Maddy McCann

[NY Hoop]

More fun still getting a rise out of Shams fans every time I refer to their club.

Do whatever you can to amuse yourself. You're obviously from the country to use that moniker.

Anyway away from ignorant fans who dont even know their rivals' names a boez fan tells me that the aforementioned poster is at every one of their home games????


KOH

[BohsPartisan]

Anyway away from ignorant fans who dont even know their rivals' names a boez fan tells me that the aforementioned poster is at every one of their home games????


KOH

I saw it for the first time at the Pats game and we haven't had a home game since then.

[Dodge]

Anyway away from ignorant fans who dont even know their rivals' names a boez fan

:D

Nice try Shamrock fan

[NY Hoop]

:D

Nice try Shamrock fan

Well spotted SPA.


KOH

[Dodge]

Well spotted SPA.
Just for the record I am not the club. I am, of course, a SPA fan.

Now, back on topic. Can anyone tell me if there have been any developments at all in the last 3 weeks?

[DmanDmythDledge]

Now, back on topic. Can anyone tell me if there have been any developments at all in the last 3 weeks?
A DNA sample was found in the apartment which did not match any of the McCann's at the beginning of the month.

Some Dutch newspaper received a letter stating where her body was buried but after a search of that area it was abandoned.

[Dodge]

Got the dutch 'paper thing.

Didn't hear the DNA bit

[Lionel Ritchie]

A DNA sample was found in the apartment which did not match any of the McCann's at the beginning of the month.

Some Dutch newspaper received a letter stating where her body was buried but after a search of that area it was abandoned.

It was a rented appartment was it not? I'd be surprised if there wasn't a plethora of DNA samples to be found in it.

The letter to the dutch newspaper was apparently one of several from "empaths", "seers", "seventh sons" and a host of other assorted chancers looking to make a buck and a rep for themselves out of their "gift" or from somone elses misery.

That there hasn't been a whole lot more of them is probably down to the Portugese cops saying that anyone profering such information will, quite rightly I think, be treated as a suspect until eveidence rules them out.

[DmanDmythDledge]

It was a rented appartment was it not? I'd be surprised if there wasn't a plethora of DNA samples to be found in it.

Here's (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6677507,00.html) the article which says that it was DNA of a sixth person, so only six samples were found allegedly.

[Macy]

No, people I saw hanging it up at the Pats game (I think one of the two blokes was a scouser) were not familiar faces. No idea who your man is tbh.


I was waiting for it! I just new that somehow, someone would try and drag us into this debate
He wasn't a scouser, he was a National Front infiltrator...

[BohsPartisan]

He wasn't a scouser, he was a National Front infiltrator...

POTM! :D

[reder]

AFAIK he is. He's just living over here.

Correct, have been for the past 15 years but I am a Liverpudlian. For the record, Bohs are the last team on the planet I would go and see.

This DNA story is silly. Imagine the amount of people who have visited that apartment over the past 6 months. I presumed she was abducted?? outside the apartment anyway.

[BohsPartisan]

Correct, have been for the past 15 years but I am a Liverpudlian. For the record, Bohs are the last team on the planet I would go and see.


So you hate us more than you hate Everton and Man U?

Is it something I said? :D

[reder]

So you hate us more than you hate Everton and Man U?

Is it because of me? :D

No, I hate the mancs and bitter cos I was born and bred that way. Its in my blood.

Bohs are more annoying and are too insignificant to warrant hate.

Can we onto the main topic in the thread now?

[Dodge]

BTW I was asking out of curiosity. It may explain why you're more attached to this story than some. I@d probably have more interest if the girl was from Dublin...

[reder]

BTW I was asking out of curiosity. It may explain why you're more attached to this story than some. I@d probably have more interest if the girl was from Dublin...

Very true.

[Boh_So_Good]

Somebody said to me the other night that the reason why the Irish were obsessed with Maddy McCann is the same reason the were obsessed with Holly and Jessica. - in that the most common photos of them in the Irish media they were wearing premiserships jerseys. (Chelsea and Man U) and this is to the Paddys made the crime so much more profound and meaningful. It got me thinking and maybe I am being insensitve. But if it was a photo of a chubby Irish girl wearing an Eircom League club jersey would the Paddys care as much. Would RTE and TV3 work for them as their personal PR outlets?

