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Noelys Guitar
24/11/2007, 12:11 PM
Hodgson was just on R5 live being asked what credentials the next England manager should have. He basically touted his own credentials, most notably experience, but I can't see England looking his way.
Did he mention the Ireland Job?
Schlooooomp
24/11/2007, 2:52 PM
Last mention on betting on Hodgson from me, best odds that I can find are Ladbrokes @ 20/1, have checked numerous other sites that will match you first bet (usually up €25, €50 or sometimes €100) on joining but most of them have no market on the next Irish manager, if they do then they odds are less than Ladbrokes.
eekers
24/11/2007, 4:43 PM
Hodgson was just on R5 live being asked what credentials the next England manager should have. He basically touted his own credentials, most notably experience, but I can't see England looking his way.
i'd say roy hodgson was in london on his way to the world cup draw much like john delaney was in london on the way to the world cup draw.
i'm sure he will be interviewed imformally at least and i'd be shocked if he didnt impress
Stuttgart88
24/11/2007, 5:24 PM
Did he mention the Ireland Job?Yeah, he said he was offered it and would sign in the morning. Sorry, don't know how I forgot to mention that.
Noelys Guitar
24/11/2007, 5:31 PM
Yeah, he said he was offered it and would sign in the morning. Sorry, don't know how I forgot to mention that.
Maybe he said it under his breath or quickly or in Finnish!
eekers
24/11/2007, 5:59 PM
Maybe he said it under his breath or quickly or in Finnish!
any truth in the rumour that he's currently learning irish for his first teamtalk?
eekers
25/11/2007, 12:12 AM
i just found a load of roy hodgson 'talking about tactics' video's on uefa.com's training ground site
442 (http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/index.html#34002/128/519235)
433 (http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/index.html#34002/128/519237)
352 (http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/index.html#34002/128/519239)
playing against 10 men (http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/index.html#34002/512/519171)
goal down 10 minutes left (http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/index.html#34002/512/548670)
goal down after 1st leg (http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/index.html#34002/512/548677)
goal up after 1st leg (http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/index.html#34002/512/548676)
i'd love to see stan doing this
playing against 10 men? u tell me
livehead1
25/11/2007, 12:56 AM
If the FAI ever listen to what the fans want....the fans want an approach made to Roy Hodgson, I would be delighted if he was given the job.
danonion
25/11/2007, 2:09 AM
I'm totally sold on Hodgson, he knows the game and he'll know our players.
eekers
25/11/2007, 4:23 AM
time to act i think
story linking hodgson to the vacant australian manger job
http://www.theage.com.au/news/soccer/hodgson-in-frame-for-socceroos-job/2007/11/24/1195753382162.html
The Englishman narrowly failed to qualify for next year's European Championships with Finland and is understood to have made his interests in the Australian position clear.
Schlooooomp
25/11/2007, 9:51 AM
time to act i think
story linking hodgson to the vacant australian manger job
http://www.theage.com.au/news/soccer/hodgson-in-frame-for-socceroos-job/2007/11/24/1195753382162.html
There is an opportunity for the FAI to step in and try to attract Hodgson now. I got to say that Australia seems like a more attractive proposition, especially as they are in the Asian qualifiers. No more qualifying by playing a selection of menaingless games followed by all or nothing in a playoff.
paul_oshea
25/11/2007, 12:17 PM
to be honest he hasnt said a great deal in the the last 2 videos there. He says the problems that arise for both teams, which are fairly obvious, especialy from a tactical point of view if you are playing a 4 - 5 - 1 or a 4 - 4 - 2, but he doesnt give any actual solution of how you could counteract this. Thats the real problem here, its obvious the lone striker is going to get isolated from midfield as the more attack minded midfielder has to get back and defend, its also obvious that the right and/or left wing ( depending on player sent off i spose ) has to double up and help the full back. These are all obvious things, but the solution that he never offered is how you can go about attacking and scoring when down to 10 men....
Stuttgart88
25/11/2007, 3:42 PM
Finland's results in this campaign to date:
Poland 1 – 3 Finland
Finland 1 – 1 Portugal
Armenia 0 – 0 Finland
Kazakhstan 0 – 2 Finland
Finland 1 – 0 Armenia
Azerbaijan 1 – 0 Finland
Finland 0 – 2 Serbia
Finland 2 – 0 Belgium
Finland 2 – 1 Kazakhstan
Finland 0 – 0 Poland
Belgium 0 – 0 Finland
Finland 2 – 1 Azerbaijan
Portugal – Finland playing tonight
Mixed enough and they’re really only still in contention because Portugal shipped 90th minute equalizers in back-to-back games in September with Poland & Serbia (I laughed sadistically at the time, thinking that I knew how they felt!).
That said, very respectable results with what I guess isn’t that strong or deep a squad and only slipped on one of a few banana skins.
By comparison Portugal and Poland each won by 2 in Azerbaijan, Serbia by 5 whereas Finland lost.
At least Kazakstan didn't beat them 5-2 and draw with them in Helsinki!
