chuckie
23/02/2008, 1:43 PM
It was not high as it caught his ankle that is what did the damage.
http://www.4thegame.com/gallery/?page=0&gallery=195
looks pretty high to me.
NeilMcD
23/02/2008, 1:46 PM
Still photos are misleading esp as they are 2D. As you can see in the other pictures he catches him on the ankle, whereas in that pic it looks like he is going to catch him much higher. Therefore that picture has to be misleading, thats why I said that pic looks pretty bad for Taylor however he did not catch Eduardo on the knee or the higher party of shin.
MickNolan
23/02/2008, 1:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIWz2RqevsU prepair your self
NeilMcD
23/02/2008, 1:53 PM
Get in there Mc Fadden, Clichy you muppet.
osarusan
23/02/2008, 1:55 PM
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It was a reckless challenge thought without intent and deserved the red imo
This is the point. It was late, forceful, with studs showing. It made full contact with the opponent. That should be a red card.
The fact that the opponent broke his leg shouldn't really be relevant in terms of what card, if any, should be given, as players can have legs broken through perfectly fair tackles. It certainly doesn't help the offender's case though.
osarusan
23/02/2008, 1:57 PM
Get in there Mc Fadden, Clichy you muppet.
Terrible defending, he got the ball though.
Gallas is the real muppet. One of the biggest whingers I've ever seen. He has a point this time, but still no need for it.
Kingdom
23/02/2008, 2:00 PM
comparing it to other similar injuries (Busst, Nilis) its hard to see him recovering from that.
Terrible defending, he got the ball though.
Gallas is the real muppet. One of the biggest whingers I've ever seen. He has a point this time, but still no need for it.
Id be furious if one of our players did that. As the commentators said imagine if the keeper had saved it.....Gallas' actions hardly filled the keeper with confidence
NeilMcD
23/02/2008, 2:05 PM
Yeah Gallas is the guy that they should be really having a go at. Anybody can make a mistake and Terrible defending by Clichy but Gallas is meant to be the captain.
It was not high as it caught his ankle that is what did the damage.
It was over the ball, therefore high
Look NeilMcd mate can you not see from the seaquence of photos above that it was high late to eduardos shin before resulting in the broken ankle. Straight red no question or doubt about it!!
osarusan
23/02/2008, 2:57 PM
Wenger says Taylor should never play football again.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7260564.stm
"The tackle was horrendous and this guy should never play football again," Wenger told BBC Sport.
Wenger says Taylor should never play football again.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7260564.stm
Arsene saw it :eek::rolleyes:
3 game ban max
jesus that's bad as Juninho's when he was at Atletico
shanman2
23/02/2008, 3:16 PM
How the hell can Wenger say that Taylor doesn't deserve to play football again???? Sure it was a bad tackle. But I seem recall some of his players jumping into challenges last week at Old Trafford anything could have happened.
I honestly believe that when you play sport these things can happen... He miss timed a challenge and poor Eduardo came off the worst.
At least Eduardo will be get A1 treatment and will hopefully play again.... Not like the run of the mill pro in league 2 who will walk around with a limp for the rest of his life. Not to mention losing his livelyhood....
My point being that when you play the game things like this can happen. I also feel sorry for Taylor he didn't carry on like Neil Ruddock the time he broke Andy Coles legs anyway....
To Taylor's credit, he did look shocked, and accepted his punishment quietly
noddy102
23/02/2008, 4:47 PM
Let's remember Binya got a 6 match ban for his tackle on Scott Brown.
In Portuguese football, a player can be banned for as long as the player he injured remains injured.
Taylor will get a 3 match ban, and that will probably be it. I'd be surprised if a longer ban is given to him.
The law has to come down hard on these lunging tackles. There is no place in the game for a tackle where studs are showing and the foot is high off the ground.
The law has to come down hard on these lunging tackles. There is no place in the game for a tackle where studs are showing and the foot is high off the ground.
Atsenal would've been missing 3/4 players through suspension this week if that was the rule
noddy102
23/02/2008, 5:09 PM
Atsenal would've been missing 3/4 players through suspension this week if that was the rule
If what was a rule?
In fairness, there's tackles like that every week.
shanman2
23/02/2008, 5:44 PM
In fairness, there's tackles like that every week.
No matter what tackle you go into there is a potential for something like that to happen. Next Wenger will be asking UEFA to ban sliding tackles or to ban sliding tackles against Arsenal anyway....(which they aren't far from doing anyway)
If what was a rule?