Lo and Behold look what's in the Onion on a similar theme and as tasteless as this is, there is a hell of a lot of truth to it as well.


Ugly Girl Killed
Nation Unshaken By Not-So-Tragic Death

CASPER, WY—The people of America remained unmoved Monday as the sparse, barely attended funeral procession of Edith Pelphrey made its way to Pinelawn Cemetery in downtown Casper.

The recent murder of clumsy, unattractive, 6-year-old Edith Pelphrey, pictured above in happier times, has not sent shockwaves of grief and despair rippling through the nation.

Edith, a homely six-year-old with thick glasses and a decidedly non-winning smile, was laid to rest largely as she had lived—unnoticed by the general population.

Discovered strangled with a length of nylon cord on Jan. 4, reported to the police Jan. 15, and finally investigated two days ago, the story of unattractive little Edith and her savage killing has failed to tug at America's heartstrings.

To the few who knew her, Edith was an unattractive, awkward little girl who failed to stand out among her first-grade classmates at Jefferson Elementary School. And it is this lack of social grace, more than anything, that makes her all-too-brief life—and its all-too-brief ending—all the more not-compelling and non-poignant in the eyes of a city and a nation.

The normally lively streets of Casper were quiet today. Not because the city was mourning a loss that had shaken it to its core, but because of the capacity crowds attending this weekend's 1997 "Li'l Miss Casper" pre-teen beauty pageant, a contest that Edith, had she lived, surely could never have entered, let alone won.

Edith's death—so sudden, so unremarkable—has not sent shockwaves of grief and despair rippling across the land.

"The American people face bold new challenges in the 21st century," President Clinton said Monday in an unrelated speech which made no mention of the incident. "We will rise to meet these challenges together."

Said Time magazine editor Richard Turner, "I want to stress that we have no intention of featuring Edith Pelphrey on the cover of Time."

"Neither will we," concurred People magazine's Kathie Holcomb. "There's just no sell."

But who was Edith? What was she going through as she neared the end? In these modern times, do we as Americans even care about such questions? The answer is clear, and it is: no, we do not. But now, after what little tears there were have long fallen, lingering questions about Edith's murder remain, failing to elicit anything beyond indifference from anyone.

"I was just going to the bookstore," said Casper resident Dan Vermeer, 24, moments after learning of Edith's death. "After that I'm supposed to meet a friend at a coffee shop."

"Hey, look at this!" a visibly agitated Rev. Geoff Noyes, of Casper's First Methodist Church, said to MaryAnn, his wife of 43 years. "They're having a sale at Safeway! Look at those tuna discounts."

These Casper residents, like millions of people across the nation, will not form any sort of activist group or mobilize to find Edith's killer; launch any sort of posthumous tribute; order any flower arrangement; or sing moving hymns in her memory. Neither, for that matter, will they ever know who she was, nor would they care to.

Why was she found strangled in her own home? There was a ransom note found with the body, but no kidnappers or, for that matter, evidence of any kidnapping at all. Could it be that the murderer was actually someone from the Pelphrey family itself? By and large, nobody could care less.

"I told you already that I have no idea what you're talking about, sir. If you keep calling here I'll have you fined," Casper chief of police Wayne Daugherty told reporters.

It's obvious that Edith, too homely to give a second thought about in life, is even less likely to attract anyone's attention now that she has been laid to eternal rest.

"I feel deeply, with every ounce of my soul, that something must be done to ensure the public that no matter what happens in the future, this night will not be forgotten, and that the Li'l Miss Casper Beauty Pageant will continue to inspire us all," Casper Mayor Roger DiNizio said, addressing an assembled crowd of 11,000.

Upon the completion of DiNizio's remarks, the pageant audience—decked out in their finest for the occasion—cheered, rising from their seats in a spontaneous standing ovation.