Given the tricky Eastern European nature of our group for the World Cup, how does Hodgson's record in those games make people feel?
eekers
25/11/2007, 4:02 PM
i saw highlights of that Azerbaijan away game they lost and they were all over them and then let in a jammy last minute goal they werent outplayed or anything.
venables managed england 25 times
only 3 of those games were away
v ireland lost 0-1 (its up on the fa's website as that and im not gonna disagree with them)
v norway drew 0-0
v china won 3-0 (china were really awful in the 90s)
onephillyhughes
25/11/2007, 5:17 PM
And all friendlies. Venables didn't have to take them through a Qualification campaign.
Noelys Guitar
25/11/2007, 5:56 PM
Bobby Robson is helping the FAI and the FA select new managers. This might work in our favour. Robson is known and respected around Europe. He could "sell" the Ireland job to those managers who won't get the England job. We can't pay the same money as England but if the FAI are offering a decent package then we might end up with a top European coach yet.
Noelys Guitar
25/11/2007, 11:15 PM
Hodgson has just said on skysports that he has had one particular offer that he is likley to take up. I hope it is us.
Armando
25/11/2007, 11:28 PM
Ye just saw that.
He acknowledged that finland still want him but he is unlikely to continue as their manager because he has a few offers and he would like to take up one of them.
Fingers crossed. Although Australia have entered the race for him and are quite an attractive proposition. He would feel he could definitely qualify them.
NeilMcD
25/11/2007, 11:32 PM
that sounds like its the australia offer. Does not sound good for us i am afraid.
Noelys Guitar
26/11/2007, 12:47 AM
Possibly Inter Milan.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=47257
geysir
26/11/2007, 12:53 AM
He is favourite for the Australia job, explains why he was never taken seriously in the betting market for us.
Noelys Guitar
26/11/2007, 12:57 AM
He is favourite for the Australia job, explains why he was never taken seriously in the betting market for us.
I just contacted customer service at sportingbetAus and they told me they have closed the book on Aussie manager . Looks like Australia then.
SuperDave
26/11/2007, 1:24 AM
the incredibly bad aussie draw (china? most populous nation on earth? iraq? reigning champions of asia) is probably the worst they could have hoped for, so maybe he'll want us instead. if delaney didn't at least make an approach, he's a fool.
eekers
26/11/2007, 1:30 AM
if we dont get hodgson, i cant see another candidate i'd be happy with
Noelys Guitar
26/11/2007, 1:32 AM
the incredibly bad aussie draw (china? most populous nation on earth? iraq? reigning champions of asia) is probably the worst they could have hoped for, so maybe he'll want us instead. if delaney didn't at least make an approach, he's a fool.
I'm convinced that if Delaney was to offer the Ireland job to Hodgson he would take it over the Aussie offer. All of this rigmarole of 3 man committees. And Robson and Howe advising the 3 man committee who report back to Delaney. Who then reports to the FAI. Madness. We are going to end up once more with a manager that nobody else wants if this continues.
Schlooooomp
26/11/2007, 9:26 AM
Possibly Inter Milan.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=47257
Can't see a date associated with that story on Tribal Football
NeilMcD
26/11/2007, 9:38 AM
If you look at the videos of Hodgson, I am convinced that if he was interviewed by Giles or Giles had a chat with him that he would be impressed. The biggest reason for this is in what to do in the last ten mins when you are chasing a game. Giles constantly says that you should continue to play your game, whatever game that is. He does not agree that you should just pump long balls up to Robert Huth or whoever it may be if you have not done that for the whole game. This is what Hodgson says also in the video. He has always impressed me when talking about the game and he is highly regarded throughout Europe as a forward thinking coach who gets results. I just pray that the FAI at least talk to him.
NeilMcD
26/11/2007, 10:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfnVxwQbMBM
Armando
27/11/2007, 12:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfnVxwQbMBM
Did you see the other one?.......special guest appearance from Paul ince!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2b6p-qq9s
OwlsFan
27/11/2007, 9:17 AM
Saw on Sky that Hodgson is being touted as Ince's 2nd in command at Birmingham. He's hardly going to go for that?
Schlooooomp
27/11/2007, 9:34 AM
Saw on Sky that Hodgson is being touted as Ince's 2nd in command at Birmingham. He's hardly going to go for that?
I seen on SSN that Ince was linked with the Derby job, there was no mention of Hodgson though.
Saw on Sky that Hodgson is being touted as Ince's 2nd in command at Birmingham. He's hardly going to go for that?
How insulting !!
I'm sure Hodgson has the Aussie job, much warmer than Finland
OwlsFan
27/11/2007, 10:49 AM
Saw on Sky that Hodgson is being touted as Ince's 2nd in command at Birmingham. He's hardly going to go for that?
Sorry, I meant Derby.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-23423157-details/Derby+want+former+England+star+Ince+as+their+new+b oss+and+Hodgson+to+help+him+out/article.do
"The 60-year-old, who guided Switzerland to the 1994 World Cup and Euro 96, has been offered a job as technical director by Inter but is holding off while he waits to negotiate a deal with Derby."
