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Poor Student
09/11/2007, 8:41 PM
All over in Tolka, Waterford drew 0-0. It's over in Terryland, a 2-1 defeat. We're officially safe.
have u ever been more dissapointed in staying up! shocking that there was only a points deduction that keeps us out of the playoffs
Schumi
09/11/2007, 8:46 PM
have u ever been more dissapointed in staying up!Just relief for the moment! Brutal last stretch of the season though.
only a points deduction that keeps us out of the playoffs**** yeah, hadn't noticed that. That's really poor.
Poor Student
09/11/2007, 8:50 PM
have u ever been more dissapointed in staying up! shocking that there was only a points deduction that keeps us out of the playoffs
Not just that but we had to rely on other teams to keep us out of it. It's baffling to think with the likes of Quigley, Kenna, McNally, Bermo, McFaul and Finn that we fell into such a position yet here we were.
DmanDmythDledge
09/11/2007, 11:22 PM
Not just that but we had to rely on other teams to keep us out of it. It's baffling to think with the likes of Quigley, Kenna, McNally, Bermo, McFaul and Finn that we fell into such a position yet here we were.
Half arsed performances, that why. Pete Mahon aiming for fourth, most of the players just aiming for survival- some contrast there. There'll be a few vacancies in the off-season- hopefully he'll stay around.
Poor Student
10/11/2007, 7:31 AM
You have to consider that it is in fact Pete Mahon who has failed to motivate our players. At his age he's not likely to be jumping ship elsewhere. Remember his wife wouldn't let him consider the Shels job.
CollegeTillIDie
10/11/2007, 8:28 AM
Excuse me but when I was trying to point these facts out that have suddenly dawned on everyone I was shouted down......
CollegeTillIDie
10/11/2007, 8:30 AM
You have to consider that it is in fact Pete Mahon who has failed to motivate our players. At his age he's not likely to be jumping ship elsewhere. Remember his wife wouldn't let him consider the Shels job.
A lot of the problem with the team is inability to concentrate .
Some of the younger players clearly don't have the concentration necessary to last 90 minutes plus stoppage time. Attention span of a gnat. That's the Playstation/ MTV generation for you I suppose!:o
DmanDmythDledge
10/11/2007, 10:19 AM
Excuse me but when I was trying to point these facts out that have suddenly dawned on everyone I was shouted down......
Your main point was that if we didn't reach such and such a target we would be doomed, completely ignoring the other teams around us. Seeing as we didn't reach your target are we now relegated?
One of your points was that a team needs 45 points to be safe- 45 points would have ensured a top six finish.
You thought that Steve Staunton was doing a better job that Pete Mahon on the basis that he has won 50% of the games he has managed.
You said "the whole viability of the enterprise is at stake here" as our crowds would suffer if we went down.
You said that Derry were weakened because they couldn't put their second choice keeper on the bench.
And that's only selected points from one thread.
Poor Student
10/11/2007, 12:48 PM
That's the Playstation/ MTV generation for you I suppose!:o
Uhm, the MTV generation was a good decade ago. We've had squads dominated by young players for quite some time, modern concentration issues are not the problem.
pineapple stu
10/11/2007, 3:21 PM
shocking that there was only a points deduction that keeps us out of the playoffs
Admittedly, if Longford had had their affairs in order, they wouldn't have had as strong a squad as they did and so would have been worse off than they were. Swings and roundabouts. But yeah, a very disappointing season. Although interesting to note that, at the end of it, we were only ten points off a top half finish!
Conor H
10/11/2007, 4:06 PM
Should have been 4-1 to us last night.
Ye were easily one of the worst teams to play in Terryland all season....not a patch on the team that came in May.
DmanDmythDledge
10/11/2007, 4:23 PM
Should have been 4-1 to us last night.
Wasn't at the game but heard that we were all over you for the last 20 minutes and should scored more than once. I think you seem to be taking a one sided view when looking at the chances that each team should have taken. Regardless I hate all this crap of should have been this, should have been that- there's a very good reason why players miss chances.
Paddyfield
10/11/2007, 10:02 PM
Wasn't at the game but heard that we were all over you for the last 20 minutes and should scored more than once. I think you seem to be taking a one sided view when looking at the chances that each team should have taken. Regardless I hate all this crap of should have been this, should have been that- there's a very good reason why players miss chances.
