Paul Jewell? [Archive] - Page 2

TheJamaicanP.M.

13/09/2007, 6:58 PM

Give it to Aldo..at least he's got some sort of track record in 1 off cup type games..hes good with the media..is passionate about Ireland..and knows how to get a team motivated. I'd have him in with Jewell.

Aldo and Jewell as joint managers? Would you trust 2 scousers?!:D

I've always liked George Burley. He did a decent job at both Ipswich and Hearts and I think he'd have a good understanding of Irish players.

rambler14

13/09/2007, 10:09 PM

Do not even mention Don Givens you'll only be giving the FAI ideas. He is a useless manager with a useless record.

Noelys Guitar

13/09/2007, 11:02 PM

I would be happy with Burley or Jewell. Either would have got us through to 2008.

Snoop Drog

13/09/2007, 11:02 PM

Just to throw another name into the hat...

Dick Advocaat's move to manage Australia apparently is not a done deal. He is not keen on being based Down Under and his Russian club are putting up a bit of a fight to keep him.

Surely he would be great for the job. Dunno if the $$$ would be right or if the ole ole heads could handle a former Rangers manager at the helm...

drinkfeckarse

14/09/2007, 8:12 AM

We have a ****in manager for gds sake, hate this xrap, its getting as bad as the english situation, before last saturday.

We have a poor manager Bellavistaman, that's the difference. p*** poor tacticly, p*** poor public relations, confusing squad selections and amateur excuses after poor results.

The best one ever was saying San Marino would cause teams problems and how they were no longer whipping boys after we scored a last minute winner. He must've thought we'd all miracously forgot that Germany went into double figures against them a few weeks earlier.

I could reel off at least a dozen of his decisions in squad selections that have left me scratching my head.

btid1

14/09/2007, 9:22 AM

This is all idle speculation as it seems the FAI and Stan are not going to part company anytime soon which is sad because it will inevitably lead to one of our greatest ever servants (Stan) getting a load of abuse from the fans at the next set of games.

That said my choice would most definetly be Paul Jewell.He is a man who has proven on a number of occassions that he can work with limited resources.Also he would not break the budget constraints I am sure the FAI are working under.He is also a manager who is quite comfortable with the media and would be quite a likeable character.

However I think the most important aspect of this is that I think he would take the job.His reasons for resigning from Wigan last season was that he had enough of the day to day pressures of being a Premiership manager so the less stressful world of international management would suit him perfectly.He is being held to his contract by Wigan currently so he would not be able to sign without some form of compensation but this may only apply to club management and not the international scene.Some investigation would be needed.

Again there is no point in even discussing this as those who make the decisions (ie John Delaney) have decided to sit on their hands a little bit longer.

antrimgreen

14/09/2007, 9:31 AM

Some one needs to sit on his head never mind him sitting on his hands. If the FAI were a proper company/business then the MD would be sacked for failure to hit targets and expectations. Stan must have some dirt on him up his sleeve.

Ozymandias

14/09/2007, 1:34 PM

RogerMilla

14/09/2007, 1:43 PM

would agree that paul jewell would be a great choice , i really rate him as a manager.

bennocelt

14/09/2007, 6:03 PM

1. Vogts in fairness took Scotland through a pretty bad patch and can be attributed with reworking the ideas of the Underage setup in Scotland.
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ah come off it, he was way out of his depth, even weh he was manager of Germany they couldnt wait to get rid of him

I would love to get Leo beenhakker (or however you spell his name)......doing wonders with Poland, and was excellent tactically with T and T in the last world cup................surely we can nick him off Poland after the euros

billybunter

14/09/2007, 6:20 PM

would agree that paul jewell would be a great choice , i really rate him as a manager.

who we really need is Paul Daniels.....