[Block G Raptor]

As a father of a four year old girl with a more than passing likeness to maddie, I disagree with the whole sky news are brainwashing us line that people on here are spewing. I dont watch sky news at all or read british red tops but there hasn't been a day goes by that I haven't thought of that little girl somewhere out there

[Lionel Ritchie]

As a father of a four year old girl with a more than passing likeness to maddie, I disagree with the whole sky news are brainwashing us line that people on here are spewing. I dont watch sky news at all or read british red tops but there hasn't been a day goes by that I haven't thought of that little girl somewhere out there

...but on the other hand, and I genuinely don't mean to alarm you, a cousin of mine has a four year old who bears a passing likeness, just a bare passing likeness mind, to Maddie -and she's afraid to take her kid grocery shopping (or more to the point let her husband take her shopping) in case some crazed loon or other confronts them and starts screaming they've found Madeleine!

[Erstwhile Bóz]

...the Onion on a similar theme...
Right on the money.

That kind of reportage, even in serious papers, of the supposed beauty or attractiveness of, say, a car crash victim with the implication that this makes the death somehow more tragic drives me nuts.

There was a road death of a young mother in a pile-up in, I think, South Dublin, a while ago that was completely tragic. Mother of a three- or four-year-old kid and all, had just dropped her to school and was off to work. Sickeningly unfortunate chain of events leading to the fatal collision; a sad, sad story that had you raging at the unfairness and feeling pretty devastated for that poor child.

But almost every single f*cking article, gilding this morbid lily, mentioned the "pretty face looking out of the picture" and even the better newspapers carried interviews with her bereaved sister who kept going on about how good-looking she was and she wanted the public to see how gorgeous she was so that they would understand how upset the family were! It was ridiculous. Her young kid was orphaned but we were meant to be sad because she was pretty.

Your man the plumber/?electrician who was shot dead because he was in the same house as that sleeping drug dealer had started up a football team out of an innocent love of sport and in an effort to try and keep the kids in his flats busy and out of trouble and, indirectly, off the very gear that the scummy likes of the other fellow were peddling onto them. That's human interest; it was harrowingly poignant. Did anybody think to themselves, "Hang on, I wonder if this young fellow was a ride? I must keep some sympathy in reserve in case he turns out to have been handsome."

[Dodge]

great line in the film speed when one of the hostages pleads to be allowed off "PLease I'm a mother of two"
"So I'm disposable becomes I'm single!"

[Erstwhile Bóz]

:D Speed told us so much about ourselves as a society.

[Dodge]

Its a modern day bible

[Boh_So_Good]

Did anybody think to themselves, "Hang on, I wonder if this young fellow was a ride? I must keep some sympathy in reserve in case he turns out to have been handsome."

The only public figure who seemed genuinely sicken and outraged by the murder of this young lad was Micheal McDowell. The same guy who was jeered out of the RDS by Boyd-Barrett's 'Poshies-with-Platitudes' and former Sinn Fein terrorists. Oh and the media who danced on his political grave for not being socialist enough for their armchairs in Dalkey or whereever the front line is these days.

Back to the topic. Look at the easy ride the McCann's are getting from the UK and Irish media compared to "usless Scouse scallies" which all the parents in the Jamie Bulger case got.

Even the Bulger mother who took her off eyes her son for a few seconds in a crowded shopping centre had to deal with articles along the lines of "well, you can never been too careful with your children!" by the same media whores who can't be arsed asking the McCann's why they didn't hire a babysitter and consider them model parents.

Did anybody see the Annie-like panto for the MCCanns on Grafton Street today? Creepy.

[BohsPartisan]

Ah yes, just when you were getting sensible you had to bring the "Pro-Socialist" Irish media into this. :rolleyes:

[cavan_fan]

There's a finite amount of sympathy to give and that child is getting an undue amount.


Is there really? How much, I just wonder because it suggests if there was a flood in Mayo people wouldnt have room to care about a fire in Cork, maybe we need someone to ration it for us and tell us what to care about.

Look they've lost their kid and are masterfully playing the media worldwide to keep everyone looking for her. Fair play to them I say.