Your right, my English is poor (sic)
Lads Wenger was always going to be angry and say something over the top about that tackle, but anyone trying to pass this off as something that just happens is bringing their anti-Arsenal bias into this. Taylor put in a dangerous tackle, has possibly shortened Eduardo's career, and should be banned for 3-5 matches. If an opposing player did that to one of your team's players you would all be up in arms about it as well
If an opposing player did that to one of your team's players you would all be up in arms about it as well
But thats still bias...
To suggest everyone who has an opinion on it is either pro Arsenal, or anti-Arsenal is just plain ridiculous.
noddy102
23/02/2008, 6:04 PM
Your right, my English is poor (sic)
Well, your point is that Arsenal would have had some suspensions from previous similar tackles. I take your point.
But, I make the point that, if there was some sort of effort made to root out such tackles and then try and keep some form of consistency with refereeing decisions, then maybe players would stop trying such ridiculous reckless challenges.
Of course, the slow midfielders and centre-halves will always have to attempt lunges/stretches for the ball, but the sort of carry on that Taylor did today HAS to go.
but the sort of carry on that Taylor did today HAS to go.
Agree completely, and I wasn't disagreeing with your intial point either
rambler14
23/02/2008, 6:43 PM
Did ya see Gallas acting like a baby at the end. The 4th official had to stop him from storming off all because Birmingham got a penalty. Then when the whistle went he collapses to the ground and starts balling crying. And he's supposed to be captain?...........grow up ya clown
feo123
23/02/2008, 7:33 PM
he was just too quick for taylor, nicked the ball by him and taylor was clumsy with a late challenge, just not quick enough to get the ball unfortunatly it resulted in a horrible injury to a very good player. arsenal will miss him as i dont think bendtner is fully upto the standard yet. and van persie is still out.
it was a red card but there was no malis in the tackle at all and he was genuinly upset after it.
Hunt's tackle
Carvalho's tackle
Kuyt's tackle
Gunnarsson's tackle
From the top of my head, all the same if not worse than Taylor's this season.
Still the worst offence in the Premiership yet goes to Michael Ball (?) on Mendes at Manchester City. Easily forgotten in such outrage like today
Hunt's tackle
Carvalho's tackle
Kuyt's tackle
Gunnarsson's tackle
From the top of my head, all the same if not worse than Taylor's this season.
Still the worst offence in the Premiership yet goes to Michael Ball (?) on Mendes at Manchester City. Easily forgotten in such outrage like today
Keane's on Haaland was the worst tackle I've ever seen, purely because it's horrible and he practically delights in the fact he meant to do it. If ever a player shouldn't have been allowed play football again because of a challenge it was that scumbag
Just saw the Clichy penalty, anyone else think he got a bit of the ball?
sligo23
23/02/2008, 10:05 PM
Still the worst offence in the Premiership yet goes to Michael Ball (?) on Mendes at Manchester City. Easily forgotten in such outrage like today
think it was Ben Thatcher.
Just saw the Clichy penalty, anyone else think he got a bit of the ball?
he got a decent chunk of the ball. defo not a penalty. very dogy refereein, made some very bad desicions
shaneker
23/02/2008, 10:09 PM
Just seen the Eduardo tackle on MOTD, absolutely shocking and my heart truly goes out to him. Sickening to watch, hope he can return from that as fit and well as possible.
Its a red card. There can be no debate about it, its high and the studs are up. You don't have to hit someone's knee for it to be a high tackle and whilst there is no evidence that Taylor meant to do anything to hurt the lad (and I don't think he did) you have to punish a tackle which due to it being over the ball causes that level of damage, it can't be permitted. Ref got it right, but a red was enough; no need for any extra ban to be put in place.
As for Gallas they have only themselves to blame - would you sign a player who threatened to score an own goal for his previous club? I don't think I'd trust him to be my captain.
All about Eduardo though - good luck to him.
feo123
23/02/2008, 10:29 PM
also from the slow motion replay they showed on MOTD it does show taylor was close to getting the ball but eduardo just got there before him
NeilMcD
23/02/2008, 10:30 PM
I have seen it a few times and listened to a few people who know about the game an I am still convinced that it is not a red card. I think people who know very little about tackling would think its a straight red. Respected people in football have come out and defended Taylor and Wenger has retracted his OTT statement about Taylor on this issue. A terrible injury to Eduardo and the poor lad will be a big miss from the Euro Championships in the summer and I will def miss him for that tournament as he is a class act in front of goal. However I dont think Taylor meant it and I don't think he should have been sent off.
As a previous poster said, there are loads of other tackles far far worse.
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