Newryrep

15/09/2007, 10:18 AM

ah come off it, he was way out of his depth, even weh he was manager of Germany they couldnt wait to get rid of him

I would love to get Leo beenhakker (or however you spell his name)......doing wonders with Poland, and was excellent tactically with T and T in the last world cup................surely we can nick him off Poland after the euros

Did he not win the European Championship with Germany in their old enemy's back yard beating them in the semis's. German managers are expected to win European Championships/World Cups - i would imagine there is more pressure of expectation. Scotland didnt work out for varoius reasons

Certainly wouldnt be adverse to a respected foreign manager/coach ,if available and willing

bennocelt

16/09/2007, 8:24 AM

Did he not win the European Championship with Germany in their old enemy's back yard beating them in the semis's. German managers are expected to win European Championships/World Cups - i would imagine there is more pressure of expectation. Scotland didnt work out for varoius reasons

Certainly wouldnt be adverse to a respected foreign manager/coach ,if available and willing

yeah he did, despite himself
upto that point every German manager had won at least one trophy, so he was under intense pressure, but having Sammer, mattheus, and a solid german team in a poor tournament it wasnt the hardest trophy to win, and the Czechs were unlucky not to win it themselves

Paul Jeweel would probably take the bolton job since i reckon it will be up for grabs soon enough

Scram

16/09/2007, 8:28 AM

Paddy Power have David O'Leary as favourite according to Newstalk

I would rather leave Stan in charge!! O'Leary proved his uselessness with 100 million plus, what wil he do with a squad he can't spend money to add to, a waster full of excuses and a manipulator. Please no.

shamrock17

16/09/2007, 8:44 AM

Irish_Praha

16/09/2007, 9:06 AM

If you want a manager with passion no nonsense and a great motivator that dont give you loads of bull! then you wouldnt go far wrong with NEIL WARNOCK!! i recon he could get the best out of the players and tell them straight if they played s*"t! and wouldnt be affraid to drop the stars if they werent doing it for us!
anyone with me on this then???

I can't stand the man but he would be an improvement on Stan and he has the appropriate experience of getting some success on a low budget. I don't agree with the "don't give you loads of bull" statement though, he has come out with his fair share of bull over the years :)

My choice would be Mike Newell. I'd also take McCarthy back in a shot now that the whole Saipan thing has settled down. However, there would probably still be sections of the media that would slate him if he got a bad result and there would be a compensation issue too. Wolves wouldn't let him go so easily. Maybe get rid of Stan now and take Mick on for the last 3 games of the campaign and see how the media, players and fans warm to him. If it's successful offer him a contract for the WC qualifiers.

Poor Student

16/09/2007, 9:32 AM

Superhoops

16/09/2007, 11:02 AM

I can't stand the man but he would be an improvement on Stan and he has the appropriate experience of getting some success on a low budget. I don't agree with the "don't give you loads of bull" statement though, he has come out with his fair share of bull over the years :)

My choice would be Mike Newell. I'd also take McCarthy back in a shot now that the whole Saipan thing has settled down. However, there would probably still be sections of the media that would slate him if he got a bad result and there would be a compensation issue too. Wolves wouldn't let him go so easily. Maybe get rid of Stan now and take Mick on for the last 3 games of the campaign and see how the media, players and fans warm to him. If it's successful offer him a contract for the WC qualifiers.

Why the f**k would McCarthy give up his job at Wolves on the chance that he may be offered a new contract by the FAI if he was successful in three games and if the media and the fans warmed to him. :confused:

The most ridiculous suggestion I have ever come accross. :eek:

carloz

16/09/2007, 11:47 AM

Didnt Jewell quit Wigan because of health and family reasons. I think the strain of Premiership management was really getting to him and he didnt look a well man at the end of last season. I think he would jump at the chance of managing us and i think it would be excellent for all concerned

waide

16/09/2007, 12:29 PM

Martin o'neil anyone ?

Although good managers are hard to come by i think it would be a mistake to appoint an unproven manager at international level.Getting the best out of ordinary players at Leicester and Celtic hardly Qualifies martin to lead Ireland to the world cup finals.It can't be a coincidence that none of the top teams have ever approached him.