I kind of agree with both of ye. UCD had a lot of posession for the last quarter but GUFC missed a few sitters. Yes, there is a good reason why players miss chances but I don't know how Alan Murphy missed his golden opportunity to wrap the game up.
Sammon seemed to be very annoyed when he was taken off. What's the story? There must be other clubs sniffing around?
Also, how long has McDonell being with UCD? And are any of the cureent regular first teamers studying at UCD?
DmanDmythDledge
10/11/2007, 10:11 PM
Sammon seemed to be very annoyed when he was taken off. What's the story? There must be other clubs sniffing around?
Also, how long has McDonell being with UCD? And are any of the cureent regular first teamers studying at UCD?
Strong rumours that he has signed for Derry. Stoke and Leeds are watching him too.
Tony Mc has been playing for UCD for 14 years. Turned down trials in England to stay at UCD.
Only four from the current first team- Brian King, Ronan Finn, Evan McMillan and Fran Moran.
CollegeTillIDie
11/11/2007, 7:41 AM
Sammon scored 6 goals in 30 or so starts. Paul Byrne got 7 goals in a lot less. I know who I want at the club next season from that pair. Mr. Byrne...
CollegeTillIDie
11/11/2007, 7:43 AM
Your main point was that if we didn't reach such and such a target we would be doomed, completely ignoring the other teams around us. Seeing as we didn't reach your target are we now relegated?
One of your points was that a team needs 45 points to be safe- 45 points would have ensured a top six finish.
You thought that Steve Staunton was doing a better job that Pete Mahon on the basis that he has won 50% of the games he has managed.
You said "the whole viability of the enterprise is at stake here" as our crowds would suffer if we went down.
You said that Derry were weakened because they couldn't put their second choice keeper on the bench.
And that's only selected points from one thread.
Next season with three going down smart arse , you will need 45 points to be safe! Especially if they still keep the play off which could see 4th from bottom involved in that. Everybody outside the top six this past season was potentially in relegation danger at different points in the season.
You completely missed the whole thrust of the Stephen Staunton point. I was illustrating that Stephen Staunton's team who were playing sh1te had gained a higher percentage of points than UCD. Everyone was calling for Stan to go and rightly so, yet some of the self same people at this club's fan base seemed content with the team's showing all season.
31 points out of 99 is pathetic and unless we substantially improve that percentage next season... we're in the First Division in 2009.
pineapple stu
11/11/2007, 8:39 AM
Next season with three going down smart arse , you will need 45 points to be safe!
See, this is why people ignore your points. Sligo finished sixth this season on 41, yet you reckon we need 45 to finish ninth?
You completely missed the whole thrust of the Stephen Staunton point. I was illustrating that Stephen Staunton's team who were playing sh1te had gained a higher percentage of points than UCD.
Alas, you've completely missed the meaningless of your point. Stan got a low percentage against teams we should have been hammering. You can't compare Ireland losing to and drawing with San Marino to UCD losing to Galway or drawing with Bray.
Poor Student
11/11/2007, 11:48 AM
Strong rumours that he has signed for Derry.
There's not a chance of him going to Derry.
It's true Paul Byrne scored more goals this season but ideally we want them both in the team next year. Sammon is improving with every season and I'd love to finally see that partnership get off the ground.
CollegeTillIDie
11/11/2007, 2:49 PM
See, this is why people ignore your points. Sligo finished sixth this season on 41, yet you reckon we need 45 to finish ninth?
Alas, you've completely missed the meaningless of your point. Stan got a low percentage against teams we should have been hammering. You can't compare Ireland losing to and drawing with San Marino to UCD losing to Galway or drawing with Bray.
People don't ignore the points they attack them frequently. Being ignored would not necessitate this much effort. If a team is capable of beating Derry City and Drogheda United away, it should be able to pick up more points than 2 over 3 games against Galway , and should be able to pick more points than 3 or whatever we picked up against Bray over 3 games. Wouldn't you agree?
Oh and Ireland actually managed to pick up 6 points against San Marino, jammy shower of robbing b**tards that the boys in Green were in those two games. :D
On the points issue when there is 3 points available for a game you need to average 2 to be anyway successful and be in the top two , you need to average 1.5 points per game over the season to be safe in mid table. That means in NO DANGER at any stage of getting sucked into the bottom of the table issues. Anything from 1 point per game on down to the pathetically low percentage we managed and what Longford were left with after the points deduction and you are in trouble. End of .
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