[BohsPartisan]

Is there really? How much, I just wonder because it suggests if there was a flood in Mayo people wouldnt have room to care about a fire in Cork, maybe we need someone to ration it for us and tell us what to care about.

Look they've lost their kid and are masterfully playing the media worldwide to keep everyone looking for her. Fair play to them I say.

So you're keeping up to date on the aftermath of the Asian Tsunami and the Pakistani earthquake?

[cavan_fan]

And the famine because we've all forgotten that.

[BohsPartisan]

And the famine because we've all forgotten that.

Which one?

[Boh_So_Good]

Money for everything except babysitters and/or private investigators...



http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=132384&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232710&home=yes&more_nodeId1=132393&contentPK=17781869

MCCANN FUND 'TO TOP £1M'
BY TOM MACK
10:30 - 09 July 2007

The fund set up to find missing Madeleine McCann looks set to reach the £1million mark this month, her family said.

So far, people have donated more than £901,000 towards the search for the missing Rothley four-year-old.

With events taking place around the world this month, the figure is expected to top £1million within weeks.

Money raised is being used to help find Madeleine and bring her abductors to justice, paying for lawyers, flights and other expenses. Any funds left over will be used to help the cases of other missing children.

Madeleine was snatched from her parents' holiday apartment in Praia Da Luz, on the Algarve, southern Portugal, two months ago.

Brian Kennedy, Madeleine's great-uncle, told the Mercury: "The fund has gone up quite a bit in recent days.

"We are now beginning to pay out and there are some fairly large bills for expenses, such as legal fees for the lawyers who have been involved since the beginning."

News of the fund comes as the police in Portugal may be about to stage a series of arrests.

The Daily Express reports today that police are close to a breakthrough in the case.

The paper quotes a Portuguese police source saying detectives are to swoop on several new suspects in the coming week.

The Leicester Mercury has bought 50,000 green and yellow wristbands to sell for the fund. Every penny from the sale of the bands goes to the Find Madeleine fund.

Later this week, the wristbands will go on sale at East Midlands Airport so that holidaymakers can show their support for the McCann family.

Wearing the wristbands abroad will also help to spread the message about Madeleine's disappearance.

The wristbands will be on sale at the airport information desk and at some shops.

A spokeswoman said: "We're very happy to be involved with the Madeleine McCann campaign and want to do anything we can do to help bring her back to her family.

"The wristbands are an effective part of the larger campaign because they raise money and also raise awareness of the appeal to find Madeleine."

The first delivery of wristbands will arrive at the airport on Wednesday, along with 20 collection boxes and posters appealing for help in finding the four-year-old.

[Boh_So_Good]

A news reporter reprimanded for telling the truth.



He said the conduct of Maddie’s parents, who were having dinner in a nearby restaurant when she was taken 67 days ago in Praia da Luz, Portugal, was “a contributory factor in the abduction”.

A Channel 4 News spokesman said Thomson has been reprimanded.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007310498,00.html

[John83]

A news reporter reprimanded for telling the truth.
:eek::rolleyes:

[Macy]

Interesting developments over the last couple of days. I think the most telling is the way the UK news media has totally backed off and no longer following the McCann line. More coverage on RTE News yesterday than either Sky News or BBC News 24 - maybe they're now realising they should've been more objective from the start.

[RogerMilla]

Interesting developments over the last couple of days. I think the most telling is the way the UK news media has totally backed off and no longer following the McCann line. More coverage on RTE News yesterday than either Sky News or BBC News 24 - maybe they're now realising they should've been more objective from the start.

what has been going on macy? i see they went back to murats house with the english cops but that was all i picked up .

[drinkfeckarse]

British sniffer dogs have found specks of blood on the wall which showed up under ultra violet light and reports suggest that someone may have attempted to clean it. The police now suggest that their line of enquiries may concentrate on Maddy being killed in the room.

The obvious question is how the Portuguese police missed this. It reflects terribly on their whole operation and shows how inept they have been.

I get the feeling that reporters have the question of "did the McCanns murder her?" bubbling away under the surface but considering it is a holiday apartment and hundreds of people will have stayed there over the years, I personally doubt it.