Irish_Praha

16/09/2007, 12:53 PM

Why the f**k would McCarthy give up his job at Wolves on the chance that he may be offered a new contract by the FAI if he was successful in three games and if the media and the fans warmed to him. :confused:

The most ridiculous suggestion I have ever come accross. :eek:

Sorry I didnt make my point 100% clear. I didnt mean for him to give up his job at Wolves but to just come in as cover for our last 3 games, when we look for a long term replacement but with an open mind on offering him the job if it works out well. It's not going to happen but he did say he would like to manage Ireland again after a few years in the English league.

Anyway I would prefer someone like Newell and wouldn't be opposed to Paul Jewell either and that would be more likely because they are both free agents.

Stuttgart88

16/09/2007, 1:17 PM

Although good managers are hard to come by i think it would be a mistake to appoint an unproven manager at international level.Getting the best out of ordinary players at Leicester and Celtic hardly Qualifies martin to lead Ireland to the world cup finals.It can't be a coincidence that none of the top teams have ever approached him.
Surely getting the best out of ordianry players is exactly what's required?

MON is tied up at Villa now. He's got backing and he's building a team of young British players (in the main) and is being allowed time for his ideas to take shape. No chnace he'd even consider it.

Jewell is credible and I think the point about stress above means that maybe he'd consider it. Plenty of upside - if he's a proven success the England job could be his. I don't know that much about him. He seems to have done well with limited resources but at same time his "successes" have really been all about avoiding relegation, no? OK, Carling Cup final, one good league campaign too I suppose.

Warnock, please God no. Absolutely reprehensible character.

Martin Jol may be out of work soon. We'd have Chris Hughton back as no. 2. To this day I think he has been very lucky to escape the flak that Kerr took.

The package shouldn't be a deal breaker. Offer a big cash bonus upon qualification. That's how it works in industry. Salary plus bonus if targets are met.

Newell would be too much of a maverick for the FAI I reckon.

Superhoops

16/09/2007, 6:21 PM

Surely getting the best out of ordianry players is exactly what's required?

MON is tied up at Villa now. He's got backing and he's building a team of young British players (in the main) and is being allowed time for his ideas to take shape. No chnace he'd even consider it.

Jewell is credible and I think the point about stress above means that maybe he'd consider it. Plenty of upside - if he's a proven success the England job could be his. I don't know that much about him. He seems to have done well with limited resources but at same time his "successes" have really been all about avoiding relegation, no? OK, Carling Cup final, one good league campaign too I suppose.

Warnock, please God no. Absolutely reprehensible character.

Martin Jol may be out of work soon. We'd have Chris Hughton back as no. 2. To this day I think he has been very lucky to escape the flak that Kerr took.

The package shouldn't be a deal breaker. Offer a big cash bonus upon qualification. That's how it works in industry. Salary plus bonus if targets are met.

Newell would be too much of a maverick for the FAI I reckon.

So who, realistically, are you suggesting?

SUB of the day

16/09/2007, 7:49 PM

Works for me, his p45 is imminent, but I'm sure he would laugh at the salary.Good point in todays paper,ie Stan is on 500,000 a year, but if he walked or was pushed would even an EL club consider employing him? eh NO CHANCE!

shakermaker1982

16/09/2007, 8:28 PM

Warnock??? Please God no. Same goes for O'Leary. I'd rather keep Stan. I'd love us to go down the Jewell/Jol route but I imagine they'd probably rather be tortured than try and pull rabbits out of hats with our squad of players. John Aldridge would be crazy enough to take it on but is he good enough? Decent stint at Tranmere for a while but top class international football shows no mercy - just ask Stan!!!!

