"Cocaine Clubs"

[Ash]

You can't buy a line, a gram costs anywhere between €50-100 I believe, could be wrong though as I don't use the stuff

I just read that a bit too quick and thought you said
You can buy it online :eek:

[Angus]

How would this in any way provide a solution to drug usage ?

Surely the only intelectually supportable solution is to accept that drugs will exist, to bring them under state control, tax them heavily, use the funds raised to provide support structuresd to wean addicts off of it, and aim top slowly reduce usage throughout society - largely by removing a lot of the 'glam' behind drugs.



You are, of course, absolutely right in what you say but, where I was going was similiar to drink driving. We still have a big drink driving problem but noweher near what it was. The factor that has been key in reducing drink driving is the likelihood of getting caught. There are still plonkers who do it but most people I know have changed their habits.

Similiar on drugs - you are right - no one thing is going to eliminate demand but I would argue that the "casual user" (whatever that is) would be deterred if there was a likelihood of getting caught.

Having said all of that, I am talking theoretically as I have no clinical experience in addiction, chemicals, psychology etc

[jebus]

I just read that a bit too quick and thought you said
You can buy it online :eek:

Actually there is a Canadian website where you can buy acid, weed and magic mushrooms, and they will ship them to you, not sure if they do coke though, honestly, no fooling and all that

[dahamsta]

I have my doubts, sounds like an old wives - or The Star - tale to me. Where is it?

[rebelarmyexile]

I don't know about leafy suburbs and all that. Coke's not as high class as it used to be. I hate "classing" people but all the people I know that have done cocaine have been working class. That's not to say my middle or upper class friends don't do it but the people I know who do are all working class.

In Jim Doyle's and The Tube in Bray, I've seen people doing cocaine, I've seen the stuff on the toilet seats and on people's noses. I don't think these people have ever been thrown out or anything so maybe that's a cause of the problem. No action being taken at the entry.

Why didnt you report this to the police at the time?

In my opinion a lot of the drug acceptance in this country is due to lack of responsibility by the people. On the several occassions i have been offered drugs in Dublin at night i instantly report it to the police and point out the person. If everyone had the same civic responsibility drug use would dwindle.

[anto1208]

I have my doubts, sounds like an old wives - or The Star - tale to me. Where is it?

There is definetly a canadian site that posts weed , i think they do mushrooms i would be surprised if they did acid but i bet there is one out there.

[jebus]

There is definetly a canadian site that posts weed , i think they do mushrooms i would be surprised if they did acid but i bet there is one out there.

Probably the one I PMed to Dahamsta, texted a mate for the addy and he told me you can't get acid there anymore as it's too high risk for the owners of the site, coke could never be bought off it though

[Docboy]

I have my doubts, sounds like an old wives - or The Star - tale to me. Where is it?

No that is true and i've heard of quite a few people around who use it. Not everything gets through but all the person gets is a letter from customs saying that a letter has been intercepted and it's up to them to query it. Obviously anyone of sane mind would leave it alone. They also offer to reship it if it doesn't get through.

Not going to list the name cos I don't want to ruin anyone's party!:D

[kingdom hoop]

Yeah I was just going to say Jebus, if you're referring to Budmail, then they only do weed/hash and mushrooms. Never saw acid or coke advertised when I was, er, researching the site for a college project. It's very good value, and no silica sprayed on either.


On the several occassions i have been offered drugs in Dublin at night

Out of curiosity, where and what? I was smoking outside a pub in the city centre one Saturday afternoon last year when two, I'd guess 18 year old, knackers offered to sell my friend and I some crack. We rejected the kind offer. Never occurred to me to tell the police mind you.


Why didnt you report this to the police at the time?


That's an interesting topic, a bit like the other thread on the neighbour shooting the burglar. What is the extent of our civic duty and should we bulwark our society by taking the law into our own hands or being as tattle-taley as possible to abet the police force?

But, say, do you report to bouncers when (definitely not if!) someone is too drunk? What about breaking red lights? No, I'd imagine. I don't think it's really in human nature to interfere in another's business like that. Of course if it's a major problem for society then maybe we should start. Drugs are probably pretty suitable seeing as though so many people (certainly on Prime Time on Monday) claim they could get you coke within an hour. The idea doesn't sit easily with me though I must say. Clearly RebelArmyExile was the squealer in his class. :p

[anto1208]

AAHHHHH dont name the site or how it works you will have the lazy reporters doing an expose on it and joe duffy will have a show on it and with in a day mary harney will have it all intercepted.

[Block G Raptor]

Why didnt you report this to the police at the time?

In my opinion a lot of the drug acceptance in this country is due to lack of responsibility by the people. On the several occassions i have been offered drugs in Dublin at night i instantly report it to the police and point out the person. If everyone had the same civic responsibility drug use would dwindle.

How much did you pay for that bullet-proof vest on e-bay?

[endabob1]

Why didnt you report this to the police at the time?

In my opinion a lot of the drug acceptance in this country is due to lack of responsibility by the people. On the several occassions i have been offered drugs in Dublin at night i instantly report it to the police and point out the person. If everyone had the same civic responsibility drug use would dwindle.

That's an interesting approach, do you feel the need to do the same for every law-breaking offence you might witness on a night out?
Drunk Driving?
Speeding? (the drvining too fast variety)
Drunk & Disorderly?
Under-Age Drinking?

[dahamsta]

I looked at that site, couldn't be arsed signing up for it. If it does what is claimed, then it's illegal and it'll be shut down. However I'd guess that it doesn't do what people are claiming here; I'd imagine it's a forum where PEOPLE hook up and send each other drugs, which is more difficult to police. But if that's the case it wouldn't be "a site that ships drugs to people". That would be how the Star would explain it to it's moronic readership (and staff), but that wouldn't make it true.

adam

[MojoPin]

Why didnt you report this to the police at the time?

