Roy Hodgson (new Fulham manager)

[NeilMcD]

Some record. 4 defeats in 32 qualifying games.
In our last campaign we lost 3 games from 12 matches.

[cavan_fan]

Is there anything negative about Hodgson at all? Can't understand how he's not top of the list. One thing that strikes me there is has he ever worked with young players. Jobs at Inter and Blackburn suggest not.


Yes his time at Blackburn was a disaster. He won 22 out of 62 with a good Blackburn side.

In addition he has managed no-one for more than 2 years since the Swiss job (this is being held against Venables).

All of the candidates have their flaws. I honestly believe there is not much to choose between Hodgson, Houllier, Venables (if he is motivated, i.e. performance based pay) and a few others. It depends on the spin you put on it.

[Stuttgart88]

From the same BBC article:

Hodgson's contract with Finland expires at the end of November and the Finns have called a media conference on Friday to clarify the Englishman's future.

"My contract runs out at the end of this month, but I haven't made up mind yet what I'm going to do," said Hodgson, who has been invited to attend a coaching convention next week in Brazil.

"We've been negotiating for a while and they've been attempting to get me to stay. We're still discussing it, but my future is very open and I haven't committed myself to the next two years."

"But I can only echo Sven-Goran Eriksson's sentiments. When people from either top federations or big clubs want to speak to you it's very foolish not to do so.


I'd add that when a respectable candidate is available, it'd be foolish not to approach him and interview him.

[Dr. Ogba]

:rolleyes:
From the same BBC article:

Hodgson's contract with Finland expires at the end of November and the Finns have called a media conference on Friday to clarify the Englishman's future.

"My contract runs out at the end of this month, but I haven't made up mind yet what I'm going to do," said Hodgson, who has been invited to attend a coaching convention next week in Brazil.

"We've been negotiating for a while and they've been attempting to get me to stay. We're still discussing it, but my future is very open and I haven't committed myself to the next two years."

"But I can only echo Sven-Goran Eriksson's sentiments. When people from either top federations or big clubs want to speak to you it's very foolish not to do so.



I'd add that when a respectable candidate is available, it'd be foolish not to approach him and interview him.

exactly....why in the hell have they not approached him???? this is now bordering on the FAI-arcical :rolleyes:

[eekers]

Yes his time at Blackburn was a disaster. He won 22 out of 62 with a good Blackburn side.

In addition he has managed no-one for more than 2 years since the Swiss job (this is being held against Venables).

All of the candidates have their flaws. I honestly believe there is not much to choose between Hodgson, Houllier, Venables (if he is motivated, i.e. performance based pay) and a few others. It depends on the spin you put on it.

he qualified a crap blackburn team for the uefa cup.
then the next season had a load of injuries and wasnt giving a chance

[eekers]

:rolleyes:

exactly....why in the hell have they not approached him???? this is now bordering on the FAI-arcical :rolleyes:

its the selection committee job to approach him
the selection committee hasnt been formed yet

apparently no one's been approached yet officially anyway

[Jerry The Saint]

its the selection committee job to approach him
the selection committee hasnt been formed yet

apparently no one's been approached yet officially anyway

But why did Delaney himself ring up Paul Jewell and beg him not to take any other job offers when he couldn't even be bothered to get some ex-player to phone Hodgson to find out if he'd be interested:confused:

[colster]

But why did Delaney himself ring up Paul Jewell and beg him not to take any other job offers when he couldn't even be bothered to get some ex-player to phone Hodgson to find out if he'd be interested:confused:

He rang him to find out why he didn't want the job.

[Jerry The Saint]

He rang him to find out why he didn't want the job.

That's even more pathetic -


Was it something I did? I can change! WHY DON'T YOU LIKE MY HAIRCUT!!??! :(

[colster]

That's even more pathetic -

How so? He rang to find out if the reason was within his or the FAI's control e.g. money. I think that's a good move.

[Dr. Ogba]

But why did Delaney himself ring up Paul Jewell and beg him not to take any other job offers when he couldn't even be bothered to get some ex-player to phone Hodgson to find out if he'd be interested:confused:

exacterly, why can't they sound-out Hodgson in the same was as they did Jewell??

[John83]

How so? He rang to find out if the reason was within his or the FAI's control e.g. money. I think that's a good move.
I agree. I think the newspapers and some fans have taken Delaney's attempt here to keep the panel's options open as something it's not. The Indo's coverage in particular was a pathetic attempt at journalism, stating opinion as fact.

[Stuttgart88]

But why did Delaney himself ring up Paul Jewell
Because his most vocal critic, Dunphy, put forward Jewell's name?

[eekers]

i think he rang him out of courtesy to be honest.

or maybe something like this:

"Giles told me you want to go back into club management?"
"yep - i wanna work with top quality players like Tyrone Mears and Matthew Oakley on a daily basis"
"bad buzz, do you fancy doing a bit of part time work on the side as a member of me and john courtenay's selection panel to pick venables, do ya?"
"-
"hello?.....hello?.....ah well i can get andy townsend instead he'll pick him"

[jmurphyc]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7117572.stm

Linking him with the England vacancy. One thing that worries me about this article is that he seems to be implying that he won't put forward his own name - if someone wants him they'll have to contact him, and I'm not sure if the FAI is capable of this.