Morbo

16/09/2007, 8:39 PM

John Aldridge wouldn't be the worst choice in the world but I'd much prefer Jewell or even giving McCarthy a 2nd shot, really hoping it isn't someone like Warnock ,Don Givens or O'Leary, unfortunately O'Leary is the fav at 2-1

shakermaker1982

16/09/2007, 8:40 PM

can anybody remember all the applicants for the job last time round? Did Bryan Robson get an interview?

Stuttgart88

17/09/2007, 7:37 AM

So who, realistically, are you suggesting?
Well, in the same post I said that Jewell was credible and put forward Jol's name.

I think O'Leary is a credible candidate too, though I've gone right off him as a person in the last 7 or 8 years. By all accounts it's a disharmonious dressing room and I'm not sure DOL would do anything to improve it.

Scram

17/09/2007, 7:46 AM

I think we should seek a Bora Milutinovic/Phillipe Troussier/Guus Hiddink type World Cup specialist, someone who has gotten the job done on several occasions and has the knack of the international game.

And, we could have had Troussier for about �50k more that Stan and Robson. FAI wan!<ers.

Superhoops

17/09/2007, 12:35 PM

And, we could have had Troussier for about �50k more that Stan and Robson. FAI wan!<ers.

Where does that information come from?

I thought I read something where Troussier and his wife converted to Islam, isn't he now called Omar?, and only wanted to work and live in a Muslim country. I think this happended around the time that Staunton was appointed. I may be wrong. :confused:

biscuit

17/09/2007, 12:49 PM

Where does that information come from?

I thought I read something where Troussier and his wife converted to Islam, isn't he now called Omar?, and only wanted to work and live in a Muslim country. I think this happended around the time that Staunton was appointed. I may be wrong. :confused:

Bit drastic, but I would probably have done the same if delaney came knocking on my door, looking for me to work for him!!:D

Thomo

17/09/2007, 1:09 PM

its all speculation for now anyways, because to be honest, owing to compensation issues, and to put it bluntly, fai stubborness, stan is going nowhere methinks. he'll get at least one more campaign, unless we lose by huge margins in the last 3 qualifiers.

ofjames

17/09/2007, 2:36 PM

Stan was the first, and only person interviewed last time out.

All other scheduled interviews were cancelled after Stan's apparent earthshattering performance in his audition for the job.

Complete farce. Frank Stapelton was one who had an interview scheduled only to be rang to say it was cancelled, and subsequently had a good auld public rant at the FAI for it

Stuttgart88

17/09/2007, 2:42 PM

Not to mention all the hot air about using an international headhunting / search firm.

When Delaney was asked if he had even contacted Martin O'Neill, as far as I can remember he responded by saying Mickey Walsh had spoken to a friend of O'Neill's.

OwlsFan

17/09/2007, 4:19 PM

Is this the same Martin O'Neill who signed Shaun Maloney from Celtic? Good judge of a player, ok :p

Actually, I would have liked O'Neill as a manager but he didn't apply for the job it would appear. In fact did anyone other than Stan make a serious application?

Stuttgart88

17/09/2007, 4:22 PM

I'm only surprised you haven't commented on the Neil Warnock suggestion yet!

OwlsFan

17/09/2007, 4:28 PM

I'm only surprised you haven't commented on the Neil Warnock suggestion yet!

:eek: Didn't see that one :D Poor Neil. Resigned as Sheff U manager and thought a host of clubs would come in for him. Must be tired waiting by that phone.

I am waiting for Jebus to suggest Trevor Francis

NeilMcD

17/09/2007, 5:29 PM

For me its simple Leo Baenhaaker. He has coached top players and has coached average players and done well with both. He has worked at Madrid Holland Trinindad and Tobago and now Poland. He would not be expensive as there is no way the Polish FA have more money than the FAI. He also speaks English and his record is top class. We should ask him to take the job after Euro 2008. Simple as that.

NeilMcD

17/09/2007, 5:34 PM

From Wikipedia.

Leo Beenhakker (born August 2, 1942 in Rotterdam, Zuid-Holland) is an international Dutch football coach, currently the coach of the Polish national team.