They are currently testing the blood for DNA but I doubt it will lead anywhere. What gets me in this case also is the reported sightings. I mean the one last week in Belgium was apparently taken very seriously but why didn't the woman phone the police at the time instead of reporting it later?

Surely if you were sure it was her you would phone the police there and then?

[Macy]

what has been going on macy? i see they went back to murats house with the english cops but that was all i picked up .
Yer man is virtually in the in the clear at this stage. It was bs in the first place if you ask me - he was brought in initially on the basis of hacks saying he was being too helpful, coincidentally just when the story was dying down the first time. I think he/ his legal rep requested being an official suspect as it gets you more rights than just "helping them with their enquiries".

Blood spatter apparently found on the walls, yet to be confirmed. Abduction doesn't seem as likely as it did, certainly not that she was taken alive. Like I said, the UK media have totally stepped back from the pro-McCann line they've taken which resulted in reprimands for people daring to question them or their story - it wasn't even one of the lead stories. Considering the previous wall to wall coverage, and the line the media took, it'd make you suspicious about they know.

Drinkfeckarse - like or loath them (and there's plenty of reason to loath them) the UK cops are one of the top forces at forensics afaik. Thought the possible Belgian sighting the couple legged it when they spotted them calling the cops?

[the 12 th man]

RE the Belgian sighting-

I think they are awaiting DNA tests on the bottle that the child drank out of ?

Some other guy -Irish chap living in Portugal ( in paper-yesterday) has come forward to say he saw someone with a child over their shoulder on the night in question- this is now 100+ days after the event:confused:

[drinkfeckarse]

Thought the possible Belgian sighting the couple legged it when they spotted them calling the cops?

Didn't know that Macy. If true it adds weight to the theory that she is still alive. Why else would they run?

[alansmithccfc]

Didn't know that Macy. If true it adds weight to the theory that she is still alive. Why else would they run?

Becasue they thought they might of been arrested :confused:

[Lionel Ritchie]

Drinkfeckarse - like or loath them (and there's plenty of reason to loath them) the UK cops are one of the top forces at forensics afaik. Thought the possible Belgian sighting the couple legged it when they spotted them calling the cops?

I might've too. Pointed out a while back I've a cousin who is near the same age and bears little more than a passing resemblance to the misfortunate McCann child. Now while I haven't spoken to her parents in a month or more -last time we did speak they were afraid to take their daughter into town, into a shopping center or wherever (especially the Da!) for fear some hyped up NOTW reader'll drop his/her shopping bags, point a finger and start screaming at them. Spooky stuff.

[bellavistaman]

well its not her DNa anyway, oity would be great if they had something to move the investigation in a good way. I reckon if the blood in the apartment is hers, then theres some serious questions need to be asked to the parents. This really is a very sad story. Ridiculous how anybody could take a child/childs life from them.

[drinkfeckarse]

Becasue they thought they might of been arrested :confused:


Oh of course, they see someone across the road on the phone and they decide to run as they automatically know it's the police they're on to and that it might be in connection to a girl that's gone missing. I'd love to be able to read someone's mind like that.

[Dodge]

Oh of course, they see someone across the road on the phone and they decide to run as they automatically know it's the police they're on to and that it might be in connection to a girl that's gone missing. I'd love to be able to read someone's mind like that.

Who says they ran? They might've just upped and left as a coincidence. AFAIK the adult was finished and the child was half finished. Hardly unusual?

[John83]

...this is now 100+ days after the event:confused:
I thought SKY mentioned a figure in the 90s yesterday. I thought it was quite strange the way they put it; something like "It's now day 96 of the Maddy McCann ordeal" or something. I loathe that channel.


...Like I said, the UK media have totally stepped back from the pro-McCann line they've taken which resulted in reprimands for people daring to question them or their story - it wasn't even one of the lead stories. Considering the previous wall to wall coverage, and the line the media took, it'd make you suspicious about they know.
I'd be rather more cynical - they know people are sick of the story, so they don't bother pushing it as hard.

