"Cocaine Clubs"

**MojoPin** · 10/12/2007, 1:01 PM

"leafy suburbs" and "cocaine clubs" is where people are taking cocaine and other bad drugs and its up to the public to phone the gardai if they know where these places are........

sound like a 10 year old to you????

na minister Carey on the radio

**Block G Raptor** · 10/12/2007, 1:09 PM

Cocaine Clubs? what a load of tosh-cocaine is being taken in the bog's of nearly every pub and club in the country-is the minister for real. actually on this point it's very easy for pub/clubs to take measures to prevent cocaine use in toilets. some places have started to rub vaseline on the smooth surfaces in bathrooms to stop snorting. still the junkies will find a way but at least it makes it harder for them

**Macy** · 10/12/2007, 1:14 PM

Just say no, NO, just say no.... Carey and Co to recreate Grange Hill. Carey as Mr Bronson, Harney as Rolly, Willie O'Dea as Ziggy, Biffo as Gonch...

**Lionel Ritchie** · 10/12/2007, 1:21 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

Just say no, NO, just say no.... Carey and Co to recreate Grange Hill. Carey as Mr Bronson, Harney as Rolly, Willie O'Dea as Ziggy, Biffo as Gonch...

A great, great record encapsulating the zeitgeist of 1986 ...and now if you'll excuse me I have a glue-bag to finish.

**ramsfan** · 10/12/2007, 1:31 PM

just imagine harney running around the country kicking in nthe door of the "COCAINE CLUBS",SHE COULD BELLY FLOP THE DOOR OPEN

**Jerry The Saint** · 10/12/2007, 1:48 PM

Originally Posted by MojoPin

"leafy suburbs"

I remember there was a similar problem surrounding the Annabel's trial - the leafy aspect of certain suburbs was highlighted in every single media report.

The most obvious solution to this problem is to assemble a crack (sic) Government taskforce to eradicate all leafs from society, starting with suburban areas (as this is a far greater problem than leafy cities, leafy provincial towns, or the leafy countryside).

Instead of people posting snide remarks on here, I believe the Minister should be congratulated for the work that has already been undertaken in the War on Trees. I've noticed in recent weeks that there are not nearly as many leafs as there was just a few short months ago. Hopefully this trend continues and leafy suburbs (and by extension, everything that's wrong with society) will soon be a thing of the past.

**Wolfie** · 10/12/2007, 1:53 PM

Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

I remember there was a similar problem surrounding the Annabel's trial - the leafy aspect of certain suburbs was highlighted in every single media report.

The most obvious solution to this problem is to assemble a crack (sic) Government taskforce to eradicate all leafs from society, starting with suburban areas (as this is a far greater problem than leafy cities, leafy provincial towns, or the leafy countryside).

Instead of people posting snide remarks on here, I believe the Minister should be congratulated for the work that has already been undertaken in the War on Trees. I've noticed in recent weeks that there are not nearly as many leafs as there was just a few short months ago. Hopefully this trend continues and leafy suburbs (and by extension, everything that's wrong with society) will soon be a thing of the past.

I blame the Nigerians. Its the leafy suburbs and the Nigerians.

**MojoPin** · 10/12/2007, 1:59 PM

Originally Posted by Block G Raptor

actually on this point it's very easy for pub/clubs to take measures to prevent cocaine use in toilets. some places have started to rub vaseline on the smooth surfaces in bathrooms to stop snorting. still the junkies will find a way but at least it makes it harder for them

it doesnt make it any harder as most bumps are taken from a key or a coin anyway snorting lines is more of a party thing...

Originally Posted by Wolfie

I blame the Nigerians. Its the leafy suburbs and the Nigerians.

when i was listening to the radio i was actually waiting for Mr.Carey to blame the influx of eastern europeans or africians. incompetance is a killer not cocaine....

**pete** · 10/12/2007, 2:38 PM

What is a leafy suburb? Not many tree lined suburbs in this country.

**dahamsta** · 10/12/2007, 3:00 PM

Just Say No To Fianna Fail boys and girls.

**beautifulrock** · 10/12/2007, 4:06 PM

Originally Posted by dahamsta

Just Say No To Fianna Fail boys and girls.

Whilst I totally agree that sucessive governments have taken to sticking their collective heads in the sand on this and a number of other of issues I refuse to see how we, as the people of this country, can abdicate resposibility for the increase of use in drugs. Everyone has a choice not to do it, the majority are aware of the dangers of doing so. No one can deny that drug taking is now mainstream, I am not surprised at all by the report that 90% of pubs and clubs have traces of cocaine. I have read all the breast beating and keening following the high profile cases over the last few days. What I have not yet seen is one idea on how this can be controlled. It is time we all got our heads of the sand and quickly,

**John83** · 10/12/2007, 4:16 PM

Originally Posted by beautifulrock

...No one can deny that drug taking is now mainstream...