[Stuttgart88]

He also indicated strongly that he's open to being approached.

It's a no-lose situation for FAI. If they don't like him after an interview, fine, but not approaching him especially after all the guff about doing the right thing would represent a massive neglect of duty.

[Armando]

This is feckin torture! Here we have the real deal in limbo waiting to be approached and yet time ticks by. He is willing to talk to federations/clubs - he said so himself.

The Finnish press conference is tomorrow. It's extremely unlikely they will announce anything other than his departure. The only reason he will stay on is because he wants to continue working and as, inexplicably, no one seems to have shown an interest in him could sign another contract.

N. Ireland wanted him when Sanchez left. They approached him in mid contract with Finland and yet we ignore him when he is out of contract. How ridiculous can it get?!!

By the way how long does it take to form a ****ing selection committee. Do something you ****ing imbeciles!!

....By the way, I still foolishly refuse to believe Venables has the job...it just can't be so:(

[Stuttgart88]

how long does it take to form a ****ing selection committee. Long enough to allow credible candidates to conveniently slip away into other roles, leaving only one candidate?

[Ireland4ever]

''But I'm proud of what I've done. I've had 32 qualifying games with Switzerland and Finland and lost four of them...''

Dont know the full extent of his record (Draws/Wins) but thats impressive.

[Armando]

''But I'm proud of what I've done. I've had 32 qualifying games with Switzerland and Finland and lost four of them...''

Dont know the full extent of his record (Draws/Wins) but thats impressive.


Switzerland: Won 11, Drawn 5, Lost 2

Finland: Won 6, Drawn 6, Lost 2

World Cup 94

1. ITALY 10 7 2 1 22- 7 16
2. SWITZERLAND 10 6 3 1 23- 6 15
3. Portugal 10 6 2 2 18- 5 14
4. Scotland 10 4 3 3 14-13 11
5. Malta 10 1 1 8 3-23 3
6. Estonia 10 0 1 9 1-27 1


Euro 96

1. Switzerland 8 5 2 1 15-7 17
2. Turkey 8 4 3 1 16-8 15
3. Sweden 8 2 3 3 9-10 9
4. Hungary 8 2 2 4 7-13 8
5. Iceland 8 1 2 5 3-12 5


Euro 08

1. Poland 14 8 4 2 24-12 28
2. Portugal 14 7 6 1 24-10 27
3. Serbia 14 6 6 2 22-11 24
4. Finland 14 6 6 2 13-7 24
5. Belgium 14 5 3 6 14-16 18
6. Kazakhstan 14 2 4 8 11-21 10
7. Armenia 12 2 3 7 4-13 9
8. Azerbaijan 12 1 2 9 6 28 5

[Noelys Guitar]

Roy Hodgson is part of the English FA selection committee with Toshack, Platini and Beckenbauer.
Meanwhile, in contrast with the FAI's reluctance to reveal any names, the English FA's chief executive Brian Barwick has revealed the experts that he has spoken to in relation to filling their managerial vacancy. They are Uefa chief Michel Platini, German legend Franz Beckenbauer, Welsh manager John Toshack and Finnish boss Roy Hodgson

[CollegeTillIDie]

Switzerland: Won 11, Drawn 5, Lost 2

Finland: Won 6, Drawn 6, Lost 2

World Cup 94

1. ITALY 10 7 2 1 22- 7 16
2. SWITZERLAND 10 6 3 1 23- 6 15
3. Portugal 10 6 2 2 18- 5 14
4. Scotland 10 4 3 3 14-13 11
5. Malta 10 1 1 8 3-23 3
6. Estonia 10 0 1 9 1-27 1


Euro 96

1. Switzerland 8 5 2 1 15-7 17
2. Turkey 8 4 3 1 16-8 15
3. Sweden 8 2 3 3 9-10 9
4. Hungary 8 2 2 4 7-13 8
5. Iceland 8 1 2 5 3-12 5


Euro 08

1. Poland 14 8 4 2 24-12 28
2. Portugal 14 7 6 1 24-10 27
3. Serbia 14 6 6 2 22-11 24
4. Finland 14 6 6 2 13-7 24
5. Belgium 14 5 3 6 14-16 18
6. Kazakhstan 14 2 4 8 11-21 10
7. Armenia 12 2 3 7 4-13 9
8. Azerbaijan 12 1 2 9 6 28 5

Those Armenia -Azerbaijan games are not going to take place now by the look of things.......

[macdermesser]

Long enough to allow credible candidates to conveniently slip away into other roles, leaving only one candidate?

Cue the "Well Eamonn, I had an awful lot of paperwork to get through during those two months" bol.loxology"

[OwlsFan]

Because his most vocal critic, Dunphy, put forward Jewell's name?

Is this the same Dunphy who used to have John Delaney on the Last Word every week during the Byrne era. `You`re one of the good guys John, one of the reformers...`.