[Den Perry]

I dunno. I think the whole "Cult of Maddy" stuff is getting just weird. That child's face has taken on the role of a religious icon to some people.

The whole hype surrounding this child has become rather tasteless I feel. I know one is not meant to say this, but her parents need to answer some questions themselves and this is what people should be highlighting. Like why they left three babies alone in foreign country. There is also the weird money circus surrounding it such as them hiring PR people and uncles and so on giving up their jobs so they work for the Maddy fund (well at least now the McCann's can afford a babysitter I guess?). The mother seems to spend more time smiling for the cameras - personally my missues would be in bits with greif - I suspect most would be. That whole Birthday Party with mother smiling and waving to the camera was just odd. Also, I have to wonder if they were a pair of Skangers/Chavs would they be getting such an easy ride from the media for leaving three kids alone?

Holding up the banner at the Bohs match just plays into this whole media circus. Of course we all want the child found alive and well. But that gesture at United Park tonight was very poorly thought out and I suspect just done by people very easily controlled by the media and hype. Although I accept that their hearts were probably in the right place. But ultimately, you do not have to prove so publically your sense of humanity and empathy by joining a weird new British tabloid media religion and waving the icon to prove what a "daycent oul skin" you are anymore than holding up a 'JOHN 3-16' placard proves how spiritual you are. Maybe I am being a bit harsh, but I am sick of these professional wagons going around the pubs rattling the Maddy Fund box in your face. Half of them look like classic Joe Duffy caller ex-Alkies who neglected their own kids but are devoted to Maddy. It's like the hype has taken over and Maddy is filling in for Man U/Liverpool/Sunderland until the season restarts for a lot of muppets in this country.

Anyways, this is way off topic. Bohs were very good tonight. I thought it was an enjoyable match.

Child Hater.....

koh

[drinkfeckarse]

Who says they ran? They might've just upped and left as a coincidence. AFAIK the adult was finished and the child was half finished. Hardly unusual?

Macy did or at least mentioned the possibility of them running.


Thought the possible Belgian sighting the couple legged it when they spotted them calling the cops?

To which I said...


Didn't know that Macy. If true it adds weight to the theory that she is still alive. Why else would they run?

Just suggestion really, none of us know the exact facts of the sighting. Sounds to me though as if the cops were phoned after the fact otherwise they could've been there in minutes. If the couple did leg it I'm sure there would plenty of other witness because of the commotion and I'm sure there will be some sort of cctv in Belgium that could have helped track them down?

[Dodge]

Doesn't amtter anyway as they've done DNA tests on the glass the girl drank from and its not her

[Jerry The Saint]

I thought SKY mentioned a figure in the 90s yesterday. I thought it was quite strange the way they put it; something like "It's now day 96 of the Maddy McCann ordeal" or something. I loathe that channel.

I'd be rather more cynical - they know people are sick of the story, so they don't bother pushing it as hard.

Well if we're being cynical, the Simpsons Movie nailed the type of news coverage loved by Sky perfectly.


A crisis so serious it has it's own logo AND theme tune!:eek:

[First]

Woke this morning in Huntsville Alabama to the news that a 10 year old boy was missing and hadn't been seen in 14 hrs. As the reporter and his colleague were giving an update, the news came through on his earpiece that the child had been located. The look on the reporters face was like , ****e what now , what am I going to report on now, and as he stumbled across his words his colleague had to remind him that this was good news. To which the reporter replied "I suppose we can go and find out where he was", with a blank look on his mush. The only thing that I can think of is that this reporters mind has been scrambled by the heat, its 8.30am and it is already 96 degrees.

90% of reporters (not a factual statistic) are parasites feeding off other peoples misfortune.

I walked into Walmart last night and the first thing I see is the walls and notice boards plastered with photgraphs and details of kids ranging from babies to teenagers that are missing .

I been a parent can begin to know the hell that these parents and families have to live every minute of everday. I thank God everyday that my kids are safe .

[John83]

Well if we're being cynical, the Simpsons Movie nailed the type of news coverage loved by Sky perfectly.
Spoiler tags please, damnit!