I always wonder what percentage of the people loudly decrying drug use themselves take or have taken them.

**Noelys Guitar** · 10/12/2007, 4:43 PM

Originally Posted by John83

I always wonder what percentage of the people loudly decrying drug use themselves take or have taken them.

Good question. Nothing is going to stop cocaine use other than users themselves stopping.

**MojoPin** · 10/12/2007, 5:32 PM

nothing will ever stop drug use unless we ban all imports and flights and have a human shied around the country.....

**pineapple stu** · 10/12/2007, 5:41 PM

Originally Posted by pete

What is a leafy suburb? Not many tree lined suburbs in this country.

You wouldn't notice that up the northside alright.

Originally Posted by beautiful rock

No one can deny that drug taking is now mainstream, I am not surprised at all by the report that 90% of pubs and clubs have traces of cocaine.

I hate generalisations like this. How do you define "mainstream"? Can you point to the report you mention?

I know my fair share of people and not one has ever taken cocaine (that I know of), or has ever mentioned knowing someone who has taken cocaine. I've never even been offered cocaine (all this applies for any other hard drug, for that matter). Maybe I'm just unlucky; I don't know. Also, if a pub jacks have traces of cocaine, that can mean one person in the past year did coke in there, out of the thousands who visited the pub.

I'm not for a moment saying drugs aren't a problem in Ireland, and judging by the number of scumbags shooting (does that count as a pun?) each other, it's a growing problem, but I hate this notion that drugs are overrunning the country and you can't get away from them, especially when it's based on next to no evidence at all, like your post.

**Dodge** · 10/12/2007, 5:57 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I know my fair share of people and not one has ever taken cocaine (that I know of), or has ever mentioned knowing someone who has taken cocaine. I've never even been offered cocaine (all this applies for any other hard drug, for that matter)

You'd wanna get out more.

**Angus** · 10/12/2007, 6:08 PM

This issue is like the Health service - totally impossible to resolve, given the realpolitik in place.

The government can never say what they really think - i.e. caveat emptor - the state cannot say that because of the need to be seen to be caring and supportive of addicts etc.

Therefore, we will see lots of drug strategies, which have zero chance of succeeding, and the state know they have zero chance of succeeding, but they solve a purpose in order to be seen to be doing something.

Reference the PJ O Rourke book, Parliament of Whores where he asks the US drug czar how to deal with the issue - the strategy was to make a big side show about a related issue and just sit back and do nothing - because the 2war" is unwinnable.

Unfortunately, we, the public, have little appetite for what would really solve the issue - namely, a true caveat amptor strategy, searches on demand from the authorities, random drug testing - now, I know there is a trust issue on these things but if we don't accept thes ethings, we have no interest in sorting this.

**John83** · 10/12/2007, 6:49 PM

Originally Posted by Angus

Unfortunately, we, the public, have little appetite for what would really solve the issue - namely, a true caveat amptor strategy, searches on demand from the authorities, random drug testing - now, I know there is a trust issue on these things but if we don't accept thes ethings, we have no interest in sorting this.

Between this and a previous post on freedom of speech, I'm beginning to think your political leanings are decidedly right of centre Angus! Most unusual here.

**jebus** · 10/12/2007, 6:57 PM

Lord God some of the people around here lead me to despair, I mean random searches? FFS we may as well blame it on the Jews and be done with it at that rate.

Anyway the war on drugs is lost, has been lost for at least 40 years, and will continue to be lost until poiliticians realise that and bring about a number of changes, namely legalising and monitoring ALL drugs, supporting drug producing countries other produce (Columbia would like to sell bananas and coffee too you know), and promoting free drug rehabilitation programs. Until that happens lets all pretend to be horrified into action when minor celebrities overdo it a bit

**pineapple stu** · 10/12/2007, 7:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

You'd wanna get out more.

I and everyone I know so.

Originally Posted by jebus

Anyway the war on drugs is lost, has been lost for at least 40 years, and will continue to be lost until poiliticians realise that and bring about a number of changes, namely legalising and monitoring ALL drugs, supporting drug producing countries other produce (Columbia would like to sell bananas and coffee too you know), and promoting free drug rehabilitation programs.

That's what happens in Switzerland; anyone got comparison drug rates between the two?