In my opinion a lot of the drug acceptance in this country is due to lack of responsibility by the people. On the several occassions i have been offered drugs in Dublin at night i instantly report it to the police and point out the person. If everyone had the same civic responsibility drug use would dwindle.

so if you were passed a jointy at a party or in the smokers of a pub by a college you call the cops on him?

[jebus]

I looked at that site, couldn't be arsed signing up for it. If it does what is claimed, then it's illegal and it'll be shut down. However I'd guess that it doesn't do what people are claiming here; I'd imagine it's a forum where PEOPLE hook up and send each other drugs, which is more difficult to police. But if that's the case it wouldn't be "a site that ships drugs to people". That would be how the Star would explain it to it's moronic readership (and staff), but that wouldn't make it true.

adam

In fairness you haven't the first idea what they do so I wouldn't be jumping to your conclusions so fast, it would be like me being directed to this site, not bothering looking it up and saying that it's probably a place where they exchange e mail addresses, but don't actually post on forums. My friends order things like mushrooms and weed off of it and bar one time when it didn't get through customs they have never had a problem with it. Why it hasn't been shut down I don't know, but it is basically an online dealers

[Jerry The Saint]

it would be like me being directed to this site, not bothering looking it up and saying that it's probably a place where they exchange e mail addresses, but don't actually post on forums.

I used to think it was an online shoe dealership...:(

[kingdom hoop]

:D While I happened upon this site as I searched for a chiropodist.


However I'd guess that it doesn't do what people are claiming here...

Where's the love man? :)

It's definitely a proper operation, not a conduit for individuals to exchange. Weed is quasi-legal in Canada so that might explain something.

You can get an ounce of high-grade marijuana for €200 incl. P&P, when you're looking at €300 here, and maybe having to put your life in peril by going to Blanch. So 'tis very good value. And actually when you break it down to street prices it works out at about half price. Plus you're not really partaking in illegal activity** so there is a morality premium as well.



** I don't consider smoking etc at home as illegal. Funnily enough nor did a Garda who caught me on the street once; 'do it at home if you want son, just not on the street', he surprisingly said to me, before ruffling my hair and telling me to scamper. (true story, bar the hair ruffling, happened on Grafton St. :o)

[rebelarmyexile]

That's an interesting topic, a bit like the other thread on the neighbour shooting the burglar. What is the extent of our civic duty and should we bulwark our society by <b>taking the law into our own hands<b> or being as tattle-taley as possible to abet the police force?

But, say, do you report to bouncers when (definitely not if!) someone is too drunk? What about breaking red lights? No, I'd imagine. I don't think it's really in human nature to interfere in another's business like that. Of course if it's a major problem for society then maybe we should start. Drugs are probably pretty suitable seeing as though so many people (certainly on Prime Time on Monday) claim they could get you coke within an hour. The idea doesn't sit easily with me though I must say. Clearly RebelArmyExile was the squealer in his class. :p


It is not taking the law into our own hands, it is merely reporting crime like any good citizen should do (serious crime) citing red lights and drunkeness is irrelevant.


so if you were passed a jointy at a party or in the smokers of a pub by a college you call the cops on him?

While i do not condone drug use of any kind, I see dealing (as i mentioned in a previous comment) so be disgusting and would rather just shoot them, cops are not hard enough on this animals. as you said above....i would make (and have done so) my opinions known on drug usage, and thankfully most my mates have no interest in hash/weed etc so it doesnt really come up.

drug use on my side would ruin my career (or if i associated with drug users and was made public) so i steer clear


How much did you pay for that bullet-proof vest on e-bay?


Got a bulk discount

[jebus]

Are you tlking about all drug dealers here rebelarmy, say if I sold a bit of weed between myself, my friends and the odd friend of a friend, I'm a drug dealer, but do I deserve a bullet for it? Moreso than say a drunken tosspot wandering the streets at night roaring abuse at random strangers?

[kingdom hoop]

It is not taking the law into our own hands

Sorry yeah, not in the strictest sense of the phrase obviously. I don't think I really implied that though. I was more interested in how much we should help the police.


it is merely reporting crime like any good citizen should do (serious crime) citing red lights and drunkeness is irrelevant.

It sounds good in theory, but actually doing it, creating such a culture of participatory citizenship, is a different kettle of fish. What exactly are you suggesting? That if I know of a pub where people are doing drugs then I should inform the police so that they can raid it?


By the by, you forgot to give the examples of where you were offered drugs and pointed the people out to the police. I believe you, I'd just like to hear about it though!

[inexile]

the question to ask is if you saw someone with a gun or a knife in his/her hand would you notify the gardai? i personally believe if the answer is yes then if you saw anyone with drugs you should do the same as we have seen in the last few weeks how lethal these drugs can be, be that through overdose or dealers getting shot dead over debts, turf wars you name it then you should notify the gardai if you see someone with drugs

[jebus]

the question to ask is if you saw someone with a gun or a knife in his/her hand would you notify the gardai? i personally believe if the answer is yes then if you saw anyone with drugs you should do the same as we have seen in the last few weeks how lethal these drugs can be, be that through overdose or dealers getting shot dead over debts, turf wars you name it then you should notify the gardai if you see someone with drugs

But why do you care if a dealer gets shot? One less scourge off the streets I would have thought? Plus what consititutes a dealer? And how have we only seen in the last few weeks how harmful drugs can be? Surely we knew before the death of an objectively pretty blonde that they could do a bit of damage? And is it your right to deny people the right to do said damage to their body if they so wish? A lot of questions in the drug debate I'm afraid