View Full Version : Shels have been granted
don ramo
19/02/2007, 12:35 PM
id say dundalk should go up there were robbed last year waterford deserved to come down, but it wont matter cause you are not going to kick the campions out of the division, this is the FAI thye cant even sack staunton, and thats a no brainer
Réiteoir
19/02/2007, 12:45 PM
I've heard from sources this morning that it's going to be called as the following:
Shels to remain in the Premier
NO points deduction whatsoever
Shels awarded License to operate for the 2007 season
If this is how it does pan out - then I'm through with trying to sell and defend this league to colleagues / the ordinary fan
pineapple stu
19/02/2007, 12:49 PM
I suppose we can just take solace in the fact that Shels will get their comeuppance this season anyway, seeing as they've no players. The FAI must be happy with the approach of selling your ground to pay your debts as a perfectly rational business plan; either that or Ollie really has the FAI by the balls...
fanatic
19/02/2007, 12:49 PM
are the FAI likely to give an explanation of how they reach the outcome ?
Peadar
19/02/2007, 12:49 PM
Will Shels get a UEFA Licence though, that's the important question.
BohsPartisan
19/02/2007, 12:57 PM
This is a joke. Delaney Out!
How many people here would be willing to attend a protest, say Friday lunchtime outside the FAI HQ?
OneRedArmy
19/02/2007, 12:57 PM
Will Shels get a UEFA Licence though, that's the important question.If the Kilkenny deal goes through by March then they probably will as they will be debt free at that point.
Red&White Rover
19/02/2007, 1:08 PM
I've heard from sources this morning that it's going to be called as the following:
Shels to remain in the Premier
NO points deduction whatsoever
Shels awarded License to operate for the 2007 season
If this is how it does pan out - then I'm through with trying to sell and defend this league to colleagues / the ordinary fan
for Christ sake! this is such a joke it is unbelievable...:mad:
don ramo
19/02/2007, 1:10 PM
they wouldn't be the first team to sell assets to clear debts, and there more than entitled to the ground is worth E60 million they can clear debts and built a 20-30 thousand seater ground with whats left, abviously theyll go the bohs way and keep it to a respectable 10,000 with E40 mill left over, though i dont think they'll be challenging for anything this season our the year after id say they might just stay up by winning a playoff at the end of the season.
Ollie knows he ****
BohsPartisan
19/02/2007, 1:18 PM
and there more than entitled to the ground is worth E60 million they can clear debts and built a 20-30 thousand seater ground with whats left, abviously theyll go the bohs way and keep it to a respectable 10,000 with E40 mill left over
Lack of oxygene on Planet Cobh these days?
Peadar
19/02/2007, 1:21 PM
they wouldn't be the first team to sell assets to clear debts, and there more than entitled to the ground is worth E60 million they can clear debts and built a 20-30 thousand seater ground with whats left, abviously theyll go the bohs way and keep it to a respectable 10,000 with E40 mill left over, though i dont think they'll be challenging for anything this season our the year after id say they might just stay up by winning a playoff at the end of the season.
Ollie knows he ****
What planet have you been visiting for the last 12 months or are you actually from there? Anyone on earth would have realised by now that Tolka doesn't belong to Shels, they only hold the lease on it. They'll be entitled to some compensation if the ground is sold but they've spent most of that already.
End result, debts cleared but no money to build a new ground. No players, no manager, no fans.
SligoBrewer
19/02/2007, 1:24 PM
what about if we protested about the decision on saturday.
more people would be off work..
better amount of people coming from outside the capital..
charliesboots
19/02/2007, 1:30 PM
they wouldn't be the first team to sell assets to clear debts, and there more than entitled to the ground is worth E60 million they can clear debts and built a 20-30 thousand seater ground with whats left, abviously theyll go the bohs way and keep it to a respectable 10,000 with E40 mill left over, though i dont think they'll be challenging for anything this season our the year after id say they might just stay up by winning a playoff at the end of the season.
Ollie knows he ****
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
POTM???
This is a joke. Delaney Out!
How many people here would be willing to attend a protest, say Friday lunchtime outside the FAI HQ?
And then go on the lock until the Aberdeen game? Count me in!!
BohsPartisan
19/02/2007, 1:32 PM
what about if we protested about the decision on saturday.
more people would be off work..
better amount of people coming from outside the capital..
Would you think many would come from outside the capital anyway?
At least a lunchtime protest people would be in town anyway.