Giles better get on the phone unless he's never heard of Hodgson of course.
Noelys Guitar
27/11/2007, 11:16 AM
Sorry, I meant Derby.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-23423157-details/Derby+want+former+England+star+Ince+as+their+new+b oss+and+Hodgson+to+help+him+out/article.do
"The 60-year-old, who guided Switzerland to the 1994 World Cup and Euro 96, has been offered a job as technical director by Inter but is holding off while he waits to negotiate a deal with Derby."
Giles better get on the phone unless he's never heard of Hodgson of course.
Professional football is an insular world. So you would have to believe that it would take Delaney/Giles maybe 10 mins and 2 to 3 calls to get Hodgson's number. They contacted Jewell who is touting to get back into club management so why not contact Hodgson.
geysir
27/11/2007, 1:01 PM
Giles better get on the phone unless he's never heard of Hodgson of course.
:D
Giles was asked about him this morning, it sounded like he hadn't a clue about Hodgson.
SuperDave
27/11/2007, 1:22 PM
:D
Giles was asked about him this morning, it sounded like he hadn't a clue about Hodgson.
an element of Hodgson's choice about this one?
[sorry]
NeilMcD
27/11/2007, 1:40 PM
:D
Giles was asked about him this morning, it sounded like he hadn't a clue about Hodgson.
what was he on. what did he say.
geysir
27/11/2007, 1:47 PM
what was he on.
sounded like the after effects of a few gins :)
(morning interview on newstalk)
what did he say
He was asked, what about Roy Hodgson.
John replied
'eh ehh ehh I think he has a good cv'. and nothing more.
Usually John is not stuck for words.
Before that he said (in his opinion) that Venables is far from being the FAI accepted candidate.
NeilMcD
27/11/2007, 1:50 PM
THat last commment gives me hope as Johnny is in the loop at the moment.
geysir
27/11/2007, 2:08 PM
He is in some loop no doubt.
But he did qualify his "in his opinion" by saying something like 'not that I have any special contact or privvy to FAI sources'
eekers
27/11/2007, 2:49 PM
having Pleat on board gives me some hope of hodgson.
I dont think pleat would be that much fan of Venables either (and thats because of the tottenham link)
OwlsFan
27/11/2007, 3:54 PM
having Pleat on board gives me some hope of hodgson.
I dont think pleat would be that much fan of Venables either (and thats because of the tottenham link)
Where does Pleat's name appear? A waffler par excellance so I think he might like Venables :mad:
eekers
27/11/2007, 3:58 PM
Where does Pleat's name appear? A waffler par excellance so I think he might like Venables :mad:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/delaneys-show-and-tel-the-key-to-future-1231067.html
And yet, Venables holds the high ground. Consider this: at today's meeting, the names of septuagenarians Bobby Robson and Don Howe, in addition to David Pleat, are set to be submitted as king-makers.i know Pleat is bluffer but he thinks himself cultured ,european and a student of the game. i can see him liking hodgson somehow
eirebhoy
27/11/2007, 5:38 PM
:D
Giles was asked about him this morning, it sounded like he hadn't a clue about Hodgson.
He didn't know who Santini was when Spurs appointed him either. Couldn't believe it.
Stuttgart88
28/11/2007, 9:59 AM
I've heard Hodgson linked with Derby (with Ince), Inter Milan as Technical Director and Australia. It'd beggar belief if he wasn't approached and interviewed.
DeNiro
28/11/2007, 10:15 AM
Is there anything negative about Hodgson at all? Can't understand how he's not top of the list. One thing that strikes me there is has he ever worked with young players. Jobs at Inter and Blackburn suggest not.
Spider Baby
28/11/2007, 10:29 AM
So Jewell has taken the Derby job, and McLeish has taken the Birmingham job. Two jobs that were possibles for Hodgson. Any updates on the Australia job??
Stuttgart88
28/11/2007, 10:34 AM
Is there anything negative about Hodgson at all? Can't understand how he's not top of the list. One thing that strikes me there is has he ever worked with young players. Jobs at Inter and Blackburn suggest not.Duff played under him at Blackburn I think (it was mentioned above).
My only conern is that our players didn't react well to a "measured" approach. I think they want a table-thumping old school guy because that's about all they know.
eekers
28/11/2007, 2:37 PM
So Jewell has taken the Derby job, and McLeish has taken the Birmingham job. Two jobs that were possibles for Hodgson. Any updates on the Australia job??
Venables wont be getting that one anyway. There was an inquiry after he left that job about the amount of money spent
eekers
28/11/2007, 5:49 PM
Hodgson has had no contact with the fai
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7117572.stm
Hodgson, who has also been linked with the vacant Republic of Ireland job, said he had had no contact with the FAI, the English Football Assocation or the Scottish FAthis bit is also an interesting comment on the process
"I don't have an agent or anyone touting my name around England.
"I've been very lucky in my career over the last 32 years in that jobs have found me rather than I have found them and I don't see any reason to change that."
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