He has been the coach of several prestigious clubs including Ajax, Feyenoord, Real Madrid, Real Zaragoza and Club Am�rica. He has also coached the Saudi Arabian and Dutch national teams. He coached the national team of Trinidad and Tobago in the year leading up to the 2006 FIFA World Cup. Under Beenhakker's guidance the team managed to qualify for the 2006 World Cup, where the team secured a (goalless) draw against Sweden in its first match of the 2006 FIFA World Cup, and gave England cause for concern in the second match.

From 2000 to 2003 Beenhakker was Director of Technical Affairs with Ajax. In that period he fired coach Co Adriaanse and replaced him with Ronald Koeman.

Because he has been active in Spanish football he has the nickname "Don Leo". He is famous for his fondness of cigars and his dry humor.

On 11 July 2006 Leo Beenhakker was appointed as the manager of the Polish national football team.

Feyenoord hired him on 5 May 2007 to coach the team through the 2006/2007 play-offs.

He reportedly speaks Dutch, English, German, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish

soccerc

17/09/2007, 5:59 PM

I'm only surprised you haven't commented on the Neil Warnock suggestion yet!

In a conversation last week with a former international I suggested Warnock as a replacement. His immediate reaction was a look of horror but as his merits were discussed the guy agreed that it could work. Experience and discipline at least. :D

Stuttgart88

18/09/2007, 7:37 AM

You just want Stephen Quinn fast-tracked for your Gazette exclusive.

Wolfie

18/09/2007, 12:52 PM

In a conversation last week with a former international I suggested Warnock as a replacement. His immediate reaction was a look of horror but as his merits were discussed the guy agreed that it could work. Experience and discipline at least. :D

Always thought Warnock - or Crow Face as I've heard him called - had a bit of a persecution complex. It was always the refs fault, the pitch, the shadowy forces of evil hell bent on ruining his life.

No mention of Stuart Pearce as a contender yet..................is he England Under 21's coach at the minute?

Stuttgart88

18/09/2007, 12:55 PM

Yes, he was offered the job full time after this year's euro champs I think. He definitely would not have been an answer for us.

A pundit I always respect is David Pleat. He could have filled the gap left by Robson's absences.

tetsujin1979

18/09/2007, 12:59 PM

No mention of Stuart Pearce as a contender yet..................is he England Under 21's coach at the minute?

Yeah, and he's full time since the Under 21 Championships in the summer.
Don't think I'd have him as manager just yet, undoubted passion for the game but I think he needs more experience

Wolfie

18/09/2007, 1:06 PM

Yeah, and he's full time since the Under 21 Championships in the summer.
Don't think I'd have him as manager just yet, undoubted passion for the game but I think he needs more experience

True - I think we've all had enough of managerial rookies at this stage.

Plastic Paddy

18/09/2007, 1:57 PM

Always thought Warnock - or Crow Face as I've heard him called - had a bit of a persecution complex. It was always the refs fault, the pitch, the shadowy forces of evil hell bent on ruining his life.

'Colin W*nker' is my favourite Warnock alter ego. It's a perfect anagram of his name and fits his public character to a tee. I'd rather me manage Ireland than have him anywhere near the team.

Leo Beenhakker is an excellent shout so kudos to you Neil. :) It'll never happen though...

:ball: PP

OwlsFan

18/09/2007, 2:06 PM

A pundit I always respect is David Pleat. He could have filled the gap left by Robson's absences.

Is this another wind up? Warnock, Jewell and Pleat? The latter almost single-handedly led the Owls to oblivion (but talks the talk), the middle one was aptly described by Wolfie and hates Wednesday while the former led Wednesday on a charge to relegation. Ok, Jack Charlton, Ireland's most successful manager, was also a successful Wednesday manager but note the word "successful".

If you want to continue the Wednesday link, Ron Atkinson I would gladly support as the next Irish manager. If he's in good health, I think he would do a good job.