If we do have a protest the demands should be clear:
1. Propper implementation of licencing
2. following this; Shels sanctioned appropriately
3. Delaney out
BohsPartisan
19/02/2007, 1:33 PM
And then go on the lock until the Aberdeen game? Count me in!!
Haha exactly what I had in mind! :D
they wouldn't be the first team to sell assets to clear debts, and there more than entitled to the ground is worth E60 million they can clear debts and built a 20-30 thousand seater ground with whats left, abviously theyll go the bohs way and keep it to a respectable 10,000 with E40 mill left over, though i dont think they'll be challenging for anything this season our the year after id say they might just stay up by winning a playoff at the end of the season.
Ollie knows he ****
Do you have a brain?
dcfcsteve
19/02/2007, 1:36 PM
I'm liaising with a number of people from here and elsewhere about what to do about all of this.
PM me if interested. If we don't recognise you as a regular, though, you won't be included I'm afraid. Too many FAI lackies on here I'm afraid...
Meanwhile - it'd be wise to not develop any suggestions re action to take on a public forum like this.
Peadar
19/02/2007, 1:37 PM
And then go on the lock until the Aberdeen game? Count me in!!
Then you could march all the way from town to Dalyer, unchallenged!
That's the norm for games v Aberdeen, isn't it? :D
Peadar
19/02/2007, 1:40 PM
I'm liaising with a number of people from here and elsewhere about what to do about all of this.
Steve, if you're over on Friday, you can forget about this protest lark. We've been invited to a night out with a gang of women...
Lim till i die
19/02/2007, 1:42 PM
Lack of oxygene on Planet Cobh these days?
The air has always been that bit thicker around Queenstown harbour. Those sea mists are an absolute killer on the brain
Hence the vacant stares and random bouts of inbreeding
OneRedArmy
19/02/2007, 1:42 PM
We've been invited to a night out with a gang of women...The Irish football team?
Peadar
19/02/2007, 1:43 PM
The Irish football team?
We want to give ourselves a decent chance of scoring like... ;)
don ramo
19/02/2007, 2:04 PM
The air has always been that bit thicker around Queenstown harbour. Those sea mists are an absolute killer on the brain
Hence the vacant stares and random bouts of inbreeding
helps us beat ye lot, the english left years ago (by the way)( try a new joke please, that fresh air should help "should") but al least we dont be tearin each other apart like other parts fo the country:D
but you must let a team defend there title, if derry our drogs did win it next year you couldnt say there worthy, because they never were able to beat the champions, but i do think a points deduction should be given as some form of punishment, and sanctions
If we do have a protest the demands should be clear:
Yeah, Delaney Out. Licencing and the league, and so this whole close season debacle, are all his responsibility.
mypost
19/02/2007, 2:10 PM
I see....according to todays Indo...
I've heard from sources this morning...
:o
No decision on Shels' fate has been made public yet. Until it has, any "rumours", "sources", and banner headlines trying to pre-judge the outcome is just speculation.
The Man Himself
19/02/2007, 2:34 PM
I suspect Waterford United will halt the start of the league. I can see this going to court and rightly so this time for once. If Shels are allowed to play at all in the EL this season it would truly be a disgrace and a discredit to all the other teams.
was talking to a member of the waterford united mc and he said they are not to bothered by all this, they seem to be just going with the flow on this,
he informed me that gareth cronan has a squad of 24 players already and looking very sharp for the new season in the 1st division which he feels they can win no problem.
if shels are allowed play in the premier division this season it will be most likely that they will be relagated at the end of the season and waterford united look very strong to go straight back up (with a trophy and €50,000 better off(prize money):D
so one way or another shels are f*!@ed:D
drummerboy
19/02/2007, 2:44 PM
Mick Neville was at the Cherry Orchard V Skerries game yesterday, no doubt casting the eye over the likes of Philly Shephard, McNevin, Prenderville to name a few.
OneRedArmy
19/02/2007, 2:45 PM
:o
No decision on Shels' fate has been made public yet. Until it has, any "rumours", "sources", and banner headlines trying to pre-judge the outcome is just speculation.
Thanks.
For.
That.
By refuting speculation you do realise you are yourself creating additional speculation?
finnpark
19/02/2007, 2:57 PM
was talking to a member of the waterford united mc and he said they are not to bothered by all this, they seem to be just going with the flow on this,
he informed me that gareth cronan has a squad of 24 players already and looking very sharp for the new season in the 1st division which he feels they can win no problem.
if shels are allowed play in the premier division this season it will be most likely that they will be relagated at the end of the season and waterford united look very strong to go straight back up (with a trophy and €50,000 better off(prize money):D
so one way or another shels are f*!@ed:D
Dont be so sure of Waterford getting promotion. The 1st division is very unpredictable.