[Stuttgart88]

Yes, that's be him!

[Noelys Guitar]

Hodgson has just quit as Finland manager. Said he has'nt been asked to be part of an England manager selection committee.

[btid1]

Hodgson has just quit as Finland manager. And is backing out of the England selector gig.

Possible candidate for England job then?

Strange for him to resign if he is not fairly sure he has a job elsewhere!

[Ireland4ever]

Sign him up!

[Sligo Hornet]

Roy has announced his resignation from the Finland job!

Roy Hodgson has resigned as coach of Finland following their failure to qualify for Euro 2008, sparking rumours he could be in line to take over Scotland or the Republic of Ireland.

[geysir]

Let the rumours gather wind I say.

Can´t see how he resigned when his contract ran out in November.

[Dr. Ogba]

Roy has announced his resignation from the Finland job!

Roy Hodgson has resigned as coach of Finland following their failure to qualify for Euro 2008, sparking rumours he could be in line to take over Scotland or the Republic of Ireland.

:eek::eek: GET HIM IN NOW!!!!!

[NeilMcD]

I think he resigned in the same way that Kerr was sacked. He did not re sign a contract and Kerrs contract was not not resigned.

[irishfan86]

I think he resigned in the same way that Kerr was sacked. He did not re sign a contract and Kerrs contract was not not resigned.

The only difference was that Finland wanted Hodgson to return, whereas Kerr was not given the option a new contract.

[NeilMcD]

Thats what I was saying.

[Armando]

Nothing has really changed today. It was commom knowledge his contract was up on November 30th and it was 99% certain he would not sign up again.
They FAI are not going to suddenly go after him now...they are hopeless:(

[Dr. Ogba]

either way he's available and should be approached asap...

[Bondvillain]

either way he's available and should be approached asap...

He will be.


By England and Scotland.

Our boys are currently on the pish in stringfellows planning the best way to announce a clear and honest selection process that will result in the announcement of Venables as new Irish manager.

[NeilMcD]

We dont know if he will be or wont be contaced. We dont know if they have contacted Venables at this stage.

[Bondvillain]

True, all we do know is that the one man who said he wouldnt be contacting anyone in relation to the Ireland job contacted Paul Jewell in relation to the Ireland job.

That was simply a solitary ingredient of this rich farce. How can we depend on a man who cant keep track of the lies he's told, mere days after he's told them?

[kingdom hoop]

How can we depend on a man who cant keep track of the lies he's told, mere days after he's told them?

Blind faith and eternal optimism? :)

Come on John, do it, you know it makes sense.

[Torn-Ado]

We won't get him. Not now with all these other countries managerless. I can see him taking the Australian or England job.

[Ireland4ever]

We won't get him. Not now with all these other countries managerless. I can see him taking the Australian or England job.

- I cant see him being in the running for the England Job - Not High profile enough to satisfy the english media/fans

- Surely the irish job would be more appealing than the Australian gig, what with proximity to home and the like.

[shakermaker1982]

get on the phone to the man now and ask for a sit down. No harm in finding out whether he'd be tempted.

[Ireland4ever]

get on the phone to the man now and ask for a sit down. No harm in finding out whether he'd be tempted.

If ya give me his number ill text him!

''Hi Roy do you want the job??'' If he says no, ill just tell him it was meant for Roy Keane!

[Torn-Ado]

- I cant see him being in the running for the England Job - Not High profile enough to satisfy the english media/fans

- Surely the irish job would be more appealing than the Australian gig, what with proximity to home and the like.

To be honest, I'd say the Australian job is far more appealing.

[Ireland4ever]

To be honest, I'd say the Australian job is far more appealing.

Just seen this quote from Dick Advocat on why he turned the Australian job down in favour of staying at Zenith St. Petersburg.....

Asked exactly why his future would be in St Petersburg rather than Sydney, his answer was simple.
"I couldn't refuse this offer. It was quite a lot of money, to be honest."
''How much more?''
"It was not double, it was more." [/COLOR][/FONT]
That's a lot then?
"Much more."
Surely we would be offering more than the Australians could afford?

[Bondvillain]

To be honest, I'd say the Australian job is far more appealing.

I doubt we'll ever find out, as he more than likely wont feature in the Irish search.

[Noelys Guitar]

We dont know if he will be or wont be contaced. We dont know if they have contacted Venables at this stage.

Venables was contacted last Saturday by the FAI. The English Journalist (can't remember his name) who is a regular contributor to newstalk's On The Ball was having lunch with TV last Saturday when Venables recieved a call from the FAI. Was covered on last nights show.

[Stuttgart88]

I bet Venables bought the lunch too.

From 11-a-side.com:

The 60-year-old Englishman – who has also been linked with the England manager’s position – is expected to be one of six or seven prospective managers to meet with the FAI’s independent subcommittee over the next week.

Hodgson is currently 18/1 fifth favourite to succeed Steve Staunton in Irish football’s top job.

Will they really meet 6-7 candidates?

[NeilMcD]

Ahhh that old trick by Venables, have lunch with a journalist and pretend to receive a call from the FAI.