I think Finn Harps have as strong a team as they ever had and are going to go very very close this season. 5 years ago this Finn Harps squad would have been in top half of premier table. How things have changed.
fanatic
19/02/2007, 3:04 PM
are the FAI going to post the outcome at like 5.59pm and then all go home
so they dont have to answer questions ?
wot is keeping them ?
The Man Himself
19/02/2007, 3:08 PM
Dont be so sure of Waterford getting promotion. The 1st division is very unpredictable.
I think Finn Harps have as strong a team as they ever had and are going to go very very close this season. 5 years ago this Finn Harps squad would have been in top half of premier table. How things have changed.
waterford went to bray and pats over the last few weeks for pre season and brought a squad of 30 players to both matchs,
already half the under 21 team are bullin to get into the seinor squad,
this can only be good for the blues,
we might even loan out a few players to shels if there stuck:D
As far as I know no decision will be made public today which is a cop out.
Louth4sam
19/02/2007, 3:15 PM
I think waterford will finish forth. I think Dundalk, harps and athlone all have better squads.
As far as I know no decision will be made public today which is a cop out.
Worse than a cop out its a disgrace. If, say, Shels get denied the licence. Surely they'll get a week to appeal, then it won't be heard until the next available monday, then it'll be another coupld of days before a final decision is made. The league starts in less than a month
Disgrace if Shels get no punishment
There are only 2 possible scenarios:
- Shels submitted correct accounts. FAi don't have case to answer. Shels have to case to answer. Move on.
- Shels submitted false accounts. The FAI (Licencing Committee) did not notice this so someone needs to take responsibility. Shels need to sanctioned. Independent Auditor needs to answer questions.
Can anyone remind who is on the licencing board? What is its Remit?
You're probably right Pete- but there are other questions, especially regarding the payment of players. It seems like a bit of a joke that you only have to be up to date once a year for licensing, the rest of the time you can do what you want.
OneRedArmy
19/02/2007, 5:02 PM
There are only 2 possible scenarios:
- Shels submitted correct accounts. FAi don't have case to answer. Shels have to case to answer. Move on.
- Shels submitted false accounts. The FAI (Licencing Committee) did not notice this so someone needs to take responsibility. Shels need to sanctioned. Independent Auditor needs to answer questions.
Can anyone remind who is on the licencing board? What is its Remit?One comment Pete. If Shels met the Licensing standards at Nov 2006 then it means the Licensing standards are a joke, given what we now know about Shels financial health.
There is no get out for the FAI here. Either way they are culpable.
One comment Pete. If Shels met the Licensing standards at Nov 2006 then it means the Licensing standards are a joke, given what we now know about Shels financial health.
There is no get out for the FAI here. Either way they are culpable.
Yes. Its Shels met the standard they cannot be punished therefore its the FAIs fault. The eL was never responsible for licencing. I suppose this compounded by Fran Gavins response on RTE that they implemented licencing.
Clearly the FAI thought that they did well to create a licencing process & have never looked at whether the implementation of that system was correct. Its time to stop fudging & in true FAi style point the finger.
:rolleyes:
passerrby
19/02/2007, 5:05 PM
only summising but i think first instance committee tonight and there dicision will go before fai board tomorrow for ratification.and at some stage shels will have to be informed before we all learn the outcome.so all in all we should know about ten minutes before kickoff who we will be playing.
Réiteoir
19/02/2007, 5:14 PM
nah - they'll wait until 10 minutes into Shels first game in the Premier this season - then an FAI lackey will walk out onto the pitch and tell whichever referee is on the game to abandon it and bring the players off.
The Man Himself
19/02/2007, 5:16 PM
They said that the announcement was going to be made on monday, how come limerick didnt get all the time that shels are getting,
i bet if sligo, longford or bray didnt pay their players last season they would have been kicked out of the league long a go.
rovers were docked 9 points 2 seasons ago for a petty little reason compaired to the **** that shels are in and it cost them relagation.
i say boot shels out of the league altogether.
Tis-smeee
19/02/2007, 5:16 PM
5 years ago this Finn Harps squad would have been in top half of premier table.
Harps nowhere near the top half of the premier for about ten years
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